On 8 May 2014 13:56, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
However, to support the cross-desktop efforts, the GNOME people should
maybe make a few compromises (e.g. make GTK+ behave differently on
other DEs), especially since GTK+ is
On 8 May 2014 13:56, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
However, to support the cross-desktop efforts, the GNOME people should
maybe make a few compromises (e.g. make GTK+ behave differently on
other DEs), especially since GTK+ is
On Friday 09 May 2014 09:54:53 John Layt wrote:
On 8 May 2014 13:56, Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote:
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
However, to support the cross-desktop efforts, the GNOME people should
maybe make a few compromises (e.g. make GTK+ behave
Pardon my ignorance, but does Gtk impose CSD on all apps, or just
those apps that opt-in to using it?
GTK apps can opt out (by not using a GTKHeader widget)
I can't imagine the Gimp adopting that design anytime soon. They're
already quite far from Gnome HIG.
I patched GTK here:
On 9 May 2014 10:04, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
XFCE is affected in that way that GTK developers opened bug reports against
XFCE that their window manager is broken (stating it's the only one not
supporting that, well KWin neither).
That's not exactly the way to win friends and
Tell me if you have issues moving it through and we can all try to talk with
our respective contacts and try to get them to push it a bit :)
On Friday 09 May 2014 13.20.56 David Edmundson wrote:
Pardon my ignorance, but does Gtk impose CSD on all apps, or just
those apps that opt-in to using
Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 wrote:
Any advice on how to handle this situation is appreciated.
As several people responded that I should report the issues I just did that
and reported the following bug reports against GTK:
* CSD styled windows don't react on compositing
2014-05-08 9:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org:
Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 wrote:
Any advice on how to handle this situation is appreciated.
As several people responded that I should report the issues I just did that
and reported the following bug reports
Have there been any form of reply from them? At least something so we can gage
the level of interest in the subject?
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On Thursday 08 May 2014 14:42:17 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
Have there been any form of reply from them? At least something so we can
gage the level of interest in the subject?
not yet, but given from the time of the replies in David's bug report I do not
expect anything before tomorrow morning.
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
However, to support the cross-desktop efforts, the GNOME people should
maybe make a few compromises (e.g. make GTK+ behave differently on
other DEs), especially since GTK+ is not just for GNOME but also used
by other projects.
This is
On Thursday 08 May 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
2014-05-08 9:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org:
Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 wrote:
Any advice on how to handle this situation is appreciated.
As several people responded that I should report the
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 11:24:03 Marco Martin wrote:
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
* A hung window can no longer be closed or moved. Technical explanation:
there is a ping protocol to detect hung applications. KWin only sends ping
requests when the window is being
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote:
Hi all,
I need some advice. The new GTK+ release introduced and enforces
client-side-
decorations (CSD) and that is causing severe compatibility problems with
Plasma Workspaces (especially the stable release which we
I have a pretty good report with Andreas Nilsson and he knows all the Gnome
devs and they know him so that might be a good way in... Should I try to
contact him and perhaps set up some kind of talk between one of the devs and
you Martin? See if there is something that can be worked out that
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 12:37:32 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
I have a pretty good report with Andreas Nilsson and he knows all the Gnome
devs and they know him so that might be a good way in... Should I try to
contact him and perhaps set up some kind of talk between one of the devs and
you Martin?
I don't think that it's helpful to set up any talk between me and GNOME
devs. They know that I don't like CSD.
That's not even trying. Don't be that guy.
David
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It seems changing the GTK style to Oxygen fixes a lot of the visual problems.
Kwin is doing the decoration and the borders. I don't get the shadows
with compositing on/off.
http://imgur.com/5aiDUFq
Martin could you try setting this and see which bugs remain?
It seems all things are fixed,
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 13:21:58 David Edmundson wrote:
It seems changing the GTK style to Oxygen fixes a lot of the visual
problems. Kwin is doing the decoration and the borders. I don't get the
shadows with compositing on/off.
http://imgur.com/5aiDUFq
Martin could you try setting this
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 12:53:51 David Edmundson wrote:
I don't think that it's helpful to set up any talk between me and GNOME
devs. They know that I don't like CSD.
That's not even trying. Don't be that guy.
Well I tried. I wrote several blog posts back in 2010 showing the issues it
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 13:21:58 David Edmundson wrote:
It seems changing the GTK style to Oxygen fixes a lot of the visual
problems. Kwin is doing the decoration and the borders. I don't get the
shadows with compositing on/off.
http://imgur.com/5aiDUFq
Martin could you try setting this
gtk3 3.12.1-2
oxygen-gtk is git master.
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The suggestion was Try asking mclasen on irc.gnome.org #gtk+ channel.
As for who asks as long as it's no one heavily involved in the issue but
percieved as neutral but with the technical skill to explain it as well as
understand their suggestions it should be fine right?
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 13:48:23 David Edmundson wrote:
gtk3 3.12.1-2
oxygen-gtk is git master.
strange, Hugo confirmed to me that he is able to reproduce the issues with
gtk-3.12.1
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Martin could you try setting this and see which bugs remain?
It seems all things are fixed, besides a slightly silly double title.
For me, oxygen does not fix the shadows.
https://plus.google.com/photos/+Ivan%C4%8Cuki%C4%87/albums/6010311973653118369
Aha. Found the pattern.
I had launched with compositing off, and then turned it on. toggling
on/off afterwards works fine as you've stated GTK doesn't detect this
properly.
So hopefully we can ask GTK to pretend compositing is off when not in
gnome, and with Oxygen the header doesn't even look
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 14:25:23 David Edmundson wrote:
Aha. Found the pattern.
I had launched with compositing off, and then turned it on. toggling
on/off afterwards works fine as you've stated GTK doesn't detect this
properly.
So hopefully we can ask GTK to pretend compositing is off
El Dimecres, 7 de maig de 2014, a les 10:11:37, Martin Gräßlin va escriure:
Hi all,
I need some advice. The new GTK+ release
For those that don't follow much the GTK+ world, which release number is that?
Cheers,
Albert
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