That's not at all what i tried to say.
Whatever you do in the systemtray, be extremely careful with it. You
will alienate the users extremely fast if it doesn't work out for
them.
I - personally - just don't know. I just have to see it and judge
based on that i guess :)
We can do wire
That's just fine. We can try making the default perfect and provide the
best
possible default experience. Users do not have to use the default, but
they
don't need to expect the same experience when moving away from the
defaults.
I really think this can't be said enough - as long as there
Just so my presence is known:
the icons are on their way! Its my birthday today so I thought no one will
notice if I slag off for one weekend, will they? ;)
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The issue here is not only about the length of animation but the STYLE of
animation. This is of course my own personal small tests on friends/family
(they are hardly anywhere near definitive or even scientific) but the most
hated bit isn't the speed but things like the lagging animation.
You
. To that end if you contact me (Jens Reuterberg,
j...@ohyran.se - or Jens Reuterberg on Google Plus - or jensreuterberg at the
KDE forums) any time of day, any day of the week - I will repost your request
in the forums per your instructions given.
I will make certain it either gets picked up
Right! The subforum will go live shortly. Its being set up as we speak. :) I
don't want to stress the poor forum admins right now.
Just hold on to it and I will holler when its live :)
On Saturday 08 February 2014 14.25.47 Mark Gaiser wrote:
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jens Reuterberg j
That would be awesome Luca - I just don't want to stress out poor Ben so I
think we might as well take it a tad slow. Its saturday after all :)
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With that eloquent start I wanted to say that some of you may now we now have
our project page up and running (thanks to the webteam, Alex Fiestas and the
Sysadmins) vdesign.kde.org
We also have one open group at the KDE forums
http://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=285 where anyone of you can
Sry for perhaps breaking etiquette with review requests. The
KCM are at this moment a hot topic and one of the many issues
is fragmentation vs merging of subject.
The main issue is that the settings are, as it is, an extremely
hostile area for new users. The sorting is arbitrary but justified
So with the herculian efforts of Andrew Lake, Marco and Ivan - the Plasma
Theme is available for wild testing.
I've also bundled it up with an Aurorae theme for window decorations, Qtcurve
theme for widgets, Color theme and a theme for Chrome/Chromium - now all of
this is for the light
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se wrote:
So with the herculian efforts of Andrew Lake, Marco and Ivan - the Plasma
Theme is available for wild testing.
I've also bundled it up with an Aurorae theme for window decorations,
Qtcurve
theme for widgets, Color
When you say you need all power options in one go, what exactly are you
referring to David? Could you be more specific?
Is it that you want them all visually accessible from the same dialogue?
I'm doing logout icons right now and some logout graphics - Andrew the blank
faces in the login one -
Yeah so as one of the angry designers coming here from the year 2042 - what
are the issues that hinders the SVG being colored in by the theme? I mean is
it a temporary issue or is it one that will be there forever and ever?
On Monday 07 April 2014 12.07.55 David Edmundson wrote:
On Mon, Apr 7,
Well the issue is that we have to start being careful what gets crammed in and
if too much is crammed in how to hide it away.
The point is that too many options visible would be problematic since the main
point of a login is to have a place to pick user and to write in passwords.
We could cheat
Well the slidey bit with the background might not be possible - the thing is
that it would be awesome to have that as a bit of the animation, same as using
the slidey bit in the beginning to load things before password was written in
- because then the sensation would be that the desktop
Just FYI the technical bits are waay beyond me (as most of you know) -
this is merely commenting on the design of the thing.
Krunner is, for most new users, redundant. But for those users who know of it
- or remapped it to a nicer shortcut (Meta+Space for me) Krunner is awesome.
But having
Well it could be made more useful if you could click your photo and actually
get to System Settings (if the system settings would have a tailored Personal
Appearence section this would make sense but wth)
On the other hand if the plan is to redo a launcher perhaps that is for future
...
On
On Thursday 24 April 2014 07.28.28 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Wednesday 23 April 2014 23:10:41 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On Wednesday 23 April 2014 13:58:02 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Wednesday 23 April 2014 13:53:56 David Edmundson wrote:
Right now we have an oxygen repo full of all different
ten thousand
issues along the line?
/Jens
On Thursday 24 April 2014 10.06.15 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Thursday 24 April 2014 09:38:20 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
On Thursday 24 April 2014 07.28.28 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Wednesday 23 April 2014 23:10:41 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
On Wednesday 23
For me personally I want to be able to introduce this issue to the
community so I will need exact specs on what is needed design wise for
the first version - I mean say that we need to edit the Breeze theme
for oxygen? Or perhaps edit the Oxygen standard theme to better fit the
widget theme? I
Ok I've been thinking of getting a Ask a dev thread going. As many of
you know I hope - the work is puttering on in the open forums and tbh
plans of moving all the secret work into public is well under way.
The ideal being to have a community with the VDG replaced with
Community Organizers who
Well either that or we did it a week event - I mean it's not like it's
gonna be ten thousand questions and most of them will be
considering design, layout and usability - so say if a dev promised to
pop in once a day and answer the questions that's cropped up?
:
On Monday 28 April 2014 10:54:24 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Well either that or we did it a week event - I mean it's not like
it's
gonna be ten thousand questions and most of them will be
considering design, layout and usability - so say if a dev
promised to
pop in once a day and answer
For starters to bridge the divide between community members and devs. To
make technical facts understood by the community and to, if that dev wants
to talk ideas.
Harassing him or her over past choices wouldn't help anyone so obviously
not that.
Den 28 apr 2014 16:32 skrev David Edmundson
Ok David is first to go!
I'll send you some questions so I can introduce you correctly and I'm
posting the thread and the belated monday report as soon as you
reply. :)
On Monday 28 April 2014 18.54.55 David Edmundson wrote:
OK, sign me up.
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Ah this is merely because the person who made them (Kwer I think
it was) wanted them to be called Bridge and it felt better to let
him name his baby and let branding take one for the team in this
case.
/Jens
On Tuesday 29 April 2014 11.35.10 Jonathan Riddell wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at
Personally (and I've said this before) from my point of view a name is either
a) a technical definition
b) a form of promotion
As for technical reasoning behind either name - I have little or no opinion.
This is not my field to piss in as it where. BUT for the usage of promo work
the best
Well to be honest the same can be said of Plasma 2014.5 - I mean as
long as that name is kept as a form of technical definer and never ever
near marketing and promo work.
(So Ivan, no dancing on a beach in black and white while a voice
whispers between beauty and desire, between 1337 and n00b
Well in all fairness I am all for whatever names comes up. I still think
Plasma is the way to go, skip the numbers and simply go Yeah its plasma
and if someone asks for version number you give whatever it is.
This is again something that we need to divide into
Technical and Promotion.
These
I have a pretty good report with Andreas Nilsson and he knows all the Gnome
devs and they know him so that might be a good way in... Should I try to
contact him and perhaps set up some kind of talk between one of the devs and
you Martin? See if there is something that can be worked out that
The suggestion was Try asking mclasen on irc.gnome.org #gtk+ channel.
As for who asks as long as it's no one heavily involved in the issue but
percieved as neutral but with the technical skill to explain it as well as
understand their suggestions it should be fine right?
Have there been any form of reply from them? At least something so we can gage
the level of interest in the subject?
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+1 on the idea EXCEPT we have to think how much we want to promote
Krunner? Lets face it currently Krunner is something of a poweruser thing
(which is odd but thats the way its communicated for the moment) with
extensions to it something odd and weird.
I have Meta+Space personally but thats
ctrl+space is taken by auto-completion in IDEs. You don't want to break my
workflow ;-) Alt+Space is window menu in GNOME. Maybe meta+space. For
those
remembering: what was it in Katapult?
and then can we market it like a prize winning hog at christmas?
Ok I just want to know - is it ok if we market this? Because I can see it over
and over again in a promo video... hey shut up and press key+key and then
write what you need
Seriously just a yes and I will be on this like ... like... like Der Stijl
and colorful squares of paint! (yes that was a
Tell me if you have issues moving it through and we can all try to talk with
our respective contacts and try to get them to push it a bit :)
On Friday 09 May 2014 13.20.56 David Edmundson wrote:
Pardon my ignorance, but does Gtk impose CSD on all apps, or just
those apps that opt-in to using
First bit - how about changing the logo on Ksplash minimal (that Martin K
suggested would get the gradient removed which is a great idea) to the Plasma
Logo instead of KDE logo.
Second we've come to a sort of agreement in the KDE concerning the logo for
Plasma to replace the Cashew. The idea
Wait ok so where are we with the login+splash btw?
I know Andrew mentioned the logout dialogues being fixed to but I have no idea
where/when/how.
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But when you say that, do you mean the wonky one with bars flying everywhere
for no reason or just the one with the normal login?
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(ok third time trying to send this email - so I'm loosing confidence in my
technical ability here)
Ok so, via Andrew The Mythical Design Machine Lake - heres a screen shot of
where Plasma Next is now. Yes - we in the VDG are the awesomeness and you can
buy us candy now.
Just so you can see how awesome it is right now... Yes yes, you can start
buying us in the VDG chocolate now :)
(Via Andrew The Mythical Design Machine Lake)
http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/11/loving_it.png
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Ok so obviously first attempt worked its 2:30 at night here ... but chocolate
is still preferred if you're gonna buy candy
On Sunday 11 May 2014 02.11.48 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
(ok third time trying to send this email - so I'm loosing confidence in my
technical ability here)
Ok so, via
There's an issue with the cursors though and that is that they only exist in
one size right now which is causing merry hell for people with HDPI screens
On Monday 12 May 2014 10.48.05 Marco Martin wrote:
On Monday 12 May 2014, Martin Klapetek wrote:
(supposedly new) maintainers
* icons:
Sry for being quiet here -
I'm fiddling with it (the Breeze-Oxygen color theme) this evening so expect
something with screenshots.
Also is it possible to our users a massive favour? Scrap the gradient AND the
blue highlight (I know I know I've gotten attached to it too and it was
actually
Ok so after the feedback from the Beta Release an issue that we knew was
coming have happened. Visuals being the most easily accessible bit of anything
technical, people have reacted negatively to the lack of change.
The issue WOULD be more ok from my POV if it could be contained towards me
Screenshot?
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM, David Edmundson
da...@davidedmundson.co.uk wrote:
QtCurve QStyle + Oxygen window dec is an option.
I run it here, it looks ok.
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I am already pinged and have pinged Andrew
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer colo...@autistici.orgwrote:
On Friday 16 May 2014 13:37:34 Marco Martin wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014, Marco Martin wrote:
btw, i added a small kde4 application in the breeze repo in the
One user in conversation with Uri noticed/reminded us that the icons for the
plasmoid/widgets Paste and Pastebin are identical (which isn't an issue as
much as they do essentially the same thing although it would be nice if they
used different icons) but even more problematic, the icon they do
.
Sry for missing to say that :)
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 18.56.44 Marco Martin wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014, Jens Reuterberg wrote:
One user in conversation with Uri noticed/reminded us that the icons for
the plasmoid/widgets Paste and Pastebin are identical (which isn't an
issue as much
Ok I'm on it. Have some laundry to do but will get to the office after lunch
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10.20.03 Martin Klapetek wrote:
Speaking of which - we do need one new systray icon for [1], the current
oxygen one is drive-harddisk. It shows up when you're running low on your
disk space,
Marco if you have a list send it send it :)
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 19.00.08 Marco Martin wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014, Ivan Čukić wrote:
The issue is a bit broader.
1. There are a few whose icons are overlapping (my favourite is an icon
with an analogue clock on the digital clock
http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/21/pastebin.svg
http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/21/harddrive.svg
So these two in sorta the style of fabian, do they work for now? Will do the
plasmoid preview too
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10.23.39 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Ok I'm on it. Have some laundry to do but will get
, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Jens Reuterberg j...@ohyran.se wrote:
http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/21/pastebin.svg
http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/21/harddrive.svg
So these two in sorta the style of fabian, do they work for now? Will do
the
plasmoid preview too
Harddrive is great, thanks! /me
21:37:19 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/21/pastebin.svg
http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/21/harddrive.svg
So these two in sorta the style of fabian, do they work for now? Will do
the plasmoid preview too
is pastebin ok for being displayed very small too?
should be ok till
Haha! That was AWESOME! ok okokok I wanna do that!
On Thursday 22 May 2014 21.54.33 Marco Martin wrote:
what about the paperclip bended in cloud shape?
(admittely this attempt isn't that great, but maybe can be evolved a bit)
On Thursday 22 May 2014, Jens wrote:
I already tried it and it
Then just leave the bomb? We probably have more important issues than this.
No, we don't. It may seem really silly and tiny (I completely agree, I don't
even understand why the icon is there - but as Martin said, every window has
an icon). But these are the things that add up. If we don't
Qtcurve in its
entirety if they want?
/Jens
On Thursday 19 June 2014 14.20.06 Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote:
On 06/17/2014 10:56 AM, Marco Martin wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Marco Martin
notm...@gmail.com
mailto:notm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2014 11:39:00 Jens
Ok so I have to ask (because my mum once told me as a child, slow people ask a
lot of questions - but only complete idiots don't) :)
Place be nice.
Wouldn't it be possible to have the wallpaper picker pick the login wallpaper
as well? I mean say I choose a wallpaper with a photo of a dog or
be smaller in resolution (to save on space I guess) since,
using gaussian blur removes all detail anyway and the resolution becomes
almost meaningless.
(Granted I know close to nothing about the subject - just wondering why that
wouldn't work)
On Monday 23 June 2014 08.42.27 Jens Reuterberg wrote
Someone said branding so I appeared like a Bloody Mary figure in the mirror.
Why not Plasma 4? Or Plasma Past? I mean in all honesty the issue isn't that
big except from a communicative aspect (in which case Plasma Past, Former
Plasma etc are all good) or a technical aspect (in which case the
to be a revisionist rarely works.
Jonathan
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 11:44:32AM +0200, Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Someone said branding so I appeared like a Bloody Mary figure in the
mirror.
Why not Plasma 4? Or Plasma Past? I mean in all honesty the issue isn't
that big except from a communicative
No objections just a massive thumbs up!
On Wednesday 01 October 2014 16.21.03 Andrew Lake wrote:
For anyone using the breeze dark theme, I've been meaning for a while to
make some adjustments so that the edges aren't quite so pronounced and
high
contrast. It looks this way because it's
[silently cheering you on!]
On Thursday 02 October 2014 19.23.17 Aleix Pol wrote:
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Aleix Pol aleix...@kde.org wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to have it moved to get it released with the Plasma 5.2 release,
so no rush. I think though it's a good match as I think KDE has
Sry for a late reply (sick and been sleeping) but the one
Harald Sitter and I fiddled with during Akademy was kinda
nice where it used a blurred version of your wallpaper.
1) It didn't reveal the nature of your wallpaper (we tested,
extensively)
2) It creates the sensation of fading to desktop
Oh you're thinking of Client Side Decorations, not DWD's.
On Wednesday 22 October 2014 17.25.33 Christoph Feck wrote:
On Wednesday 22 October 2014 16:37:26 Jonathan Riddell wrote:
-Jens announced Dynamic Window Decoration, an idea of using
server side decoations with widgets in the
Martin is totally to blame I think. I remember, if it was a few days ago when
it essentially was a large, communal AHAAA moment. Which is sort of the
reason for DWD as a term for it.
We need to communicate the relevant differences for the technical reasons
behind not using CSD's but also that
Well there was talk about some easy way to edit colors and spacing of
individual SVG-files (I mean it IS reaaally complex to edit themes)...
Might be worth looking into?
Pedro: I can only suggest that you try to edit them in Karbon instead
of Inkscape since it contains a better sorting of
On Monday 05 January 2015 01:34:17 Aleix Pol wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer
thomas.pfeif...@kde.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
while writing up a vision for Plasma interaction, the VDG noticed
that it
was unclear exactly what terms to use when referring to Plasma
Desktop
One idea could be to use the size differences and placement mean something.
Say that I have five windows open, one that I use constantly and one that keep
checking out every now and then - the placement that would make most
sense then is to make sure that I as a user can quickest focus on the
Well just as a suggestion can't we post something like please
remember to check your local laws concerning official
buildings and people and then IF someone hands over an
image of an official building then we can ask them.
I mean there's no point burning the house down to protect it
from
in
with legal issues and that its GPL we're going with license wise
and not stress out about to much at this early stage,
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 02:00:23 PM Martin Klapetek
wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Jens Reuterberg
j...@ohyran.se wrote:
Well just as a suggestion can't we
I think its a lot more complex - because in reality what is KDE? If KDE is
ment to be a set of applications which also have a desktop available then the
applications should be able to set preferred browser or if nothing else pick
up what browser is preferred by the desktop (unless stated
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Bhushan:
- working on apps, first off comic book reader
-
On Friday, August 21, 2015 09:13:11 PM Andrew Lake wrote:
My own opinion, having written the original code, is that we should simply
remove it altogether. I consider it an extreme corner case for
customization that, at best, belongs in a Plasma theme creation tool, not
system settings.
Perhaps link to the toolkit in the HIG?
Den 23 aug 2015 10:34 fm skrev Alex Merry alex.me...@kde.org:
Techbase has a page titled Plasma Interface Guidelines[0]. Leaving
aside the unfortunate acronym, this page is sparsely populated and last
edited in 2012. It is also linked from the
of the icon when
in systray is kinda off it seems in the screenshots (the line is thinner in the
other icons, 1px I think) and the icon itself is too big taking over a large
chunk of the intended padding. Maybe those are connected? I'll ping Uri and
double check
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PRESENT: Ivan, Sebas, Thomas and Jens
MEETING GOAL:
write up a vision statement for Plasma Mobile and talk about the early work of
the Plasma Mobile HIG and design goals.
The vision we ended with, after much debate of different wordings, what should
and shouldn't be included in a vision
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-
Hello,
concerning fonts - the choice of fonts is always a tricky call. Aside from an
exact, and more feature complete version of Oxygen which sadly doesn't exist,
Noto is the perfect choice for us.
It's a very well made standardized font and the only other contender was the
Firefox Fira IIRC
Hello,
concerning fonts - the choice of fonts is always a tricky call. Aside from an
exact, and more feature complete version of Oxygen which sadly doesn't exist,
Noto is the perfect choice for us.
It's a very well made standardized font and the only other contender was the
Firefox Fira IIRC
As the one responsible for the logo work (since Uri who made that and other
bits is in the VDG) I should probably shime in here.
The three dots and the arrow is simply because of the connections to the K
logo. The reasoning for it is to make it flexible (do note that we came in
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> Marco Martin wrote:
> yeah, it's not adjusting backgroundcontrast, that may need fixing somehow
> and that's *also* why is not exactly the same color
>
> Jens Reuterberg wrote:
> Note in general - as someone who dislike contrast at night - that is
>
Addendum from me:
I'm working on some nice infopgraphic for "How to do a bugreport" - the idea
being that it should be inviting, simple and suggesting different paths to
contact devs in a good and friendly way.
The notes I have so far about it is:
1) How to get the relevant data about the bug
comes second.
that part IMHO needs rework
[16:04] or "devices"
On Monday, 4 April 2016 16:05:25 CEST Jens Reuterberg wrote:
> Ok so some good criticism from IRC that I thought I should document here for
> posterity:
>
> [15:57] - criticism: "Plasma is not good enoug
cted to when it comes to words I feel - I may be wrong of course these
are just my reasonings)
On Monday, 4 April 2016 15:04:30 CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> On 4 April 2016 at 14:58, Jens Reuterberg <jens...@kolabnow.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for feedback! :)
> >
> >&g
bshah: would "performant user interface" work better?
[16:01] depends on if we consider Plasma technology or user
interface..
[16:01] sebas: yeah true, should we soften the "professional" bit?
[16:02] yes, please try (not sure it'll work, but I'm curious what you
can come up w
Thanks for feedback! :)
> First, it looks very professional, nice :)
> one thing tough , is the underline of the words, the red underline may look
> like a spellcheck error (i'm wondering if something else could be used
> instead of an underline, like bullets, those icons in small, or just a
>
On the one hand I fell in love with the word "nimble" (We have to do something
cool based on words like "nimble" and "swift" one day - I don't know what but
I will bribe you till you do it Sebas, we can't let those two words get to
some marketing department somewhere)
On the other David has
> As you walked me trough the design a bit before, I think the design is quite
> reasonable and feasible (i have doubts only on the semitransparent session
> switcher, it may have to be baked in the lockscreen for now instead, but
> those are just small details right now)
>
Yes added an
From Grub-to-shutdown, a unified experience
GOAL OF PROJECT:
To create one sensation from grub to shutdown, where the user whenever she is
outside of the desktop environment and interacting with the parts needed to
make the desktop environment make sense feel like she is part of one unified
Please note that the green buttons in SDDM and Lockscreen will change to
proper Plasma buttons instead of wide green ones.
Here is the Pholio page which might be valuable to keep an eye on
https://phabricator.kde.org/M58
On Monday, 25 July 2016 12:24:56 CEST Jens Reuterberg wrote:
> From G
I would make a bugreport of it.
(Also I notice that you have a few icons there that don't come with any
padding at all (like trojita icons (hmm you've managed to sort out multiple
IMAP accounts?) and the weird circle one)) which is something we simply can't
fix except by actively fixing all
IRC is too uncommon to be "ship by default" - Cantata is not relevant enough
and VLC will work as that if needed, or something more simplistic would be
good (and Luca's criticism is relevant as the distro maintainers for distros
more focused on software freedom would have massive issues).
The
as "buttons moving around
between KCM's" is a no brainer UI wise to fix. When one button which does the
same thing is flung across the screen this cause all other fixes to the layout
to be more or less meaningless.
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