Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 05 January 2010 00:54:53 Patrick Aljord wrote: but if the world goes all in on the web technology boat 100% we will be in a world of pain as time goes on. I don't think so, stuff like canvas, web sockets, fast js engines, webgl or even native client will turn the browser into a

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 05 January 2010 11:18:21 Marco Martin wrote: Where's this separation of data and presentation? Where's the semantic web that's been talked about for 10 years? Seriously, today's web sucks, and it doesn't look good for tomorrow's. there is a problem of mentality here that i'm

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-04 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: and probably give poor, or even incorrect, results. what exactly are you wanting to accomplish? HTML5 storage would allow making apps such as todo lists, note taker, or whatever that could make use of a db without the need

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-04 Thread Chani
On January 4, 2010 10:02:29 Patrick Aljord wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: and probably give poor, or even incorrect, results. what exactly are you wanting to accomplish? HTML5 storage would allow making apps such as todo lists, note taker, or

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-04 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Chani chan...@gmail.com wrote: HTML5 storage would allow making apps such as todo lists, note taker, or whatever that could make use of a db without the need of writing or using a data engine. Not perfect but nice. kinda sounds like data you'd want to

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 4, 2010, Patrick Aljord wrote: Could be, but the thing would be to use web technologies only. so now we're back to why? the answer to which seems to be ease of use. now, since storing things using html5 dbs is really not going to work out overly well for plasmoids (these kinds of

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-04 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: On January 4, 2010, Patrick Aljord wrote: Could be, but the thing would be to use web technologies only. if i understand it correctly, the request is for easy access to data persistence (separate from configuration data),

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 4, 2010, Patrick Aljord wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: On January 4, 2010, Patrick Aljord wrote: Could be, but the thing would be to use web technologies only. if i understand it correctly, the request is for easy access to data

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-04 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: relative to what we're doing, it is. i somehow doubt it will work at all with remote widgets, for instance. Ok I didn't think about remote widgets. Point taken. in particular, it's pretty evident that html5 storage has

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-03 Thread Patrick Aljord
I saw you committed your changes, looks cool. I used to test my plasmoids in firefox with firebug but now using window.plasmoid makes the whole thing fail. It would be cool if there was a way to start the webkit web inspector from the web plasmoid. Any idea if that is possible? Thanks in advance,

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 3, 2010, Patrick Aljord wrote: It would be cool if there was a way to start the webkit web inspector from the web plasmoid. Any idea if that is possible? svn up in kdebase/workspace/plasma/generic/scriptengines/webkit :) -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint:

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 2, 2010, Petri Damstén wrote: I think dataengines in webkit plasmoids have worked since KDE 4.3. since we're talking about webkit plasmoids (warningthread hijacking, so rude!/warning) .. .. there are some things that could be improved for the webkit plasmoids. it might be helpful

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-03 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: anything else? Maybe this is not related but html5 storage doesn't seem to work, I get this error when starting the plasmoid: Failed to open the database on disk. This is probably because the version was bad or there is not

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-03 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Patrick Aljord patc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: anything else? Maybe this is not related but html5 storage doesn't seem to work, I get this error when starting the plasmoid: Ok, I tested in

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-03 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 3, 2010, Patrick Aljord wrote: Ok, I tested in arora and I get the same error so it's probably Qt related. It would be cool to have that though, it would enable to write real desktop web app like adobe air, I know I can use data engines but having that would be great too and easier

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick Aljord
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: requires today's trunk for everything to work perfectly enjoy. thanks, today's trunk is what will become kde 4.4 right? Or has that moved to a branch already? ___ Plasma-devel

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-02 Thread Petri Damstén
On Saturday 02 January 2010 03:56:48 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On January 1, 2010, Patrick Aljord wrote: I just read a comment by Aaron saying that DataEngines can be accesed from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids. I tried to figured how it can be done but couldn't so far. Any clue? :)

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-02 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 2, 2010, Petri Damstén wrote: On Saturday 02 January 2010 03:56:48 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On January 1, 2010, Patrick Aljord wrote: I just read a comment by Aaron saying that DataEngines can be accesed from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids. I tried to figured how it can be

Re: how can I access DataEngines from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids?

2010-01-01 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On January 1, 2010, Patrick Aljord wrote: I just read a comment by Aaron saying that DataEngines can be accesed from JavaScript in the Web Plasmoids. I tried to figured how it can be done but couldn't so far. Any clue? :) kdeexamples/plasma/webkit/plasmoids/ requires today's trunk for