On 06/17/2014 10:56 AM, Marco Martin wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com
mailto:notm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we
knew was
coming
I guess I am sooo not the dude to say this as it's technical in
nature but Aurorae theme is, as far as I recall, out as it has some
issues speed wise (?) it was too taxing if I recall correctly (I'm sure
I don't Martin G gave a handful of really good reasons why we
shouldn't use it)
But I
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of
anything technical,
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 15:09:33 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of
anything technical, people have
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 15:09:33 Marco Martin wrote:
just to give a shot on every and single options, i gave a try to
modifying
oxygen in order to make it look like breeze (therefore sharing all the
things that it does that are
On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of
anything technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change.
just to give a shot
On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote:
btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the branch
mart/kde4breeze
that tries to set qtcurve, apply colors etc in the kde4 session.
Do we go in this direction?
so, this is in now. please test.
one problem is: i need with
On Monday 19 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote:
btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the branch
mart/kde4breeze
that tries to set qtcurve, apply colors etc in the kde4 session.
Do we go in this direction?
so, this is in
QtCurve QStyle + Oxygen window dec is an option.
I run it here, it looks ok.
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Screenshot?
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM, David Edmundson
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QtCurve QStyle + Oxygen window dec is an option.
I run it here, it looks ok.
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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se wrote:
Screenshot?
http://imgur.com/Px6n2YO
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On Friday 16 May 2014 13:11:37 David Edmundson wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se wrote:
Screenshot?
http://imgur.com/Px6n2YO
true, looks quite good. That's with gradient disabled, isn't it?
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On Friday 16 May 2014, David Edmundson wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se wrote:
Screenshot?
http://imgur.com/Px6n2YO
the buttons are quite alien, but may be bearable
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On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote:
btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the branch
mart/kde4breeze
that tries to set qtcurve, apply colors etc in the kde4 session.
Do we go in this direction?
err, would be cool at least to know if i have to invest time in this
On Friday 16 May 2014 13:37:34 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote:
btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the branch
mart/kde4breeze
that tries to set qtcurve, apply colors etc in the kde4 session.
Do we go in this direction?
err, would
I am already pinged and have pinged Andrew
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer colo...@autistici.orgwrote:
On Friday 16 May 2014 13:37:34 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote:
btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the
On Friday 16 May 2014, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
i see here a giant thread of opinions wether would look nice or not,
and zero about concrete steps about how to solve the whole mess.
that's not cool
Do you need input from developers or designers? If designer input is
needed, just ping Jens
We have an extra month. Lets do it.
As for your application, I think we need a guard on
if (QFile::exists( theQStyleRcFile ) {
return;
}
so we don't trash user configs.
group.writeEntry(widgetStyle, oxygen);
seems wrong
Is the plan to add a kconf_update script to run this?
Or have it run by
On Friday 16 May 2014, David Edmundson wrote:
We have an extra month. Lets do it.
As for your application, I think we need a guard on
if (QFile::exists( theQStyleRcFile ) {
return;
}
so we don't trash user configs.
group.writeEntry(widgetStyle, oxygen);
seems wrong
Is the plan to
On Friday, May 16, 2014 16:20:26 Marco Martin wrote:
On Friday 16 May 2014, David Edmundson wrote:
We have an extra month. Lets do it.
As for your application, I think we need a guard on
if (QFile::exists( theQStyleRcFile ) {
return;
}
so we don't trash user configs.
at the moment is a kde4 application to be safer to access config of kde4
(otherwise i guess would be possible by just accessing ~/.kde or ~/kde4
going by attempts, but a bit more error prone perhaps)
We should be able to check KDEDIRS first here? (It's unused in KF5, but
could still be
On Friday 16 May 2014, Ivan Čukić wrote:
at the moment is a kde4 application to be safer to access config of
kde4 (otherwise i guess would be possible by just accessing ~/.kde or
~/kde4 going by attempts, but a bit more error prone perhaps)
We should be able to check KDEDIRS first
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Jens Reuterberg wrote:
I am already pinged and have pinged Andrew
Best I can tell, the new Plasma Next plan for visuals is:
* Widget style: QtCurve with Breeze settings applied for qt4 and qt5
QWidget apps
* Window decoration: Oxygen with background
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of anything
technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change.
The issue WOULD be more ok from my POV if it could be contained towards me
On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of
anything technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change.
The issue WOULD be
On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of
anything technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change.
The issue WOULD be
QtCurve, i would say it's definitely possible.
the thing that doesn't look that right is that is a 3rd party package that
i'm not sure is maintained (since maintainers don't answer)
I'm afraid that if we change it, that it will communicate that it is a final
and usable version (talking about
Am 15.05.2014 12:10 schrieb =?UTF-8?B?SXZhbiDEjHVracSH?= ivan.cu...@kde.org:
A bit off:
What do people think about adding an evil dialogue on startup, similar to
what
e17 had - to warn the users about the state of the software and its use in
production environment?
Don't we have a
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se wrote:
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of anything
technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change.
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
The performance will be bad with Aurorae (worse than with Oxygen). The
crashes
are now gone as we disabled the multi-threading.
My position doesn't change on that: Aurorae is not suited as a default
theme.
This has
In data giovedì 15 maggio 2014 11:39:00, Jens Reuterberg ha scritto:
The issue WOULD be more ok from my POV if it could be contained towards me
personally but its affecting VDG work not to mention being a massive PR
As David said, the feedback on Slashdot and Reddit is *always* negative and
Maybe we could make it the default and in combination with what Ivan is
I'm actually not talking only about the style :)
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On Thursday 15 May 2014 12:15:07 Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
Am 15.05.2014 12:10 schrieb =?UTF-8?B?SXZhbiDEjHVracSH?=
ivan.cu...@kde.org:
A bit off:
What do people think about adding an evil dialogue on startup, similar to
what e17 had - to warn the users about the state of the software and its
Don't we have a plasmoid already for that? That report a bug thing? We
could have that (or a similar one with warning text) placed on the desktop
by default?
Can somebody with good writing skills whip up something for this?
hm, don't know, a plasmoid is too easy to remove and forget
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:40:55 Ivan Čukić wrote:
Don't we have a plasmoid already for that? That report a bug thing? We
could have that (or a similar one with warning text) placed on the
desktop
by default?
Can somebody with good writing skills whip up something for this?
On Thursday 15 May 2014 12:21:34 Martin Klapetek wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
The performance will be bad with Aurorae (worse than with Oxygen). The
crashes
are now gone as we disabled the multi-threading.
My position doesn't change
On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se wrote:
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of anything
technical, people have
On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se wrote:
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se
wrote:
People always react whatever you do.
Do not get
On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:08:29 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se
wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:10:15 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:08:29 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote:
On Thu, May 15,
On 15.05.2014 14:10, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:08:29 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM,
On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:23:47 Marco Martin wrote:
* install the color scheme in the kf5 *and* kde4 proper folders, that are
different
* make the breeze color scheme default in both kf5 and kde4
ah, was forgetting:
* apply the new icon theme too in both kde4/kf5 as soon we have it
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On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
QtCurve is also there for Qt4, no? In that case, can't we share the theme
and make both, Qt4 and Qt5 apps looks the same that way?
yes, but we would change it also for their KDE 4 setup.
I'm thinking...would that
On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:28:49 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On 15.05.2014 14:10, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:08:29 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On 15.05.2014 12:16,
In data giovedì 15 maggio 2014 14:31:27, Martin Klapetek ha scritto:
I'm thinking...would that be a problem? We should perhaps warn users first,
yes, but then it was their choice to co-install it on the very same machine
Most distros will *not* ship PN as default configuration. So you might
On Thursday 15 May 2014, Martin Klapetek wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
QtCurve is also there for Qt4, no? In that case, can't we share the
theme and make both, Qt4 and Qt5 apps looks the same that way?
yes, but we would change it also
On Thursday 15 May 2014 12:49:31 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
I really don't want to have an Aurorae theme as default. It would undermine
the fact that I told distros to not do that. We cannot bend ourselves like
that :-)
Plan B: Use a QtCurve-based windeco together with the QtCurve widget style?
On Thursday 15 May 2014 22:37:55 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 12:49:31 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
I really don't want to have an Aurorae theme as default. It would
undermine
the fact that I told distros to not do that. We cannot bend ourselves like
that :-)
Plan B: Use a
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