Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, August 18, 2011 19:20:08 Martin Gräßlin wrote: just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the Alt+F3 menu? That menu is really hard to use, because it's too long, yes. Also the submenus aren't great, because they require quite some patience to navigate,

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Christoph Feck
On Friday 19 August 2011 10:08:40 Sebastian Kügler wrote: a titlebar wheelevent, even if a bit hidden, is way more ergonomic. Not every input device has a wheel. My stylus has all three mouse buttons, but no wheel. If you remove the menu entries, at least make sure you have global shortcuts

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:19:24 +0200 schrieb Christoph Feck christ...@maxiom.de: If you remove the menu entries, at least make sure you have global shortcuts for changing transparency quickly (+/- by 20%, set to opaque), so that I can assign gestures to those operations. Leaving the generally

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Sexta, 19 de Agosto de 2011 01:15:29 David você escreveu: I don't know why do you want to break every single thing. Even the most little ones. Is converting user's experience into a nightmare your passion? Nope but we tend to abuse on the amount of things we present to a user at a glance,

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, August 18, 2011 18:51:30 Eric Mesa wrote: I use it daily for my Konversation window can you set a window rule instead and achieve the same thing? -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday, August 19, 2011 02:15:29 David wrote: I don't know why do you want to break every single thing. Even the most little ones. Is converting user's experience into a nightmareyour passion? i won't repeat what Martin already said, though what he said is 100% correct. i just want to add

RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi all, just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the Alt+F3 menu? Reasons against the menu: * menu in tasks applet does not provide the opacity (missing consistency) * Opacity is not really useful as both foreground and background are modified (hard to read) and no blur

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:20:08 +0200 schrieb Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org: Hi all, just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the Alt+F3 menu? I think it's just a leftover from the time when kwin used to control kcompmgr. I'd say the entire menu just is a mess. Most

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Quinta, 18 de Agosto de 2011 18:20:08 Martin Gräßlin você escreveu: Hi all, just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the Alt+F3 menu? kill it die die :) Reasons against the menu: * menu in tasks applet does not provide the opacity (missing consistency) * Opacity

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Eric Mesa
Personally I don't see a good reason for having the opacity menu at all and I found it kind of techy (look what we can do: isn't that awesome? Translucent Windows!). So convince me to not remove it :-) Cheers Martin I use it daily for my Konversation window - br Eric

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread David
I don't know why do you want to break every single thing. Even the most little ones. Is converting user's experience into a nightmare your passion? -- Cheers, David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - I don't know why do you want to break every single thing. Even the most little ones. Would you like to elaborate how this breaks anything? Would you please explain why you consider the menu (not the functionality) so important? Please note that I asked

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Donnerstag 18 August 2011 19:20:08 Martin Gräßlin wrote: Hi all, just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the Alt+F3 menu? Don't know if you need it, I use it regularly. Wouldn't mind moving it into the Advanced sub-menu, though.