Plasma Applet Testing for 4.9

2012-05-16 Thread David Edmundson
As you may know the KDE Quality team was set up recently with the aim of conducting organised testing of KDE just before a release. The overall plan is to have several days of specific testing, (dates TBC) trying to drum up involvment marking it easier, and have a specific targetted lists of thing

Re: Workspace sprint, workplan/methodology

2012-05-16 Thread Rick Stockton
On 05/16/2012 12:07 PM, Aleix Poi wrote: Furthermore, I see things like "on-screen keyboard" in this document. From my point of view, this sprint should be about how to iterate KDE on the desktop systems (with this mouse and keyboard we've all grown to love), others are already taken care of by

Re: Plasma_UX_improvement_project news

2012-05-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hi Erik and Jana, On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 19:54:42 J.K. Majeed wrote: > Over the course of our school semester we have been assigned the task of > helping the development of Plasma Active, a task that has been very > intriguing and interesting for all of us. We are a student group of six > memb

Re: Workspace sprint, workplan/methodology

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: > integrate to Plasma instead of how does Plasma integrate applications. > I have to catch up with all the literature that has happened today :). > > Furthermore, I see things like "on-screen keyboard" in this document. > From my point of view, this sprin

Re: Workspace sprint, workplan/methodology

2012-05-16 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > So, to put it in a new thread: > possible work plan and methodology: > http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Workspace_Sprint > > is completely open, anybody that wants to modify it is welcome to do so. > > other thing and topic, since is about that

Review Request: Plasmate: fix publisher's combobox and doCMake slot

2012-05-16 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104969/ --- Review request for Plasma. Description --- Hello, those are some iss

Plasma_UX_improvement_project news

2012-05-16 Thread J.K. Majeed
Hello all KDE developers! Over the course of our school semester we have been assigned the task of helping the development of Plasma Active, a task that has been very intriguing and interesting for all of us. We are a student group of six members that have been asked to improve the Plasma Active

Re: [Bugsquad] Versions and commit hooks

2012-05-16 Thread Anne-Marie Mahfouf
Hi, A very good practice for all developers would be to use the KDE Git Commit Template http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Git/Configuration#Commit_Template and to fill in there all the appropriate fields including FIXED-IN whenever you commit. Best regards, Anne-Marie On 05/16/2012 05:

Re: Re: more thoughts on kwin and window thumbnails in plasma shells

2012-05-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012 14:14:51 Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 15 May 2012, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > well, is just that when the world goes into the compositor, the > > > probability of this happening skyrockets ;) > > > > Let's try to get our software working and not thinking about solution

Re: Re: Versions and commit hooks

2012-05-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012 17:18:40 Aleix Pol wrote: > Well, it's not about people doing this, but that we're asking people > to put redundant information in the commit message. I don't consider this to be redundant information, but also see it as a quite useful information when using git log to go

Workspace sprint, workplan/methodology

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
So, to put it in a new thread: possible work plan and methodology: http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Workspace_Sprint is completely open, anybody that wants to modify it is welcome to do so. other thing and topic, since is about that sprint anyways, infos about the place, how to reach etc would be

Re: Versions and commit hooks

2012-05-16 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 13:28:55 Aleix Pol wrote: >> In git you know if a bug it's fixed in a release because the release >> log contains the bug fix. That is: >>     git log KDE/4.8..KDE/4.9 | grep "BUG: " > > very few of our users will,

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, David Edmundson wrote: > > Ideas? > > opinions? > > We could do with a wiki page with a basic list of possible agenda > items (starting with this list). > This email is just going to get drowned out in the large volume of > other traffic in this thread, which is a million

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
It sounds good, maybe we should start a new thread since this got contaminated with offtopic (sorry for that :( ) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread David Edmundson
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: >> On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:54:16 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> > there was something started quite some time ago by .. i forget who? .. > here: >> According to the history of the page, by you.

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 03:04:04 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 14:48:58 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > We need then something like active where we can put all visions > > (workspace, > > applications, hardware support...) and create a more unified experience. > > i agree ... an

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 15:05:03 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:04:13 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > an answer to "turn my computer off" is not "manage applications". > > Not a valid example, I never turn off my computer (suspend) and even if I > did I turn off the computer o

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 15:06:58 Marco Martin wrote: > Ideas? love it. i bet this will bring high quality, big pay-off results at the sprint if employed ... -- Aaron J. Seigo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:04:13 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > an answer to "finding alex's email" is not "manage applications". Good point. > an answer to "turn my computer off" is not "manage applications". Not a valid example, I never turn off my computer (suspend) and even if I did I turn off

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:54:16 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > there was something started quite some time ago by .. i forget who? .. here: > According to the history of the page, by you. > > > http://community.kde.org/Plasma/TheWaysOfThePlasm

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 14:51:17 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:44:26 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > well as Solid (hardware integration) > > > > separate email for a separate topic: frameworks and the workspace >

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 14:48:58 Alex Fiestas wrote: > We need then something like active where we can put all visions (workspace, > applications, hardware support...) and create a more unified experience. i agree ... and, btw, i'm stupidly excited that we're actually at a point where we can e

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 14:22:40 Alex Fiestas wrote: > If for understanding our vision we have to read all that then it is not a > good vision imho. i offered a short paragraph that describes the overall vision we've had to date in this thread. let me try again: "create an elegant and organic

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:44:26 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > well as Solid (hardware integration) > > separate email for a separate topic: frameworks and the workspace > definition. > :) > > Solid is not part of the workspace Solid ==

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 01:20:21 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > So, what is the workspace for you? > > the components that take care of supporting the working area of the computer > and practices of the person using the system. these tasks

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > > scalable: mostly referring to the available space so screen size (or just > > containment size, applets in panels vs desktop) > > we started with the formfactor concept and gone forward with the device > > specific qml files for plasmoids (expe

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:54:16 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > there was something started quite some time ago by .. i forget who? .. here: According to the history of the page, by you. > http://community.kde.org/Plasma/TheWaysOfThePlasma > > there are other bits spread around the wiki ther

Re: more thoughts on kwin and window thumbnails in plasma shells

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 23:25:40 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Tuesday 15 May 2012 20:35:01 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 May 2012, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 15 May 2012 14:13:24 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > > how > > > > does this resolve the window thumbnail issue? you can share

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:51:16 PM Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 09:49:22 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:24:56 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote:

Re: more thoughts on kwin and window thumbnails in plasma shells

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 15 May 2012, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > well, is just that when the world goes into the compositor, the > > probability of this happening skyrockets ;) > > Let's try to get our software working and not thinking about solutions for > the case that our software is buggy. If we allow o

Re: Versions and commit hooks

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 13:28:55 Aleix Pol wrote: > In git you know if a bug it's fixed in a release because the release > log contains the bug fix. That is: > git log KDE/4.8..KDE/4.9 | grep "BUG: " very few of our users will, or even know how, to do this. everyone who reports a bug, howe

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > well as Solid (hardware integration) separate email for a separate topic: frameworks and the workspace definition. :) Solid is not part of the workspace. neither is libplasma. they are frameworks that can and are used by applications tha

Re: Versions and commit hooks

2012-05-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am 16.05.2012 13:28, schrieb Aleix Pol: So, what does FIXED-IN tag offer? Or is it just a hack because we don't have the proper tool set? Your users who reported the bug don't have git log and cannot know when the bug fix will appear. Adding the information will fill in the Version fixed-in fie

Re: Versions and commit hooks

2012-05-16 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi everyone, > > after checking with Aaron and to make bug handling easier I have set > versions and milestones to the product "plasma" in > http://bugs.kde.org. > > It would be great if you could from now on use the commit hook > FIX

Re: Versions and commit hooks

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:41:01 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > It would be great if you could from now on use the commit hook > FIXED-IN when you fix a bug. The currently available milestones you thanks for doing this, Myriam. now let's actually use this. Myriam wrote "it would be great" and i

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > So, what is the workspace for you? the components that take care of supporting the working area of the computer and practices of the person using the system. these tasks include: * user session start / stop / switch * power management * a

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:50:45 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:02:34 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:34:47 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > Plasma workspace should be excellent on launching, switching and getting > > > applications and it shouldn't bothe

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:14:46 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 09:49:22 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:24:56 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote: > > > > Have you been aware of this vision? > > > > > > N

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 09:49:22 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:24:56 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote: > > > > Have you been aware of this vision? > > > > > > No. > > >

Versions and commit hooks

2012-05-16 Thread Myriam Schweingruber
Hi everyone, after checking with Aaron and to make bug handling easier I have set versions and milestones to the product "plasma" in http://bugs.kde.org. It would be great if you could from now on use the commit hook FIXED-IN when you fix a bug. The currently available milestones you can use are:

Re: Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:02:34 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:34:47 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > Plasma workspace should be excellent on launching, switching and getting > > applications and it shouldn't bother the user while using those. > > i think it is a fine (start t

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:34:47 Alex Fiestas wrote: > Plasma workspace should be excellent on launching, switching and getting > applications and it shouldn't bother the user while using those. i think it is a fine (start to a) functional goal to reach for, in that it approaches a specific u

Re: Review Request: Backport 'Fixed Lancelot build when pimlibs are not present'

2012-05-16 Thread Michael Palimaka
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104875/#review13862 --- Any objections here? - Michael Palimaka On May 6, 2012, 7:27

Review Request: powermanagementprofilesrc: slow down dimming time

2012-05-16 Thread Maurice de la Ferte
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104944/ --- Review request for Plasma and Marco Martin. Description --- This patc

request: create panel and plasma colors configuration tool

2012-05-16 Thread gnomek
Please, create panel and plasma colors, fonts and other plasma elements configuration tool. Especially I'd like to be able easily change font size, font color, active and inactive application tab color on panel, date color, kickoff fonts and color, transparency, gradient. As a new KDE user I find i

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 May 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote: > > Have you been aware of this vision? > > No. > > > If no: looking back would it have been helpful for your work if you had > > known it (and how)? > > No (I don't see how to apply it on Bl

Re: Workspace Next Sprint Organization

2012-05-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 05:24:56 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:07:08 AM Björn Balazs wrote: > > Have you been aware of this vision? > > No. > > > If no: looking back would it have been helpful for your work if you had > > known it (and how)? > > No (I don't see how to apply i