Clock/Calendar bug (was Plasma::PopupApplet API change proposal)

2009-03-24 Thread Ivan Čukić
This is mostly dedicated to Aaron and Rob (IIRC, Rob did PopupApplet and Extenders) The passive pop-up problem got me thinking. When a dialog is passive, it can only receive keyboard input when its parent application has the focus. This means that the text-box in the calendar (the

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: Raptor Menu

2009-03-24 Thread Lukas Appelhans
On Dienstag 24 März 2009 00:38:44 Sebastian Kügler wrote: Hi Max, Welcome to Plasma :) On Monday 23 March 2009 21:31:56 Max Greenblatt wrote: I am a senior in computer engineering at the University of Michigan. I am a huge fan of KDE 4.0 and I found the proposed Raptor menu to be

Re: dropping content onto Plasma

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Sebastian Kügler wrote: The short version Is there a way to offer plasma applet creation based on mimetypes of content dropped onto Plasma also for URLS? The Good I think that dropping random content on the desktop is a very strong UI metaphor. If we can make

Re: Clock/Calendar bug (was Plasma::PopupApplet API change proposal)

2009-03-24 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 12:37:18 Ivan Čukić wrote: When a dialog is passive, it can only receive keyboard input when its parent application has the focus. This means that the text-box in the calendar (the clock-pop-out-calendar, not the calendar applet) meant for entering the date works only

Re: Review Request: Plasma::AbstractRunner::Syntax

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin Ottens
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Re: Clock/Calendar bug (was Plasma::PopupApplet API change proposal)

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Rob Scheepmaker wrote: as possible. The calendar only opens when the user wants to, in which case passive popup isn't necessary at all. think about when and why the user opens the calendar: to check dates. often this is to coordinate something going on somewhere else,

Re: dropping content onto Plasma

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Marco Martin wrote: The above procedure works nicely for local content, such as files. URL's are a special kind of draggable content though. As far as I understand, a URL doesn't have a mimetype attached, it's either data + mimetype (+ other metainformation) or

Re: Plasma on MID, take 2

2009-03-24 Thread Artur Souza(MoRpHeUz)
Hi! =) On Monday 23 March 2009 18:05:12 Emmanuel Lepage-Vallée wrote: Hi, almost no one seem have have got my first mail so I send a new one. It is also a new version of my proposal. I will also make an use case as notmart and MoRpHeUz thinks it is a good idea. I will also send the proposal

Re: Review Request: New option for plasma Notes

2009-03-24 Thread Zareth
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/366/ --- (Updated 2009-03-24 07:23:52.484603) Review request for Plasma. Changes

Re: dropping content onto Plasma

2009-03-24 Thread Dominik Haumann
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Sebastian Kügler wrote: The short version Is there a way to offer plasma applet creation based on mimetypes of content dropped onto Plasma also for URLS? [...] I'd like to have this fine mechanism also working URLs and be a bit smarter about that. I'm not sure

Re: Plasma on MID, take 2

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Martin
On 3/24/09, Artur Souza(MoRpHeUz) morph...@openbossa.org wrote: Hi! =) On Monday 23 March 2009 18:05:12 Emmanuel Lepage-Vallée wrote: Hi, almost no one seem have have got my first mail so I send a new one. It is also a new version of my proposal. I will also make an use case as

Suggestions on my GSoC proposal

2009-03-24 Thread Ana Cecília Martins Barbosa
Hey, could someone take a look on my GSoC proposal to the New Widget Explorer project and maybe suggest anything? :) Here is the link: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddxppm45_13cc2rrqcw thanks in advance, annieC ___ Plasma-devel mailing list

Re: Plasma on MID, take 2

2009-03-24 Thread Michael Rudolph
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 16:04, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote: i think the central part of this project should be making that central icon vieew really solid, it should be able to show installed appplications (or even just the useful fraction of them) and or running apps, then for a

Re: dropping content onto Plasma

2009-03-24 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:30:41 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Marco Martin wrote: The above procedure works nicely for local content, such as files. URL's are a special kind of draggable content though. As far as I understand, a URL doesn't have a mimetype attached,

Re: dropping content onto Plasma

2009-03-24 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:24:11 Dominik Haumann wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Sebastian Kügler wrote: The short version Is there a way to offer plasma applet creation based on mimetypes of content dropped onto Plasma also for URLS? [...] I'd like to have this fine mechanism

Re: dropping content onto Plasma

2009-03-24 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:30:41 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Marco Martin wrote: The above procedure works nicely for local content, such as files. URL's are a special kind of draggable content though. As far as I understand, a URL doesn't have a mimetype attached,

Re: Plasma on MID, take 2

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Michael Rudolph wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 16:04, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote: i think the central part of this project should be making that central icon vieew really solid, it should be able to show installed appplications (or even just the useful

Re: dropping content onto Plasma

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:30:41 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Marco Martin wrote: The above procedure works nicely for local content, such as files. URL's are a special kind of draggable content though. As far as I

Re: Clock/Calendar bug (was Plasma::PopupApplet API change proposal)

2009-03-24 Thread Casper Clemence
After observing a few non-techie people use my laptop I have noticed that they tend to panic slightly when the calendar pop-up doesn't disappear automatically. Waggling the mouse about while they work out where they need to click seems to be the usual response. It would nice at least to give

Re: Suggestions on my GSoC proposal

2009-03-24 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi Annie, Before I start, I want you to welcome you to KDE and Plasma, and to say that everything I write here is solely my point of view, and doesn't need to reflect the opinion of other Plasma mentors. I needed to write the statement above since most of the time I sound to harsh while I'm

Re: Suggestions on my GSoC proposal

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Ana Cecília Martins Barbosa wrote: Hey, could someone take a look on my GSoC proposal to the New Widget Explorer project and maybe suggest anything? :) Here is the link: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddxppm45_13cc2rrqcw thanks in advance, annieC really good, i

Re: Plasma on MID, take 2

2009-03-24 Thread Michael Rudolph
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 16:46, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote: given that someone doesn't find some revolutionary way to launch aplications (or call them tasks or activities or whatever) better than an icon grid... Cheers, Marco Martin Hi Marco, hihi, I guess that was what I was

Re: Clock/Calendar bug (was Plasma::PopupApplet API change proposal)

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Casper Clemence wrote: It would be great if it could somehow elegantly support both usage patterns. Some sort of button that could be pressed that clearly meant don't disappear... hmmm what we did in kde3 was provide a close button. a generic collapse this back

Re: Plasma on MID, take 2

2009-03-24 Thread Artur Souza(MoRpHeUz)
Hi Michael! On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:00:43 Michael Rudolph wrote: If that sounds like it could indeed be better than an icon grid, we should pursue this further, perhaps by agreeing on some use cases first that are important to us. And also keep coordinating with our soc students. I think

Re: Plasma on MID, take 2

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Michael Rudolph wrote: I never understood why plasma-mid wants to cater to, well, MIDs, as well as netbooks. because i was tainted by looking at MIDs from the people who coined the term, Intel, and not the MIDs that we all tend to think of such as the n810. the

Re: dropping content onto Plasma

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:30:41 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Marco Martin wrote: The above procedure works nicely for local content, such as files. URL's are a special kind of draggable content though. As far as I

Review Request: Support a custom pixmap (like a kopete contact image) in plasma notifications.

2009-03-24 Thread Rob Scheepmaker
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/405/ --- Review request for Plasma. Summary --- The oldschool Passive Popup

Re: Suggestions on my GSoC proposal

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Ana Cecília Martins Barbosa wrote: Here is the link: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddxppm45_13cc2rrqcw welcome to the project; thanks for the SoC proposal. now let's do a pros and cons list! :) pros: * i like that you are planning on starting with user research, and

Re: Plasma on MID, take 2

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Michael Rudolph wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 16:46, Marco Martin notm...@gmail.com wrote: given that someone doesn't find some revolutionary way to launch aplications (or call them tasks or activities or whatever) better than an icon grid... Cheers, Marco

Re: Review Request: Support a custom pixmap (like a kopete contact image) in plasma notifications.

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Martin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/405/#review589 --- i would really love to see what is the best (and more crossdesktop)

Re: Clock/Calendar bug (was Plasma::PopupApplet API change proposal)

2009-03-24 Thread Ivan Čukić
it would (with the current implementation) induce closing the popups when they lose the focus, which is not desired (at least not for Passive or not is set on PopupApplet, not extenders (through I know, I just mentioned them as an example where auto-close-on-lost-focus is bad idea. I agree

Re: Review Request: Support a custom pixmap (like a kopete contact image) in plasma notifications.

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Martin
On 2009-03-24 10:53:27, Aaron Seigo wrote: we can certainly put an upper limit on the size of the images, and make them smaller on the sending side too. (better for the transmission over the bus) i think sticking with image_data makes sense; it's a place galago can and should be

Re: Plasma on MID, take 2

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Michael Rudolph wrote: I never understood why plasma-mid wants to cater to, well, MIDs, as well as netbooks. because i was tainted by looking at MIDs from the people who coined the term, Intel, and not the MIDs that

Re: Review Request: Backport multihead fixes

2009-03-24 Thread Guillaume Pothier
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: On Monday 23 March 2009, Guillaume Pothier wrote: Hi, not sure it is related, but since a few days I've notived that I loose the panel when I go from two monitors to one. I have the panel on the external monitor, and it

Re: Review Request: Plasma::AbstractRunner::Syntax

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron Seigo
On 2009-03-24 06:24:42, Kevin Ottens wrote: trunk/KDE/kdelibs/plasma/abstractrunner.h, line 83 http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/372/diff/2/?file=3421#file3421line83 Why not a default ctor instead? You've accessors anyway and it's mainly a data store class. a Syntax without an

Re: Review Request: Plasma::AbstractRunner::Syntax

2009-03-24 Thread Dario Freddi
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:03:25 Aaron Seigo wrote: so i'd like to keep addSyntax as that keeps the runners simpler, but add a setSyntaxes and removing clearSyntaxes does make sense ... thoughts? I'm fine with keeping addSyntax and adding setSyntaxes (I proposed something similar before

Re: Clock/Calendar bug (was Plasma::PopupApplet API change proposal)

2009-03-24 Thread Ivan Čukić
that's actually partly the definition of passive, and you can get at this API-wise by using KWindowSystem (which is what PopupApplet is doing Maybe I haven't explained myself. Passive window is a window that is not managed by the window manager, that is, it can not have the focus. Is that

gsoc; PlasMate

2009-03-24 Thread Oszkar Ambrus
Hi, I'm writing a GSoC application to the Plasmate project. On the project website (http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/PlasMate) there is a quite extensive description of what is should do, and even a design description listing and describing the main classes used. This doesn't live much

Re: Another Summer of Code proposal (desktop dock)

2009-03-24 Thread Fábio Firmo
Hello again, I know it's been quite a time but it's not too late. I still want to participate, and I have some more technical questions. I tried irc yesterday but only today I realized that was the wrong channel (duh!) Ok, so the main question is: Will be the dock a containment or a applet, and

Re: Suggestions on my GSoC proposal

2009-03-24 Thread Ana Cecília Martins Barbosa
Thanks everybody for the feedback. This is the first time I'm doing this, so it's very important to me to hear from you guys - I listened to every suggestion you gave me. here is the link to the updated proposal: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddxppm45_13cc2rrqcw The things I corrected were

RFC on my (unfinished) gsoc-proposal

2009-03-24 Thread Martin T. Sandsmark
Good evening to you all, good Madams and Sirs! Compliment of the day and how is life general with you? I plan on submitting a proposal for writing a Plasma-oriented IDE, Plasmate. Some of the excellent Plasma-developers have already started on it, with a lot of nice ideas and even a skeleton

Re: Review Request: Backport multihead fixes

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Guillaume Pothier wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: the question becomes: do we want to introduce some logic (which will likely get a bit complex) to make things work differently? Yes, I think it is very much needed.

Re: Review Request: Backport multihead fixes

2009-03-24 Thread Guillaume Pothier
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote: About NearestScreen(), it could just actually be the next configured screen, like (s+1)%N, or something like that, if we do not have information about where the removed screen was. we probably have geometry information