[Powerdevil] [Bug 357456] While using "When laptop lid closed: Lock screen" setting, screen is not also turned off, which wastes power

2023-11-05 Thread Natalie Clarius 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357456

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 357456] While using "When laptop lid closed: Lock screen" setting, screen is not also turned off, which wastes power

2023-11-05 Thread Natalie Clarius 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357456

--- Comment #7 from Natalie Clarius  ---
Not the exact same thing you're requesting but FWIW, in Plasma 6.0 you'll be
able configure the screen to automatically turn off after a certain time when
the screen is locked.

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Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-08-05 Thread Natalie Clarius 
 
I find it a useful indication of how common an issue really is and hence how 
important it is to solve, and am surprised that some would not. How else are 
users supposed to express that a bug affects them, without creating duplicates 
and "me too" comments which I as a submitter would think of as spammy?
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 07:52:36 -0600
From: Nate Graham 
To: kde-devel , Plasma 
Subject: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
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Hello folks!

I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets 
are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help 
prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, 
as it's not obvious.

I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the 
voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression.

So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what 
tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you!


Nate


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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 21:57:16 +0800
From: Fusion Future 
To: Nate Graham , kde-devel , Plasma
    
Subject: Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
    decisions?
Message-ID: <157fcc1b-c3d6-40b7-aa44-d05baa0ea...@gmail.com>
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I do vote on Bugzilla, but given the limited development resource, I 
find vote less useful than the number of duplicates or CCs.


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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 15:42:45 +0100
From: Jonathan Riddell 
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Subject: Plasma plasma-desktop 5.27.7.1 update
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for packaging
sha256sum: 51626674ce4324ac424fded716862da967e6b33a898108b49fa27a7896d1bec2
Git commit: d9f39abdb402a81465dca79c791a229778e97efb

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Never looked at them. Never seen the benefit.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham  wrote:
>
> Hello folks!
>
> I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets
> are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help
> prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise,
> as it's not obvious.
>
> I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the
> voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression.
>
> So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what
> tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you!
>
>
> Nate


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Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-08-05 Thread Natalie Clarius 
 Looks like my first message didn't make it into the list yet, this was in 
response to my:
> I find it a useful indication of how common an issue really is and hence how 
> important it is to solve, and am surprised that some would not. How else are 
> users supposed to express that a bug affects them, without creating 
> duplicates and "me too" comments which I as a submitter would think of as 
> spammy?

Re. "I am an adult, I can set my own priorities"; I can see how that rationale 
applies to contributors who do this for fun, but at least as far as I'm 
concerned, I want an objective indication of what tasks have priority, and 
minimum number of peope affected as indicated by votes is one such measure.
Am Samstag, 5. August 2023 um 20:00:13 MESZ hat Natalie Clarius 
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 OTOH, if the reality is that many developers don't and won't consider votes, 
it may be better to turn the feature off after all to indicate that it has no 
value and users are expected to duplicate reports if they want their feedback 
to be considered.
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      decisions? (Fusion Future)
  3. Plasma plasma-desktop 5.27.7.1 update (Jonathan Riddell)
  4. Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
      decisions? (Harald Sitter)


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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 07:52:36 -0600
From: Nate Graham 
To: kde-devel , Plasma 
Subject: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
    decisions?
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Hello folks!

I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets 
are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help 
prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, 
as it's not obvious.

I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the 
voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression.

So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what 
tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you!


Nate


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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 21:57:16 +0800
From: Fusion Future 
To: Nate Graham , kde-devel , Plasma
    
Subject: Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
    decisions?
Message-ID: <157fcc1b-c3d6-40b7-aa44-d05baa0ea...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I do vote on Bugzilla, but given the limited development resource, I 
find vote less useful than the number of duplicates or CCs.


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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 15:42:45 +0100
From: Jonathan Riddell 
To: kde-annou...@kde.org, KDE release coordination
    ,  plasma-devel 
Subject: Plasma plasma-desktop 5.27.7.1 update
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plasma-desktop now has plasma-desktop-5.27.7.1 tar available to download
for packaging
sha256sum: 51626674ce4324ac424fded716862da967e6b33a898108b49fa27a7896d1bec2
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Never looked at them. Never seen the benefit.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham  wrote:
>
> Hello folks!
>
> I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets
> are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help
> prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise,
> as it's not obvious.
>
> I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the
> voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression.
>
> So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what

Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make decisions?

2023-08-05 Thread Natalie Clarius 
OTOH, if the reality is that many developers don't and won't consider votes, it 
may be better to turn the feature off after all to indicate that it has no 
value and users are expected to duplicate reports if they want their feedback 
to be considered.
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  1. Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
      decisions? (Nate Graham)
  2. Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
      decisions? (Fusion Future)
  3. Plasma plasma-desktop 5.27.7.1 update (Jonathan Riddell)
  4. Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
      decisions? (Harald Sitter)


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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 07:52:36 -0600
From: Nate Graham 
To: kde-devel , Plasma 
Subject: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
    decisions?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Hello folks!

I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets 
are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help 
prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise, 
as it's not obvious.

I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the 
voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression.

So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what 
tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you!


Nate


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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 21:57:16 +0800
From: Fusion Future 
To: Nate Graham , kde-devel , Plasma
    
Subject: Re: Do you use votes on Bugzilla tickets to help you make
    decisions?
Message-ID: <157fcc1b-c3d6-40b7-aa44-d05baa0ea...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I do vote on Bugzilla, but given the limited development resource, I 
find vote less useful than the number of duplicates or CCs.


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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 15:42:45 +0100
From: Jonathan Riddell 
To: kde-annou...@kde.org, KDE release coordination
    ,  plasma-devel 
Subject: Plasma plasma-desktop 5.27.7.1 update
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

plasma-desktop now has plasma-desktop-5.27.7.1 tar available to download
for packaging
sha256sum: 51626674ce4324ac424fded716862da967e6b33a898108b49fa27a7896d1bec2
Git commit: d9f39abdb402a81465dca79c791a229778e97efb

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Never looked at them. Never seen the benefit.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 3:53 PM Nate Graham  wrote:
>
> Hello folks!
>
> I often find myself explaining to users that votes on Bugzilla tickets
> are generally meaningless and not used by most developers to help
> prioritize work. After I explain this, they generally express surprise,
> as it's not obvious.
>
> I find myself wondering whether it would make sense to disable the
> voting feature by default to avoid giving our users this false impression.
>
> So if you *do* take user votes into consideration when determining what
> tickets to prioritize, I'd like to hear from you!
>
>
> Nate


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