Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-05-07 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, May 5, 2012 09:37:16 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Friday 04 May 2012 23:02:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > * combine present windows with application launching (e.g. SAL, Kickoff > > > or > > > KRunner) > > > > wrong. we just move this into kwin. no need to touch the shell. after all, > >

Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-05-05 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 05 May 2012 14:15:02 Marco Martin wrote: > but having the shell and windowmanager merged in one process also gives > strong side effects, as noted from stability to speed. a cpu intensive task > by the shell can slow down the whole window namager (and i would love the > window manager h

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-05-05 Thread Marco Martin
On this issue i must admit i still don't have a definite opinion, so what follows are some toughts on random directions on the topic. I see in both approaches solutions to many problems and cause of a new set. having worked on the plasma active window strip in various incarnations makes me feel

Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-05-05 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 04 May 2012 23:02:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, April 26, 2012 14:52:55 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > If we look around we see that both GNOME Shell and Unity went for an > > i will remind you that you wrote this in a few years and we can see how each > has done. ;) Please do so. I'

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-05-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 14:52:55 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > If we look around we see that both GNOME Shell and Unity went for an i will remind you that you wrote this in a few years and we can see how each has done. ;) keep in mind that one of Microsoft's great progressions with windows was sepa

Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 26 April 2012 12:41:32 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Monday, April 23, 2012 17:42:42 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > My expectation from the sprint is that we will figure out a new > > interaction > > of the shell and windowing system which is not possible at the moment. We > > have pretty much

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, April 23, 2012 17:40:48 Alex Fiestas wrote: > That doesn't mean that I won't work on libplasma2 and QML effort porting for > the greater good, but they are not my responsability just right now, they > will be int he future (I guess). i think some may have the concern that if the meeting

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, April 23, 2012 12:21:17 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Those cannot be dismissed as "technology before vision" because we already > have identified these things as crucial to move on with our vision. Now it's this is, imo, the crux of the matter: "our vision" many of the people who will be

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-26 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, April 23, 2012 17:42:42 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > My expectation from the sprint is that we will figure out a new interaction > of the shell and windowing system which is not possible at the moment. We > have pretty much reached what's possible with Plasma tells KWin what to do. > But turn

Re: Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-23 Thread Alex Fiestas
+1 to what Martin Gräßlin said though in my case I want to see the current stuff ported to QML so we can support the current shell in the future, it has a lot of advantages I'd like to keep. On Monday, April 23, 2012 05:42:42 PM Martin Gräßlin wrote: > My expectation from the sprint is that we w

Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-23 Thread Dario Freddi
Il 23 aprile 2012 17:42, Martin Gräßlin ha scritto: > On Monday 23 April 2012 13:03:56 Marco Martin wrote: >> On Monday 23 April 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: >> > Or put simply: Homework first. >> > >> > Now if the sprint would be: let's take two days to reflect on the current >> > state and defi

Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-23 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Monday, April 23, 2012 02:33:45 PM Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Addressing these two concerns individually: > > On Friday, April 20, 2012 15:19:14 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > 1-Everybody joings libplasma2 development, coordination is a mess, lot of > > new people working in old code etc, not ideal. >

Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 23 April 2012 13:03:56 Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 23 April 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Or put simply: Homework first. > > > > Now if the sprint would be: let's take two days to reflect on the current > > state and define where we want to go, and then take 5 days to sit down and

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-23 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Addressing these two concerns individually: On Friday, April 20, 2012 15:19:14 Alex Fiestas wrote: > 1-Everybody joings libplasma2 development, coordination is a mess, lot of > new people working in old code etc, not ideal. I don't see why this would happen, we just need to coordinate and talk t

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-23 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 23 April 2012, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Or put simply: Homework first. > > Now if the sprint would be: let's take two days to reflect on the current > state and define where we want to go, and then take 5 days to sit down and > clear the road for getting there, that would be an approach

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-23 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Friday, April 20, 2012 15:39:02 Daker Fernandes Pinheiro wrote: > I also agree that the vision must be over the limitations, specially > when the concern is how to prioritize the development. In principle, basing development of technology onto a vision is the correct approach. There's a big b

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-20 Thread Daker Fernandes Pinheiro
On 04/20/2012 11:33 AM, Dario Freddi wrote: Il 20 aprile 2012 15:40, Martin Gräßlin ha scritto: On Friday 20 April 2012 15:19:14 Alex Fiestas wrote: On Friday, April 20, 2012 02:20:58 PM Marco Martin wrote: I expressed my concerns before, i'll do it again: i think this is really not the time

Re: Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-20 Thread Dario Freddi
Il 20 aprile 2012 15:40, Martin Gräßlin ha scritto: > On Friday 20 April 2012 15:19:14 Alex Fiestas wrote: >> On Friday, April 20, 2012 02:20:58 PM Marco Martin wrote: >> > I expressed my concerns before, i'll do it again: i think this is really >> > not the time to do it, any good intention and v

Re: Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-20 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 20 April 2012 15:19:14 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Friday, April 20, 2012 02:20:58 PM Marco Martin wrote: > > I expressed my concerns before, i'll do it again: i think this is really > > not the time to do it, any good intention and vision is not much use if > > there is not the technical fo

Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-20 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Friday, April 20, 2012 02:20:58 PM Marco Martin wrote: > I expressed my concerns before, i'll do it again: i think this is really not > the time to do it, any good intention and vision is not much use if there > is not the technical foundation being layd down, and at the moment there > isn't. i

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-20 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 19 April 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > Hi there ! > > It is official, The vision sprint is going to take place in Pineda de Mar > (Barcelona) from 11 Jun to 18 Jun ! > > Just as a reminder, we will * NOT * do any programing in there, the sprint > is to create a Vision and to plan the wo

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-19 Thread Ivan Cukic
On Thursday, 19. April 2012. 12.15.42 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Thursday, April 19, 2012 08:52:53 AM Ivan Čukić wrote: > > It needs live video feeds. Some of us would like to chime in while > > unable to go to Barcelona for the meeting. > > Dunno if we will be able to do that :/ but I we will try !

Re: Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-19 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Thursday, April 19, 2012 08:52:53 AM Ivan Čukić wrote: > It needs live video feeds. Some of us would like to chime in while > unable to go to Barcelona for the meeting. Dunno if we will be able to do that :/ but I we will try ! at least we can do voice + irc (something that is done in UDS) that

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-19 Thread Dario Freddi
Il 19 aprile 2012 08:52, Ivan Čukić ha scritto: > It needs live video feeds. Some of us would like to chime in while > unable to go to Barcelona for the meeting. That's indeed a good idea, which makes me thing about something which in last Solid sprint worked out quite well. What about doing some

Re: Next Iteration Sprint, confirmed !

2012-04-18 Thread Ivan Čukić
It needs live video feeds. Some of us would like to chime in while unable to go to Barcelona for the meeting. Cheerio! ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel