Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
Dnia niedziela, 29 lipca 2012 o 17:05:24 Kevin Krammer napisał(a): On Saturday, 2012-07-28, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: I get: The module 'org.kde' is not installed Any hints? Not being able to save the tasks between Plasma sessions is a bit of a dealbreaker for a ToDo plasmoid... ;) I think some of those are part of the kdeqmlplugin which is part of kdepim- runtime. Maybe it wasn't built or installed properly. Apparently, I would need to have 4.8 installed here, I only have 4.7. For now implemented saving task status to config with a nasty JSON.stringify() call. It works and it's not even that costly, performance-wise. Anyway, the Tasker aka Perfect ToDo-oid is now published and online, comments and suggestions welcome: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=152988 Thanks for all your help. -- Pozdrawiam Michał rysiek Woźniak Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
On Monday, 2012-07-30, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: Dnia niedziela, 29 lipca 2012 o 17:05:24 Kevin Krammer napisał(a): On Saturday, 2012-07-28, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: I get: The module 'org.kde' is not installed Any hints? Not being able to save the tasks between Plasma sessions is a bit of a dealbreaker for a ToDo plasmoid... ;) I think some of those are part of the kdeqmlplugin which is part of kdepim- runtime. Maybe it wasn't built or installed properly. Apparently, I would need to have 4.8 installed here, I only have 4.7. This is strange, the directory was added in April 2010, so it should even be part of kdepim-runtime 4.6 More interestingly I have it in my install from source prefix but not in the one from packages (4.8) so it could be a packaging problem. Could be the same for you, maybe contact the distributor's KDE team. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
On Monday, 2012-07-30, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Monday, 2012-07-30, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: Dnia niedziela, 29 lipca 2012 o 17:05:24 Kevin Krammer napisał(a): On Saturday, 2012-07-28, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: I get: The module 'org.kde' is not installed Any hints? Not being able to save the tasks between Plasma sessions is a bit of a dealbreaker for a ToDo plasmoid... ;) I think some of those are part of the kdeqmlplugin which is part of kdepim- runtime. Maybe it wasn't built or installed properly. Apparently, I would need to have 4.8 installed here, I only have 4.7. This is strange, the directory was added in April 2010, so it should even be part of kdepim-runtime 4.6 More interestingly I have it in my install from source prefix but not in the one from packages (4.8) so it could be a packaging problem. Actually I was wrong on this one, I have kdepim-runtime 4.4 (Debian/Unstable), so it can't have that plugin yet. Could be the same for you, maybe contact the distributor's KDE team. Unless you are also on Debian this still stands though. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
Dnia poniedziałek, 30 lipca 2012 o 14:49:03 Kevin Krammer napisał(a): On Monday, 2012-07-30, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Monday, 2012-07-30, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: Dnia niedziela, 29 lipca 2012 o 17:05:24 Kevin Krammer napisał(a): On Saturday, 2012-07-28, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: I get: The module 'org.kde' is not installed Any hints? Not being able to save the tasks between Plasma sessions is a bit of a dealbreaker for a ToDo plasmoid... ;) I think some of those are part of the kdeqmlplugin which is part of kdepim- runtime. Maybe it wasn't built or installed properly. Apparently, I would need to have 4.8 installed here, I only have 4.7. This is strange, the directory was added in April 2010, so it should even be part of kdepim-runtime 4.6 More interestingly I have it in my install from source prefix but not in the one from packages (4.8) so it could be a packaging problem. Actually I was wrong on this one, I have kdepim-runtime 4.4 (Debian/Unstable), so it can't have that plugin yet. Could be the same for you, maybe contact the distributor's KDE team. Unless you are also on Debian this still stands though. Yes, Debian Unstable (or, to be precise, Aptosid). I would also love any comments on the plasmoid itself, if you had a chance of testing it. -- Pozdrawiam Michał rysiek Woźniak Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
On Saturday, 2012-07-28, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: Dnia piątek, 20 lipca 2012 o 09:35:35 Kevin Krammer napisał(a): On Thursday, 2012-07-19, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: Hi again, Got entangled in a lot of other work, finally getting back to the QML/JS ToDo plasmoid of mine. I still cannot find any docs on accessing the calendar (either directly or through Akonadi) from QML/JS. I would appreciate any hints/links on that - is that at all possible?.. Check if some of the stuff in kdepim/mobile/tasks can help you with that. It looks promising, but when I try to copy the imports: import Qt 4.7 as QML import org.kde 4.5 import org.kde.akonadi 4.5 as Akonadi import org.kde.pim.mobileui 4.5 as KPIM import org.kde.kcal 4.5 as KCal import org.kde.akonadi.tasks 4.5 as Tasks I get: The module 'org.kde' is not installed Any hints? Not being able to save the tasks between Plasma sessions is a bit of a dealbreaker for a ToDo plasmoid... ;) I think some of those are part of the kdeqmlplugin which is part of kdepim- runtime. Maybe it wasn't built or installed properly. Some modules will come from code in kdepim/mobile itself, no idea whether they got installed as QML plugins or registered by the mobile apps' C++ code. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
Dnia piątek, 20 lipca 2012 o 09:35:35 Kevin Krammer napisał(a): On Thursday, 2012-07-19, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: Hi again, Got entangled in a lot of other work, finally getting back to the QML/JS ToDo plasmoid of mine. I still cannot find any docs on accessing the calendar (either directly or through Akonadi) from QML/JS. I would appreciate any hints/links on that - is that at all possible?.. Check if some of the stuff in kdepim/mobile/tasks can help you with that. It looks promising, but when I try to copy the imports: import Qt 4.7 as QML import org.kde 4.5 import org.kde.akonadi 4.5 as Akonadi import org.kde.pim.mobileui 4.5 as KPIM import org.kde.kcal 4.5 as KCal import org.kde.akonadi.tasks 4.5 as Tasks I get: The module 'org.kde' is not installed Any hints? Not being able to save the tasks between Plasma sessions is a bit of a dealbreaker for a ToDo plasmoid... ;) -- Pozdrawiam Michał rysiek Woźniak Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
On Thursday, 2012-07-19, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote: Hi again, Got entangled in a lot of other work, finally getting back to the QML/JS ToDo plasmoid of mine. I still cannot find any docs on accessing the calendar (either directly or through Akonadi) from QML/JS. I would appreciate any hints/links on that - is that at all possible?.. Check if some of the stuff in kdepim/mobile/tasks can help you with that. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
Hi again, Got entangled in a lot of other work, finally getting back to the QML/JS ToDo plasmoid of mine. I still cannot find any docs on accessing the calendar (either directly or through Akonadi) from QML/JS. I would appreciate any hints/links on that - is that at all possible?.. Thanks! -- Pozdrawiam Michał rysiek Woźniak Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
On Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:14:13 Djuro Drljaca wrote: Hello, as far as I know it is very important to know where you tested it. If you only tested it in the plasmoidveiwer then this is probably the reason it doesn't work. .. which would mean the plasmoid has a bug and needs to implement configChanged. -- Aaron J. Seigo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
Hi there, Thanks for all the answers, I was travelling and couldn't get back on this sooner. Dnia niedziela, 15 kwietnia 2012 o 10:14:13 Djuro Drljaca napisał(a): as far as I know it is very important to know where you tested it. If you only tested it in the plasmoidveiwer then this is probably the reason it doesn't work. Install the plasmoid on the system and try it there ... then I think it probably will work. Yes, you were right. Indeed, when added to the plasma desktop the config does work. Thanks! Dnia niedziela, 15 kwietnia 2012 o 18:22:52 Mark napisał(a): If you're making a qml only plasmoid then KCal is not possible since it doesn't have a qml binding (as far as I know...). Well, I am trying to stick with QML/JS. I have absolutely no experience with C++ and learning it just to write a plasmoid seems an overkill... Dnia niedziela, 15 kwietnia 2012 o 18:45:11 Kevin Krammer napisał(a): In either case using KDE's todo classes is certainly the right way to go, since it will allow the applet to show/edit data created by other todo/task handling applications such as KOrganizer or Zanshin (http://zanshin.kde.org/) Zanshin looks great, thanks for the info. And yes, using something that would talk with the Calendar seems a great idea. Problem is, I cannot find any documentation on doing that in QML/JS. The Kontact touch related directories in kdepim could be helpful here, i.e. those are QML based user interfaces for components that are traditionally part of the Kontact suite. Where can I find those. Since Todos/Tasks are another subtype of calendar entry (like event) some of the calendar Plasma integration points might be a good start as well. Any link? Can't find that anywhere. Dnia czwartek, 19 kwietnia 2012 o 18:32:06 Anton Kreuzkamp napisał(a): Just read your notes on what it should be able to do. I don't know what the akonadi-kcal-solution is able to do. Probably not quite everything you want... O..k. Any docs on it? I recommend you to get in touch with the kdepim-gurus and get to know what it is able to do and eventually (ideally) how to get the missing parts inside akonadi directly, as this is where it belongs. Thanks, will try. PS: that means I can delete one item from my todo-list, which is Create Akonadi-based Todo-Plasmoid. Yay! :) Hey, I haven't done it yet! ;) -- Pozdrawiam Michał rysiek Woźniak Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
On Sunday, April 15, 2012 18:22:52 Mark wrote: If you're making a qml only plasmoid then KCal is not possible since it doesn't have a qml binding (as far as I know...). The calendar-dataengine has support for todo-items, as they're handled as just another type of calendar-entries. You should use that. It uses Akonadi (I guess KCal does the same, or Akonadi uses KCal) and thus the data will be available all over KDE and it will be possible to store data remotely, for free. The dataengine can easily be used from within QML. Cheers, Anton ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Re: Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
Just read your notes on what it should be able to do. I don't know what the akonadi-kcal-solution is able to do. Probably not quite everything you want... I recommend you to get in touch with the kdepim-gurus and get to know what it is able to do and eventually (ideally) how to get the missing parts inside akonadi directly, as this is where it belongs. Cheers, Anton PS: that means I can delete one item from my todo-list, which is Create Akonadi-based Todo-Plasmoid. Yay! :) ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
Hello, as far as I know it is very important to know where you tested it. If you only tested it in the plasmoidveiwer then this is probably the reason it doesn't work. Install the plasmoid on the system and try it there ... then I think it probably will work. Regards, Djuro Drljaca On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak rys...@fwioo.plwrote: Hello, I have already written to this list and some of you might know me from other channels (like IRC or StatusNet). Either way - hi and hello! Also, I hope I am writing in the right place. If not, do tell and point me in the right direction. Now, to the point! I am writing a Todo/tasks plasmoid, inspired by TaskTimer. Here's my braindump about it: http://rys.io/en/71 One thing I am missing at this moment, and am missing dearly, is a way to save the state of the tasks (text, elapsed time, etc) so that it gets restored upon plasmoid restart (not sure if this is the right word). This can be easily done with a simple JSON text file, or even an INI file for that matter. So basically what I need is either a config store or a way to read/write pure text files. I tried using the KConfig XT, but surprisingly the values did not get saved (yes, main.xml file is created and contains the right stuff); this happened even with the kdeexamples configuration example. Besides, I am wondering if the rigid structure of KConfig XT files is a good bet here; I am adding/removing todo items in the plasmoid, and as far as I understand config entries are defined beforehand - so I would have to store key-value pairs (in JSON?) within the config XML file. Doesn't seem right. So, three questions: - am I missing something about the KConfig XT approach? - maybe there is a better config API for QML/JS plasmoids? - is there a way to read/write files from a QML/JS plasmoid? I am running KDE SC 4.7.4 in Debian Sid. -- Pozdrawiam Michał rysiek Woźniak Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
Op 15 apr. 2012 02:20 schreef Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak rys...@fwioo.pl het volgende: Hello, I have already written to this list and some of you might know me from other channels (like IRC or StatusNet). Either way - hi and hello! Also, I hope I am writing in the right place. If not, do tell and point me in the right direction. Now, to the point! I am writing a Todo/tasks plasmoid, inspired by TaskTimer. Here's my braindump about it: http://rys.io/en/71 One thing I am missing at this moment, and am missing dearly, is a way to save the state of the tasks (text, elapsed time, etc) so that it gets restored upon plasmoid restart (not sure if this is the right word). This can be easily done with a simple JSON text file, or even an INI file for that matter. So basically what I need is either a config store or a way to read/write pure text files. I tried using the KConfig XT, but surprisingly the values did not get saved (yes, main.xml file is created and contains the right stuff); this happened even with the kdeexamples configuration example. Besides, I am wondering if the rigid structure of KConfig XT files is a good bet here; I am adding/removing todo items in the plasmoid, and as far as I understand config entries are defined beforehand - so I would have to store key-value pairs (in JSON?) within the config XML file. Doesn't seem right. So, three questions: - am I missing something about the KConfig XT approach? - maybe there is a better config API for QML/JS plasmoids? - is there a way to read/write files from a QML/JS plasmoid? I am running KDE SC 4.7.4 in Debian Sid. -- Pozdrawiam Michał rysiek Woźniak Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel Hi, I can't really answer your questions since I don't know the answer. However, I do would like to point you to perhaps some interesting ways to store your data. Once you start using Qt5 you can use qtjsondb to store your data. The option (and best option) you have right now is to use akanodi with the KCal class http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdepimlibs-apidocs/kcal/html/index.html . It implements the I calendar specification and also has support for todo items. Using the KCal classes will also make them show in any app that uses KCal. If you're making a qml only plasmoid then KCal is not possible since it doesn't have a qml binding (as far as I know...). Just letting you know :) Mark ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Re: Files, config, and welcome (again)
On Sunday, 2012-04-15, Mark wrote: The option (and best option) you have right now is to use akanodi with the KCal class http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdepimlibs-apidocs/kcal/html/index.html . It implements the I calendar specification and also has support for todo items. Using the KCal classes will also make them show in any app that uses KCal. Very true, though it might be better to use the respective KCalCore equivalents, those are cleaned up implementations. In either case using KDE's todo classes is certainly the right way to go, since it will allow the applet to show/edit data created by other todo/task handling applications such as KOrganizer or Zanshin (http://zanshin.kde.org/) If you're making a qml only plasmoid then KCal is not possible since it doesn't have a qml binding (as far as I know...). The Kontact touch related directories in kdepim could be helpful here, i.e. those are QML based user interfaces for components that are traditionally part of the Kontact suite. Since Todos/Tasks are another subtype of calendar entry (like event) some of the calendar Plasma integration points might be a good start as well. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
Files, config, and welcome (again)
Hello, I have already written to this list and some of you might know me from other channels (like IRC or StatusNet). Either way - hi and hello! Also, I hope I am writing in the right place. If not, do tell and point me in the right direction. Now, to the point! I am writing a Todo/tasks plasmoid, inspired by TaskTimer. Here's my braindump about it: http://rys.io/en/71 One thing I am missing at this moment, and am missing dearly, is a way to save the state of the tasks (text, elapsed time, etc) so that it gets restored upon plasmoid restart (not sure if this is the right word). This can be easily done with a simple JSON text file, or even an INI file for that matter. So basically what I need is either a config store or a way to read/write pure text files. I tried using the KConfig XT, but surprisingly the values did not get saved (yes, main.xml file is created and contains the right stuff); this happened even with the kdeexamples configuration example. Besides, I am wondering if the rigid structure of KConfig XT files is a good bet here; I am adding/removing todo items in the plasmoid, and as far as I understand config entries are defined beforehand - so I would have to store key-value pairs (in JSON?) within the config XML file. Doesn't seem right. So, three questions: - am I missing something about the KConfig XT approach? - maybe there is a better config API for QML/JS plasmoids? - is there a way to read/write files from a QML/JS plasmoid? I am running KDE SC 4.7.4 in Debian Sid. -- Pozdrawiam Michał rysiek Woźniak Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
