Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-12 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 03:56:24 Lucas Murray wrote: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Jud Craft wrote: > > Well, keep in mind, Plasma was not originally intended to be > > cross-platform.  It was a happy accident of being not-tied-as-tightly > > to Kwin and X as the developers hoped. > > B

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-11 Thread Jud Craft
I apologize. Still getting used to mailing lists. On 2/11/09, Lubos Lunak wrote: > On Tuesday 10 of February 2009, Jud Craft wrote: >> It doesn't help that the transitioning-between-Activities bears little >> distinction from transitioning between workspaces/virtual desktops. >> It's sometimes

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-11 Thread Lubos Lunak
On Tuesday 10 of February 2009, Jud Craft wrote: > It doesn't help that the transitioning-between-Activities bears little > distinction from transitioning between workspaces/virtual desktops. > It's sometimes hard for the user to figure out exactly what the big > deal is. Personally, I rationaliz

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-11 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Lucas Murray wrote: > - Activities are assigned to desktops. i'm in a 2-day meeting right now and really don't have the time/energy to address this right now. i'll do so once i'm back home. suffice it to say, however, that this thread simply shows a complete lack of

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-10 Thread Lucas Murray
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Jud Craft wrote: > On 2/10/09, Lucas Murray wrote: >> For the proposal to work in every situation there will need to be two >> desktop grid/workspace managers: One built into KWin so it can do all >> the fancy stuff and one built into Plasma so it can be used >>

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-10 Thread Lucas Murray
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Jud Craft wrote: > Well, keep in mind, Plasma was not originally intended to be > cross-platform. It was a happy accident of being not-tied-as-tightly > to Kwin and X as the developers hoped. But it would still be a regression so we can't really do that. > It ma

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-10 Thread Lucas Murray
2009/2/11 Alexis Ménard : > > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Lucas Murray > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Jud Craft wrote: >> > It is the height of audacity to come out of the woodwork and suggest >> > design ideas for a system that I do not create myself. Nevertheless, >> >

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-10 Thread Jud Craft
Well, keep in mind, Plasma was not originally intended to be cross-platform. It was a happy accident of being not-tied-as-tightly to Kwin and X as the developers hoped. It may be possible to fall back on the old 2D ZUI when in Windows, for example. But the original purpose of Plasma was to be th

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-10 Thread Alexis Ménard
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Lucas Murray wrote: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Jud Craft wrote: > > It is the height of audacity to come out of the woodwork and suggest > > design ideas for a system that I do not create myself. Nevertheless, > > you might actually like some of these. >

Re: Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-10 Thread Lucas Murray
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Jud Craft wrote: > It is the height of audacity to come out of the woodwork and suggest > design ideas for a system that I do not create myself. Nevertheless, > you might actually like some of these. > > I promise it will be entertaining. Broken into two section

Plasma/Kwin cooperation to achieve efficacy of Activites spatial metaphors

2009-02-10 Thread Jud Craft
It is the height of audacity to come out of the woodwork and suggest design ideas for a system that I do not create myself. Nevertheless, you might actually like some of these. I promise it will be entertaining. Broken into two sections, A and B. Also long. Have a great day! A. Effective Co