Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-09 Thread Alex Fiestas
Too bad :/ We will have plenty webcams and micro's to do online stuff, if the gods of the internetz allow us we should have no problem on doing all kinds of online activities. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailma

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-09 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
Hi there! Just got back home from 2 weeks on the move, and really wont be able to attend the meeting for the days I planed But I would really like to participate in on-line meetings and discussions we can extend over on academy. Sorry but its just to much travel for one month... ___

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread Aleix Pol
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Friday, June 08, 2012 05:58:46 PM Marco Martin wrote: >> in there any shopping mall nearby? (or not so nearby but that can be done >> while we're there) > > There is, but I don't think we will find Yarns there, so I will try to buy > that to

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Fiestas
We don't do weird plug though :p I have conversors I can bring if you don't have one ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread David Edmundson
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > On Friday 08 June 2012 18:22:51 Alex Fiestas wrote: >> On Friday, June 08, 2012 05:41:25 PM Kevin Ottens wrote: >> >  - A dozen white boxes (ideally roughly the cereal box size, can be >> >  slightly >> > >> > bigger >> >> I doub't we can find

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Friday 08 June 2012 18:22:51 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Friday, June 08, 2012 05:41:25 PM Kevin Ottens wrote: > > - A dozen white boxes (ideally roughly the cereal box size, can be > > slightly > > > > bigger > > I doub't we can find this easily, anybody can bring those? I have been told > they

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Friday 08 June 2012 17:50:57 Alex Fiestas wrote: > We already went shopping for the stuff you asked before (yesterday) :/ My apologies again for the late request. Regards. -- Kévin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net KDAB - proud patron of KDE, http://www.kdab.com signature.asc Description: Th

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Friday, June 08, 2012 05:41:25 PM Kevin Ottens wrote: > - A dozen white boxes (ideally roughly the cereal box size, can be slightly > bigger I doub't we can find this easily, anybody can bring those? I have been told they are sold in ikea for example. This we can buy at a carrefour near the v

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Friday, June 08, 2012 05:58:46 PM Marco Martin wrote: > in there any shopping mall nearby? (or not so nearby but that can be done > while we're there) There is, but I don't think we will find Yarns there, so I will try to buy that today. We will go to that mall to buy all the rest, including

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 08 June 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > We already went shopping for the stuff you asked before (yesterday) :/ and > I have all my weekend busy with family stuff I can't skip. > > Maybe we can arrange to somebody to take care of this. in there any shopping mall nearby? (or not so nearby but

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Fiestas
We already went shopping for the stuff you asked before (yesterday) :/ and I have all my weekend busy with family stuff I can't skip. Maybe we can arrange to somebody to take care of this. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-06-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Friday 11 May 2012 23:23:29 Kevin Ottens wrote: > On Friday 11 May 2012 22:19:31 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > When I come back from SFO I will start together with Aleix the arragements > > for the sprint, fromm the top of my head: > > > > -Whiteboards > > -Projectors > > -Food > > -Car > > -W

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, David Edmundson wrote: > > Ideas? > > opinions? > > We could do with a wiki page with a basic list of possible agenda > items (starting with this list). > This email is just going to get drowned out in the large volume of > other traffic in this thread, which is a million

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
It sounds good, maybe we should start a new thread since this got contaminated with offtopic (sorry for that :( ) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread David Edmundson
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: >> On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:54:16 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> > there was something started quite some time ago by .. i forget who? .. > here: >> According to the history of the page, by you.

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 03:04:04 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 14:48:58 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > We need then something like active where we can put all visions > > (workspace, > > applications, hardware support...) and create a more unified experience. > > i agree ... an

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 15:05:03 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:04:13 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > an answer to "turn my computer off" is not "manage applications". > > Not a valid example, I never turn off my computer (suspend) and even if I > did I turn off the computer o

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 15:06:58 Marco Martin wrote: > Ideas? love it. i bet this will bring high quality, big pay-off results at the sprint if employed ... -- Aaron J. Seigo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:04:13 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > an answer to "finding alex's email" is not "manage applications". Good point. > an answer to "turn my computer off" is not "manage applications". Not a valid example, I never turn off my computer (suspend) and even if I did I turn off

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:54:16 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > there was something started quite some time ago by .. i forget who? .. here: > According to the history of the page, by you. > > > http://community.kde.org/Plasma/TheWaysOfThePlasm

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 14:51:17 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:44:26 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > well as Solid (hardware integration) > > > > separate email for a separate topic: frameworks and the workspace >

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 14:48:58 Alex Fiestas wrote: > We need then something like active where we can put all visions (workspace, > applications, hardware support...) and create a more unified experience. i agree ... and, btw, i'm stupidly excited that we're actually at a point where we can e

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 14:22:40 Alex Fiestas wrote: > If for understanding our vision we have to read all that then it is not a > good vision imho. i offered a short paragraph that describes the overall vision we've had to date in this thread. let me try again: "create an elegant and organic

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:44:26 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > well as Solid (hardware integration) > > separate email for a separate topic: frameworks and the workspace > definition. > :) > > Solid is not part of the workspace Solid ==

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:20:21 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > So, what is the workspace for you? > > the components that take care of supporting the working area of the computer > and practices of the person using the system. these tasks

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > > scalable: mostly referring to the available space so screen size (or just > > containment size, applets in panels vs desktop) > > we started with the formfactor concept and gone forward with the device > > specific qml files for plasmoids (expe

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:54:16 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > there was something started quite some time ago by .. i forget who? .. here: According to the history of the page, by you. > http://community.kde.org/Plasma/TheWaysOfThePlasma > > there are other bits spread around the wiki ther

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:51:16 PM Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 09:49:22 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:24:56 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote:

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > well as Solid (hardware integration) separate email for a separate topic: frameworks and the workspace definition. :) Solid is not part of the workspace. neither is libplasma. they are frameworks that can and are used by applications tha

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > So, what is the workspace for you? the components that take care of supporting the working area of the computer and practices of the person using the system. these tasks include: * user session start / stop / switch * power management * a

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:50:45 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:02:34 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:34:47 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > Plasma workspace should be excellent on launching, switching and getting > > > applications and it shouldn't bothe

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 09:49:22 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:24:56 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote: > > > > Have you been aware of this vision? > > > > > > N

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 09:49:22 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:24:56 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote: > > > > Have you been aware of this vision? > > > > > > No. > > >

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:02:34 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:34:47 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > Plasma workspace should be excellent on launching, switching and getting > > applications and it shouldn't bother the user while using those. > > i think it is a fine (start t

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:34:47 Alex Fiestas wrote: > Plasma workspace should be excellent on launching, switching and getting > applications and it shouldn't bother the user while using those. i think it is a fine (start to a) functional goal to reach for, in that it approaches a specific u

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote: > > Have you been aware of this vision? > > No. > > > If no: looking back would it have been helpful for your work if you had > > known it (and how)? > > No (I don't see how to apply it on Bl

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:24:56 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote: > > Have you been aware of this vision? > > No. > > > If no: looking back would it have been helpful for your work if you had > > known it (and how)? > > No (I don't see how to apply i

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-15 Thread Alex Fiestas
This would be my vision: Plasma workspace should be excellent on launching, switching and getting applications and it shouldn't bother the user while using those. For the users that need it, the workspace should offer a way of organazing the different tasks performed on it (work, entertainment,

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-15 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote: > Have you been aware of this vision? No. > If no: looking back would it have been helpful for your work if you had > known it (and how)? No (I don't see how to apply it on Bluedevil / RandR / Kamoso). > Is it too general / just right / too

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-15 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Terça, 15 de Maio de 2012 12:14:23 Aaron J. Seigo escreveu: > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 Björn Balazs wrote: > > Have you been aware of this vision? > > this was actually rather well laid out and gone over and over and over in > the first probably 2 years of the project. it's probably bee

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-15 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 Björn Balazs wrote: > Have you been aware of this vision? this was actually rather well laid out and gone over and over and over in the first probably 2 years of the project. it's probably been the last 2 in which this has been not a topic of conversation and thos

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-15 Thread Björn Balazs
Am Dienstag, 15. Mai 2012, 08:50:16 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > for those who aren't aware of the current vision[1], it's pretty simple: > > today people have huge numbers of files, devices, people they know, network > services they use; and few use their computer (laptop / desktop) for just > one p

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, May 14, 2012 16:52:40 Björn Balazs wrote: > there have been some doubts about technical issues that could come along > with creating the "vision"... personally, i'd really appreciate it if the current vision was kept. going to the moon and creating a single-finger-naviable-massive-stora

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-14 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Terça, 15 de Maio de 2012 00:28:37 Martin Klapetek escreveu: OK I need to talk about th elefant in the room Soo I realy have no clear Vision for how the kde next desktop sjhould look like and bheave and im not heven sure just one stupid nuno is able to come up with that (at least I wish

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-14 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Björn Balazs wrote: > Hi all, > > there have been some doubts about technical issues that could come along > with > creating the "vision"... > > So I thought, I might just write down some thoughts of what I think a good > vision is about. To start with here is a v

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-14 Thread Björn Balazs
Hi all, there have been some doubts about technical issues that could come along with creating the "vision"... So I thought, I might just write down some thoughts of what I think a good vision is about. To start with here is a vision I think is a good one: "I believe that this nation should co

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Saturday 12 May 2012 01:27:24 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > On Friday, May 11, 2012 11:23:29 PM Kevin Ottens wrote: > > Would it be possible to also add to the list: > > - Markers both for the whiteboards and black ones for paper > > - A shitload of sticky notes in different sizes and colors > > - Qu

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Friday, May 11, 2012 11:23:29 PM Kevin Ottens wrote: > Would it be possible to also add to the list: > - Markers both for the whiteboards and black ones for paper > - A shitload of sticky notes in different sizes and colors > - Quite some Blu-Tack, Patafix or equivalent[*] Those for sure >

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Friday 11 May 2012 22:19:31 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > When I come back from SFO I will start together with Aleix the arragements > for the sprint, fromm the top of my head: > > -Whiteboards > -Projectors > -Food > -Car > -Write how to get there Would it be possible to also add to the list: - Marke

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Àlex Fiestas
When I come back from SFO I will start together with Aleix the arragements for the sprint, fromm the top of my head: -Whiteboards -Projectors -Food -Car -Write how to get there So I'm going to add to that list: -Webcam, Microphone. We will have "wired" internet connection so it should be stable

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Friday, May 11, 2012 09:55:30 AM Marco Martin wrote: > then whatever the results are is something that we can walk trough the > implementation of it, what's doable, not so much, what will require > changes in the platform and so on (at akademy?) Indeed, Akademy is close enough to delay some disc

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le vendredi 11 mai 2012 09:20:27 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : > On Thursday, May 10, 2012 17:25:18 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > us in the organization, and if you are ok with us doing this job. > > i think it is great you 3 are taking this on... > > while i will not be there, i would be interested in doin

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Marco Martin
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Friday 11 May 2012 09:29:29 Ivan Čukić wrote: >> > while i will not be there, i would be interested in doing a remote >> > presentation, e.g. video over the net. let me know if that would be of >> >> It'd be nice if the presentation (and

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 11 May 2012 09:29:29 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > while i will not be there, i would be interested in doing a remote > > presentation, e.g. video over the net. let me know if that would be of > > It'd be nice if the presentation (and more) would be on a (for > example) G+ hangout so that a few o

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Ivan Čukić
> while i will not be there, i would be interested in doing a remote > presentation, e.g. video over the net. let me know if that would be of It'd be nice if the presentation (and more) would be on a (for example) G+ hangout so that a few of us can watch it. --- On a different note, I've wrote a

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-11 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, May 10, 2012 17:25:18 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > us in the organization, and if you are ok with us doing this job. i think it is great you 3 are taking this on... while i will not be there, i would be interested in doing a remote presentation, e.g. video over the net. let me know if that

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-10 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Thursday 10 May 2012 17:25:18 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > Basically what we are going to do is imagine how the sprint will work, > prepare room for everything (vision, technical stuff, design stuff, having > fun...). > > Of course, whatever we come out with will be a tentative schedule of how