Akademy Plasma BOF notes
* Incompatible changes in Plasma Framework 6 (Marco Martin) * Marco has several branches * https://invent.kde.org/mart/plasma-frameworkhttps://invent.kde.org/mart/plasma-framework(https://invent.kde.org/mart/plasma-framework) work/mart/pf6 * agreement on the AppletRepresentation as base * agreement for views instantiated in qml in shells * branch from the fork imported on main p-f repo * TODO Marco will look into how we can make the changes so that porting is easy(ish) * TODO Marco will try to have in plasma5 the mandatory appletrepresentation base for plasmoids so we can start to port them in plasma5 times * changing the way to do plasmoids settings, still not cleart what to do on that * System Settings vs Plasma-settings (i.e. Plasma Mobile) * we want Plasma Settings on Plasma 6, meaning no widget kcm support at all * TODO David Edmundson is creating a task to see missing features * https://phabricator.kde.org/tag/plasma_kcm_redesign/(https://phabricator.kde.org/tag/plasma_kcm_redesign/) * QML KWin effects, present windows and gestures (Nicolas Fella) * couple of ongoing efforts * vlad merged an integration of thumbnails in qml * TODO try to contact authors of the 3rd party parachute effect https://github.com/tcorreabr/Parachute * needs also vdg involvement for eventual present windows redesign * is kdeclarative dependency in kwin is necessary? * Plasma 5.23 Kickoff (Johnathan Riddell) * 5.22 review * we were happy besides the release script breaking the builds * Freeze adjustments * We will start to note in the wiki when the frameworks freeze will happen * Promo review * beta promo was a bit bad, final promo was really good, except the video arrived a week later, what can we so to help? * schedule a bof with promo * Release: move 2 days, to have 14th of october * skip version and say .25? * perhaps better calling it officially “kde anniversary edition” in branding * What happened to the trialled monthly meetings? (David R) let’s try again! * sprints? let’s try one in september, still online * Plasma 6: are we happy with plasma-desktop/plasma-workspace/kde-plasmaaddons as a split and moving forwards? (David E) * many kcms got there because evil krdb entangles everything together, krdb should eventually disappear and ported to something using kconfigwatchers instead of the same cpp file getting included * needing a bit of a functional split in plasma-workspace to have more smaller repos, though it may risk some distros messing deps giving incomplete installations, so not oversplit * Desktop Containment cardinality (both within Plasma5 and Plasma 6) (Nate) * should be something solved with activities somehow * see if having a different view per desktop is really that wasteful on resources * Plasma major bugs - what is open, what are our action plans (David E) (search function inside dolphin not working properly - mounted drivers) * Is the Plasma team communicating enough? * Coordinating with Latte Dock https://phabricator.kde.org/T12433(https://phabricator.kde.org/T12433) * lower barrier of entry for users to test it * in-process: thing for plasma6? * they have the same problems we are having wrt multiscreen: currentscreenid causes loss of data * they are interested in the plasma::theme to Kirigami::theme migration because they want to have panels colored with the current window palette that can be differentfrom system (ie krita with a dark theme on a light theme system) timeframe is Plasma6 and Kirigami::Theme needs to be expanded * add a lattedock in contextual add panel item
Re: Akademy Plasma Bof
I have booked all Friday morning for a super fun activity. Group bug triage! It'll be more fun than it sounds. Albeit that is quite a low bar to beat :) David
Re: Akademy Plasma Bof
editable link, *should* be: https://share.kde.org/apps/files/?dir=/Plasma%20scratchpad=2007437 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:59 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > trying again, with a link which hopefully works: > https://share.kde.org/s/ixNaQxyybz2NHpE > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:48 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > > > I started a very sparsely populated notepad here: > > https://share.kde.org/apps/files/?dir=/Plasma%20scratchpad=2007437 > > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:26 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:13 PM Nicolas Fella wrote: > > > >> in terms of topics I'd like to discuss how some recent efforts > > > >> integrate > > > > and depend on each other. In particular the long-proposed rewrite of > > > > present windows ties into the ongoing work on the scene and effects API > > > > redesign and QtQuick integration. This also ties into the realtime > > > > gesture work by Janet > > > > > > I have booked Wednesday, the 3 hours 16 17 and 18 > > > if anybody feels isn't enough feel free to book further time > > > > > > Do we need shared notes for collecting topics? -- Marco Martin
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trying again, with a link which hopefully works: https://share.kde.org/s/ixNaQxyybz2NHpE On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:48 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > I started a very sparsely populated notepad here: > https://share.kde.org/apps/files/?dir=/Plasma%20scratchpad=2007437 > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:26 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:13 PM Nicolas Fella wrote: > > >> in terms of topics I'd like to discuss how some recent efforts integrate > > > and depend on each other. In particular the long-proposed rewrite of > > > present windows ties into the ongoing work on the scene and effects API > > > redesign and QtQuick integration. This also ties into the realtime > > > gesture work by Janet > > > > I have booked Wednesday, the 3 hours 16 17 and 18 > > if anybody feels isn't enough feel free to book further time > > > > Do we need shared notes for collecting topics?
Re: Akademy Plasma Bof
I started a very sparsely populated notepad here: https://share.kde.org/apps/files/?dir=/Plasma%20scratchpad=2007437 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 10:26 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:13 PM Nicolas Fella wrote: > >> in terms of topics I'd like to discuss how some recent efforts integrate > > and depend on each other. In particular the long-proposed rewrite of > > present windows ties into the ongoing work on the scene and effects API > > redesign and QtQuick integration. This also ties into the realtime > > gesture work by Janet > > I have booked Wednesday, the 3 hours 16 17 and 18 > if anybody feels isn't enough feel free to book further time > > Do we need shared notes for collecting topics?
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On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 9:13 PM Nicolas Fella wrote: >> in terms of topics I'd like to discuss how some recent efforts integrate > and depend on each other. In particular the long-proposed rewrite of > present windows ties into the ongoing work on the scene and effects API > redesign and QtQuick integration. This also ties into the realtime > gesture work by Janet I have booked Wednesday, the 3 hours 16 17 and 18 if anybody feels isn't enough feel free to book further time Do we need shared notes for collecting topics?
Re: Akademy Plasma Bof
On 07/06/2021 10:42, Marco Martin wrote: Hi all, Do we want a plasma bof at akademy? often we do a full day one, which may or may not be useful, depending on what topic we do have. Personally i would like to make one about plasma 6 Any day/time preference? other topics? Hi, in terms of topics I'd like to discuss how some recent efforts integrate and depend on each other. In particular the long-proposed rewrite of present windows ties into the ongoing work on the scene and effects API redesign and QtQuick integration. This also ties into the realtime gesture work by Janet (https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/1059) and the design of present windows/other overviews. I'd like everyone involved to have some shared understanding of a timeline and design goals so that e.g. we have a design idea ready once we can implement a present windows successor. Cheers Nico
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On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 11:27 AM Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > > Hi, > > Was already asking :) I'd prefer Mon or Tue. An almost-all-day on tuesday? (on mon there is also the agm that may conflict?) -- Marco Martin
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As discussed at the meeting yesterday one obvious topic is 5.23 kickoff to schedule the next release Jonathan
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On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 10:43 AM Marco Martin wrote: > > Hi all, > Do we want a plasma bof at akademy? > often we do a full day one, which may or may not be useful, > depending on what topic we do have. > Personally i would like to make one about plasma 6 > Any day/time preference? other topics? We sure should have BoFs, I'd prefer if we have different topics per slot to see whether I must be in a session or not, since it's inevitable that we get parallel sessions. A "State of Plasma on Wayland" session could be useful as well. On last week's Plasma Mobile meeting we also discussed having a "Creating Plasma Mobile apps" BoF as well. We can also include that as Plasma. ;) As for time, I'm planning to be around for Akademy, so it's a matter of not colliding, but for me let's just pick a sensible time and hope for the best. Cheers! Aleix
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Hi, Was already asking :) I'd prefer Mon or Tue. Cheers Kai Uwe
Akademy Plasma Bof
Hi all, Do we want a plasma bof at akademy? often we do a full day one, which may or may not be useful, depending on what topic we do have. Personally i would like to make one about plasma 6 Any day/time preference? other topics? -- Marco Martin
