Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Marco Martin
On Saturday 17 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: And here is the attachment pretty good. maye there could still be a little bit of shading more. like a ight gradient in the bottom part of the marble too and have a 1 pixel light border inside the dark border? just toughts ... i hate gmail's web

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Marco Martin
On Saturday 17 July 2010, Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: On Tuesday 13 July 2010 10:11:46 Ivan Čukić wrote: To repeat Chani's question - do you have any idea how to make the more prominent? Tooltips appearing and suggesting to the user the new features? (with the button don't show this again)

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Ivan Čukić
maye there could still be a little bit of shading more. like a ight gradient in the bottom part of the marble too and have a 1 pixel light border inside the dark border? The theme can be easily changed. I'll probably leave it up to Nuno :) Cheerio -- While you were hanging yourself on

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Ivan Čukić
This is just an idea that came to me looking at some mobile GUIs (or was it websites?), but I think that could really work in order to have the common user find out our best features. What do you think? problems with those things is that users tend to find this kind of things abboying

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 19 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: maye there could still be a little bit of shading more. like a ight gradient in the bottom part of the marble too and have a 1 pixel light border inside the dark border? The theme can be easily changed. I'll probably leave it up to Nuno :)

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Chani
On July 19, 2010 01:55:22 Ivan Čukić wrote: This is just an idea that came to me looking at some mobile GUIs (or was it websites?), but I think that could really work in order to have the common user find out our best features. What do you think? problems with those things is that

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Ivan Čukić
speaking of which... *coughs* we still don't have a Welcome Plasmoid, do we? Yep :) Well, this would be nice to have in the welcome plasmoid, but it would be a *huge* thing to implement. -- While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words Dying to believe in what you heard I was

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-19 Thread Chani
On July 19, 2010 11:19:31 Ivan Čukić wrote: speaking of which... *coughs* we still don't have a Welcome Plasmoid, do we? Yep :) Well, this would be nice to have in the welcome plasmoid, but it would be a *huge* thing to implement. gotta start somewhere...

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-17 Thread Riccardo Iaconelli
On Monday 12 July 2010 13:21:52 Marco Martin wrote: i basically agree on all points, as probably i already said, the way i would like more is: +1, and then a little bit more! :) -Riccardo -- Pace Peace Paix Paz Frieden Pax Pokój Friður Fred Béke 和平 Hasiti Lapé Hetep Malu Mир Wolakota

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-17 Thread Riccardo Iaconelli
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 10:11:46 Ivan Čukić wrote: To repeat Chani's question - do you have any idea how to make the more prominent? Tooltips appearing and suggesting to the user the new features? (with the button don't show this again) I was thinking of a simple, black-ish, transparent

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-17 Thread Ivan Čukić
A small update: - KIdenticonGenerator can now create QIcons as well as QPixmaps - More states - all QIcon::Modes supported - Test applet - Rather pretty :) (maybe kdegames would like pretty marbles like this :) ) - in plasma's playground under libs (Chani will kill me for this) Todo: -

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-13 Thread Ivan Čukić
Yeah, I could do that, but while I'm not afraid of reading blogs, typical users won't do that. It'd be really great if by SC 4.6 it was easily I completely agree. For 4.5 it was not the case since we only scratched the surface. discoverable for common users (and advanced users alike) what

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-13 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 07:34:35 Chani wrote: how would you suggest that be done? Ask Celeste to come up with something great :-) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
now, what if $plasmoid wants to use the icon (eg, activity bar)? what if $application wants to use the icon (eg. when associating something with an activity)? it'd be nice if I could see the icons when assigning windows to activities, but I dunno if that'd be possible with autogenerated

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns represent activities in an iconic way? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns represent activities in an iconic way? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread nuno pinheiro
On Monday 12 July 2010 10:35:44 Markus Slopianka wrote: Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns represent activities in an iconic way? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, nuno pinheiro wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 10:35:44 Markus Slopianka wrote: Aren't icons supposed to be meaningful? How do those random patterns represent activities in an iconic way? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent that activity without user intervention? Why would Activities be created without user intervention? ___ Plasma-devel mailing

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough to make people not wanting to use those Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actually are. Maybe I'm uninformed, but I see them as virtual desktops with

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough to make people not wanting to use those Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actually are. Maybe

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent that activity without user intervention? Why would Activities be created without user intervention? not creation of

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Alessandro Diaferia
Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto: On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent that activity without user intervention? Why would Activities be created

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote: Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto: On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: or do you have a better idea to -magically- find an image that represent that activity

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread nuno pinheiro
On Monday 12 July 2010 11:53:20 Marco Martin wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough to make people not wanting to use those Maybe it should be

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
0. Not going to discuss about the reasoning behind identicons again. 1. Activities are no more only /desktop-setups-group-of-widgets/ so making thumbnails can be counter-productive - you can keep the desktop empty in all activities and still want to use other activity-related features. Or if you

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
me realy does not care much as long as we have something that looks pretty and is easy to recognize by the user, i proposed to do those icons because wen I saw how our Chani chose random icons to represent them, i had my typical your icons look soo ugly used like that feeling...  so I proposed

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: 0. Not going to discuss about the reasoning behind identicons again. 1. Activities are no more only /desktop-setups-group-of-widgets/ so making thumbnails can be counter-productive - you can keep the desktop empty in all activities and still want to

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Alessandro Diaferia
Il 12/07/2010 13:09, Ivan Čukić ha scritto: 0. Not going to discuss about the reasoning behind identicons again. 1. Activities are no more only /desktop-setups-group-of-widgets/ so making thumbnails can be counter-productive - you can keep the desktop empty in all activities and still want

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
-in the activity configuration, there would be something that looks like a combobox to chose icons, that shows just the set of 20 good ones or an other... option Yeah, we'll need to discuss this one a bit more - whether it is good (usability-wise) to make a separate UI for icon choosing. Maybe

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Monday 12 July 2010 12:58:23 Alessandro Diaferia wrote: Well, I don't completely see the point of avoiding any type of configuration to the user. IMO, when creating a new activity, the user might be prompted to choose among a set of default activities. Those activities might already have a

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Chani
On Monday, July 12, 2010 03:04:42 am Markus Slopianka wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough to make people not wanting to use those Maybe it should be easily discoverable what Activities actually

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Chani
On Monday, July 12, 2010 04:09:44 am Marco Martin wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010, Alessandro Diaferia wrote: Il 12/07/2010 12:54, Marco Martin ha scritto: On Monday 12 July 2010, Markus Slopianka wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 11:47:51 Marco Martin wrote: or do you have a better idea

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 July 2010, Chani wrote: On Monday, July 12, 2010 03:04:42 am Markus Slopianka wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 11:55:50 Marco Martin wrote: unfortunately, i see that having something already done is often enough to make people not wanting to use those Maybe it should be

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Chani
On Monday, July 12, 2010 04:48:39 am Ivan Čukić wrote: -in the activity configuration, there would be something that looks like a combobox to chose icons, that shows just the set of 20 good ones or an other... option Yeah, we'll need to discuss this one a bit more - whether it is good

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Ivan Čukić
separate UI? wuh? 1 - menu of icons and a 'more...' option 2 - standard icon chooser when 'more...' is clicked I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's not so bad to leave it to the user. After all, we don't try to auto-name the activity for them, new activities currently start at unnamed... One

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Monday 12 July 2010 23:40:42 Chani wrote: if you want details, go read my blog posts on activities :) http://chani.wordpress.com/?s=activities Yeah, I could do that, but while I'm not afraid of reading blogs, typical users won't do that. It'd be really great if by SC 4.6 it was easily

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-12 Thread Chani
On July 12, 2010 16:27:40 Markus Slopianka wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 23:40:42 Chani wrote: if you want details, go read my blog posts on activities :) http://chani.wordpress.com/?s=activities Yeah, I could do that, but while I'm not afraid of reading blogs, typical users won't do

Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-11 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi all, At aKademy, Nuno proposed a bit different design for identicons used for plasma activities. 1. The identicons should be showed inside a bubble with background and an overlay. 2. He will make some default icons for users that want to choose specific ones instead of the automatically

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-11 Thread Chani
On Sunday, July 11, 2010 03:20:39 pm Ivan Čukić wrote: Hi all, At aKademy, Nuno proposed a bit different design for identicons used for plasma activities. 1. The identicons should be showed inside a bubble with background and an overlay. they look pretty :) now, what if $plasmoid wants

Re: Activity identicons v 1.99 :) (post-akademy)

2010-07-11 Thread todd rme
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Ivan Čukić ivan.cu...@kde.org wrote: 2. We need a list of common activities for Nuno to make icons for. Ideas? We should get at least 20 :) At the very least the same categories found in the Application Launcher could be used, with the added advantage that they