Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-14 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 14 October 2014, David Edmundson wrote: > > I'd quite like to use the wallpaper plugins from SDDM too; which means > exposing WallpaperInterface in a slightly different manner than you'd > probably be wanting to use for the lock screen, as I can't go via a > Containment. doesn't even n

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-14 Thread ctoenn...@interstel.de
On 14.10.2014 01:01, David Edmundson wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Marco Martin > wrote: on either case, should be very easy to recycle the complete wallpaper mechanism of plasmashell, even the qml only wallpapers (that if animated.. yay, s

Re: Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 13 October 2014 22:47:10 ctoenn...@interstel.de wrote: > On 13.10.2014 17:21, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > On Monday 13 October 2014 16:44:30 Martin Klapetek wrote: > >> I think by default it should use the (current visible) desktop wallpaper > >> in > >> the lockscreen. > > > > for privacy

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread David Edmundson
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > > this is already 5.2 stuff, but just to discuss. > we still have one burned-in fixed wallpaper for the lock screen, so at this > point it should get a bit of attention. > > one thing i'm not sure to do if i want to have again the p

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Eike Hein
On 13.10.2014 22:50, ctoenn...@interstel.de wrote: Why not simply have the checkbox "use default wallpaper" in the lockscreen kcm? Unchecked, it would allow for picking a background yourself. I think we're kind of, of sort of discussing three different things at the same time: a) The ability

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread ctoenn...@interstel.de
On 13.10.2014 17:21, Eike Hein wrote: On 13.10.2014 17:19, Marco Martin wrote: not really, just the lockscreen view would load the qml files used for system wallpapers now, and then they should just "automagically work" by default would just be the image wallpaper that by default uses the ima

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread ctoenn...@interstel.de
On 13.10.2014 17:21, Martin Gräßlin wrote: On Monday 13 October 2014 16:44:30 Martin Klapetek wrote: I think by default it should use the (current visible) desktop wallpaper in the lockscreen. for privacy reasons the current configured wallpaper should not be used in the lock screen (or splash

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Eike Hein
On 13.10.2014 17:48, Martin Gräßlin wrote: please keep in mind that screens might get added while the screen is locked. Right, so plasmashell would have to initialize it, dump the wallpaper and get it to the lockscreen. Cheers Martin Cheers, Eike _

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Harald Sitter
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Jens Reuterberg wrote: > 1) It didn't reveal the nature of your wallpaper (we tested, > extensively) knock yourselves out guessing :P http://imgur.com/a/1bHH5 HS ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https:

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Jens Reuterberg
Sry for a late reply (sick and been sleeping) but the one Harald Sitter and I fiddled with during Akademy was kinda nice where it used a blurred version of your wallpaper. 1) It didn't reveal the nature of your wallpaper (we tested, extensively) 2) It creates the sensation of "fading to desktop

Re: Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 13 October 2014 17:29:55 Eike Hein wrote: > On 13.10.2014 17:23, Marco Martin wrote: > > yes, in the case of slideshow or other weird custom animated backgrounds > > can still somewhat be synced, but only so far > > An implementation alternative would be what Mac OS X does, maybe: > OS X

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
Hi, apparently OSX 10.8 Mountain Lion uses the current user's wallpaper, dimmed, whereas 10.9 Mavericks uses a generic gray background with Apple logo (with no way of changing that - apart from replacing a couple of system files) Cheers ___ Plasma-de

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Eike Hein
On 13.10.2014 17:36, Marco Martin wrote: On Monday 13 October 2014, Eike Hein wrote: On 13.10.2014 17:23, Marco Martin wrote: yes, in the case of slideshow or other weird custom animated backgrounds can still somewhat be synced, but only so far An implementation alternative would be what Ma

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 13 October 2014, Eike Hein wrote: > On 13.10.2014 17:23, Marco Martin wrote: > > yes, in the case of slideshow or other weird custom animated backgrounds > > can still somewhat be synced, but only so far > > An implementation alternative would be what Mac OS X does, maybe: > OS X used to

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Eike Hein
On 13.10.2014 17:23, Marco Martin wrote: yes, in the case of slideshow or other weird custom animated backgrounds can still somewhat be synced, but only so far An implementation alternative would be what Mac OS X does, maybe: OS X used to have a lock screen with a generic wallpaper, but as of

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 13 October 2014, Eike Hein wrote: > On 13.10.2014 17:19, Marco Martin wrote: > > not really, just the lockscreen view would load the qml files used for > > system wallpapers now, and then they should just "automagically work" by > > default would just be the image wallpaper that by defaul

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 13 October 2014, Eike Hein wrote: > > > > > Still, adding the functionality to pick up the current or a > > custom wallpaper is fine if done correctly, of course, but not > > as a default IMHO. > > instead of some automagic and defa

Re: Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 13 October 2014 16:44:30 Martin Klapetek wrote: > I think by default it should use the (current visible) desktop wallpaper in > the lockscreen. for privacy reasons the current configured wallpaper should not be used in the lock screen (or splash screen or whatever). Having a checkbox "

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Eike Hein
On 13.10.2014 17:19, Marco Martin wrote: not really, just the lockscreen view would load the qml files used for system wallpapers now, and then they should just "automagically work" by default would just be the image wallpaper that by default uses the image specified in the plasma theme, so wou

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 13 October 2014, Aleix Pol wrote: > I understand that some people really like that idea though, I think the > best would be to have some kind of checkbox in the wallpaper chosing dialog > or lockscreen kcm that says use wallpaper for the lockscreen but I'm still > afraid that this will co

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > > this is already 5.2 stuff, but just to discuss. > we still have one burned-in fixed wallpaper for the lock screen, so at this > point it should get a bit of attention. > > one thing i'm not sure to do if i want to have again the p

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 13 October 2014, Eike Hein wrote: > > Still, adding the functionality to pick up the current or a > custom wallpaper is fine if done correctly, of course, but not > as a default IMHO. instead of some automagic and default i was more thinking about some option in the ordinary wallpaper

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Eike Hein
On 13.10.2014 16:44, Martin Klapetek wrote: I think by default it should use the (current visible) desktop wallpaper in the lockscreen. I think that's a bad default for security/privacy reasons. The purpose of the lock screen is to avoid exposing system state while the system is unattended; c

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 13 October 2014, Martin Klapetek wrote: > I think by default it should use the (current visible) desktop wallpaper in > the lockscreen. > > Then there could be two options - select custom wallpaper or use the > current but blurred (Harald has PoC of this and imo it's really cool). worki

Re: wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Martin Klapetek
I think by default it should use the (current visible) desktop wallpaper in the lockscreen. Then there could be two options - select custom wallpaper or use the current but blurred (Harald has PoC of this and imo it's really cool). Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer __

wallpapers on lock screen

2014-10-13 Thread Marco Martin
Hi all, this is already 5.2 stuff, but just to discuss. we still have one burned-in fixed wallpaper for the lock screen, so at this point it should get a bit of attention. one thing i'm not sure to do if i want to have again the possibility to put widgets in the lock screen as it was in kde4. t