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2013-11-04 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi all, I'm not going to be able to come to the hangout (noons are becoming difficult for me). I've finished the structure that will be needed for supporting templates (the generic properties for plugins thing). There are a few questions thgouh. 0. How / where do we want the plugins to be

minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Plasma 2 meeting, 4th November 2013 Present: Aaron, Antonis, Giorgos, Marco, Martin, Sebastian Giorgos: - Make QML logging work for Plasmate https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,68939 - XWayland has missed its release Marco: - Work on shell mechanics to show widgets explorer and

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread David Edmundson
In future can you clarify which Martin. There are two in Plasma. David (Edmundson) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:13 PM, David Edmundson da...@davidedmundson.co.ukwrote: In future can you clarify which Martin. There are two in Plasma. Well it was not me :) Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer ___ Plasma-devel mailing list

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Even the simplest of notes bear opportunity for mistakes, if one tries hard enough. On Monday, November 04, 2013 13:06:06 Sebastian Kügler wrote: Martin: Grässlin - Splash architecture: splash should probably go into SDDM, own process is too wasteful - XWayland has missed its release --

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: Martin: - Splash architecture: splash should probably go into SDDM, own process is too wasteful While I agree that own process can be too wasteful, putting it inside SDDM would mean putting it either into all login

right repositories

2013-11-04 Thread Marco Martin
Hi all, we still have two shell packages (one real, one stub) and a stub look and feel package in plasma-framework/src/shell/qmlpackages/ they should be moved in kde-workspace for sure. where? and everybody agrees on doing it now? Cheers, Marco Martin

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, November 4, 2013 13:19:37 Martin Klapetek wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: Martin: - Splash architecture: splash should probably go into SDDM, own process is too wasteful While I agree that own process can be too wasteful, putting

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: On Monday, November 4, 2013 13:19:37 Martin Klapetek wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: Martin: - Splash architecture: splash should probably go into SDDM, own process is

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, November 4, 2013 15:21:27 Martin Klapetek wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: On Monday, November 4, 2013 13:19:37 Martin Klapetek wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: and means more maintenance

Semi-modal sidebar paradigm

2013-11-04 Thread Marco Martin
Hi all, since i was getting the activity switcher and widget explorer at least a bit in shape in plasma2, i was experimenting with an idea we were toying a bit around at the last tokamak. Identifying all pieces of ui in the workspace that are completely modeal, like splash, lockscreen/user

Re: Review Request 113260: Port KTimeZoned to Qt5/KF5

2013-11-04 Thread Kevin Ottens
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/113260/#review42954 --- Looks OK to me, but I'd like John to give it a last look. -

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 04 November 2013, Martin Klapetek wrote: How is that more maintenance for us if the code lives standalone (compared to being part of SDDM or whatever)? It would be moreless the same codebase, just in a different directory. The worst case scenario is that users do not get a

Re: Review Request 113260: Port KTimeZoned to Qt5/KF5

2013-11-04 Thread John Layt
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/113260/#review42961 --- I've asked on the Qt Development list about Qt 5 Solaris

Re: Review Request 113260: Port KTimeZoned to Qt5/KF5

2013-11-04 Thread John Layt
On Nov. 4, 2013, 4:12 p.m., John Layt wrote: I've asked on the Qt Development list about Qt 5 Solaris support. I'm told it builds and works to some extent, and patches are welcome, but not without having been tested on a real Solaris build first, which I have no desire to do. I

Re: Review Request 113260: Port KTimeZoned to Qt5/KF5

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Nov. 4, 2013, 4:12 p.m., John Layt wrote: I've asked on the Qt Development list about Qt 5 Solaris support. I'm told it builds and works to some extent, and patches are welcome, but not without having been tested on a real Solaris build first, which I have no desire to do. I

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread David Edmundson
I spent my afternoon having a meeting about SDDM with Martin Briza. (another Martin!) It seems like there's a push towards SDDM for various political reasons, so I will invest more time in that. He's currently working on trying to replace KDM with SDDM within the Plasma 1 timeframe. Currently he

Re: minutes Monday Plasma hangout

2013-11-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, November 4, 2013 18:36:55 David Edmundson wrote: I spent my afternoon having a meeting about SDDM with Martin Briza. (another Martin!) good to hear work is ongoing there; will be great to get this status info up on the wiki with the other components. sebas is working up the template

Re: Semi-modal sidebar paradigm

2013-11-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, November 4, 2013 16:40:09 Marco Martin wrote: http://im9.eu/picture/tg1706 http://im9.eu/picture/jj1706 http://im9.eu/picture/nv1706 it’s a very neat idea. something that would also be interesting to experiment with in kwin is a special presentation mode for such elements. if it

Re: Semi-modal sidebar paradigm

2013-11-04 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
Hi, it’s a very neat idea. Really love it, too. And the blur effect is gorgeous! something that would also be interesting to experiment with in kwin is a special presentation mode for such elements. if it could be done with enough performance/fluidity, it could be quite nice to “shove” the

Re: Semi-modal sidebar paradigm

2013-11-04 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 04 November 2013, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: Definitely like the idea. Would love to see that for the notification shade/history, too. (OSX *hint hint*) Give it more room and allow for bigger, richer and more interactive notifications. Think of chatting or pa uses the same look for

Re: Semi-modal sidebar paradigm

2013-11-04 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, November 4, 2013 20:25:44 Marco Martin wrote: Pushing the desktop to the side is definitely nice but due to the lack of input redirection in an X world, we cannot move all the window over a bit, too.(?) yeah, that's my concern as well, i would love to have it, but since is

Re: Semi-modal sidebar paradigm

2013-11-04 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Monday 04 November 2013 16:40:09 Marco Martin wrote: Hi all, since i was getting the activity switcher and widget explorer at least a bit in shape in plasma2, i was experimenting with an idea we were toying a bit around at the last tokamak. Identifying all pieces of ui in the workspace

Re: Semi-modal sidebar paradigm

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday 04 November 2013 20:29:26 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Monday, November 4, 2013 20:25:44 Marco Martin wrote: Pushing the desktop to the side is definitely nice but due to the lack of input redirection in an X world, we cannot move all the window over a bit, too.(?) yeah,