D11558: Don't show cache memory in systemloadviewer bars

2018-04-10 Thread David Edmundson
davidedmundson added a comment. We're at an impasse then. I do like and respect having your feedback, but I'm not particularly swayed. It leaves this one super tiny summary applet showing more "detailed/noisy" information than the full on ksysguard application, which doesn't make

D11558: Don't show cache memory in systemloadviewer bars

2018-03-22 Thread Henrik Fehlauer
rkflx added a comment. In D11558#231516 , @davidedmundson wrote: > I'm not sure we're talking about the same place. This is the little overview applet, systemloadviewer > > F5762570: Screenshot_20180322_115217.png

D11558: Don't show cache memory in systemloadviewer bars

2018-03-22 Thread David Edmundson
davidedmundson added a comment. > It's a power user tool anyway, I'm not sure we're talking about the same place. This is the little overview applet, systemloadviewer F5762570: Screenshot_20180322_115217.png KSysguard is the power tool.

D11558: Don't show cache memory in systemloadviewer bars

2018-03-22 Thread Henrik Fehlauer
rkflx added a comment. In a sense the cache tells me about aggregated memory pressure from the past (because the cache will only slowly fill up again after it was squeezed), and the unused memory is a metrics showing the current memory pressure. I find it useful, and apparently when it

D11558: Don't show cache memory in systemloadviewer bars

2018-03-22 Thread David Edmundson
davidedmundson added a comment. Unless you know how much of that cache was actually read back, you have absolutely no knowledge of whether the cache was utilised properly or not. In your example seeing the cache value stay "good" is giving you the same result as seeing the free memory

D11558: Don't show cache memory in systemloadviewer bars

2018-03-21 Thread Henrik Fehlauer
rkflx added a comment. In D11558#231153 , @davidedmundson wrote: > > Quickly seeing the difference between "free" and "cached" can be quite useful. > > Useful for what? For a start, there's a problem with a system (and thus

D11558: Don't show cache memory in systemloadviewer bars

2018-03-21 Thread David Edmundson
davidedmundson added a comment. > Quickly seeing the difference between "free" and "cached" can be quite useful. Useful for what? REPOSITORY R114 Plasma Addons REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D11558 To: davidedmundson, #plasma Cc: rkflx, plasma-devel, ZrenBot,

D11558: Don't show cache memory in systemloadviewer bars

2018-03-21 Thread Henrik Fehlauer
rkflx added a comment. > It's a completely useless value to know vs how much memory is free. FWIW, I find it's a useful information to assess the state of a system: It grows with time after a reboot, and it shows nicely how memory intensive processes eventually take a toll on the cache

D11558: Don't show cache memory in systemloadviewer bars

2018-03-21 Thread David Edmundson
davidedmundson created this revision. davidedmundson added a reviewer: Plasma. Restricted Application added a project: Plasma. Restricted Application added a subscriber: plasma-devel. davidedmundson requested review of this revision. REVISION SUMMARY It's a completely useless value to know vs