[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #40 from Chris  ---
(In reply to Kai Uwe Broulik from comment #4)
> That script isn't particularly efficient.
> I like the idea of reducing the timeout for turning off the screen when it's
> locked (and/or making that a separate option since you might not want it to
> turn off at all while not locked), though. I added it to my todo list.
> Thanks.

What do you think of the script there
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348529#c33?
It does not, on the face of it, rely on an infinite loop, and it works both
with x11 and wayland.

dbus-monitor --session "type='signal',interface='org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver'"
|
  while read x; do
case "$x" in
  *"boolean true"*)
echo SCREEN_LOCKED;
kwriteconfig5 --file powermanagementprofilesrc --group AC --group
DPMSControl --key idleTime 60;
qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/kde/Solid/PowerManagement
org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement.refreshStatus
;;
  *"boolean false"*)
echo SCREEN_UNLOCKED;
kwriteconfig5 --file powermanagementprofilesrc --group AC --group
DPMSControl --key idleTime 600;
qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/kde/Solid/PowerManagement
org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement.refreshStatus
;;
esac
  done

It is quick and dirty cut and paste but I think it works, and I don't see why
not?

As they say in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348529#c39, it could help
having something like that integrated in System-Settings, instead on relying on
users hacks.

It is annoying having 30W plus, of monitor LED, glowing unnecessarily.
(https://www.thehomehacksdiy.com/how-much-power-watts-does-a-monitor-use/)

Keep in mind that for most users, monitor power button is not an option because
it scrambles up all the settings.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #39 from mágoa mångata  ---
(In reply to Chris from comment #38)
> (In reply to mágoa mångata from comment #36)
> > This bug is kind of annoying. Is there any problem about not solving it?
> > Since this is small bug. It's not resolved for 7 years!
> > I think the only thing to do is to add an option for lock screen timeout in
> > the power settings.
> 
> Have you tried the `kde-saver-script.sh` script from above? My system is now
> so well behaved in that regard that I don't need that anymore. But I believe
> that should work just fine. And that both with x11 (which I no longer use),
> and wayland.

I know it works. But the thing is, it should be implemented in the settings and
be turned on by default. So no one would be annoyed.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #38 from Chris  ---
(In reply to mágoa mångata from comment #36)
> This bug is kind of annoying. Is there any problem about not solving it?
> Since this is small bug. It's not resolved for 7 years!
> I think the only thing to do is to add an option for lock screen timeout in
> the power settings.

Have you tried the `kde-saver-script.sh` script from above? My system is now so
well behaved in that regard that I don't need that anymore. But I believe that
should work just fine. And that both with x11 (which I no longer use), and
wayland.

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--- Comment #37 from Chris  ---
(In reply to Chris from comment #34)
> The script above should work nicely, but it doesn't, not consistently at
> least.
> Related bugs:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348082 "monitor is randomly powered
> back on"
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422455 "Monitor power saving won't work
> when using DisplayPort cable"

Those two bugs no longer bother me, for a few month now, latest debian-sid,
wayland as pure as possible.

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--- Comment #36 from mágoa mångata  ---
This bug is kind of annoying. Is there any problem about not solving it? Since
this is small bug. It's not resolved for 7 years!
I think the only thing to do is to add an option for lock screen timeout in the
power settings.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #34 from Chris  ---
The script above should work nicely, but it doesn't, not consistently at least.
Related bugs:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348082 "monitor is randomly powered back
on"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422455 "Monitor power saving won't work
when using DisplayPort cable"

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--- Comment #33 from Chris  ---
I've tried the following on debian sid with Plasma 5.21, Framework 5.82, and
most importantly Wayland:

$ cat ./kde-saver-script.sh 
#! /bin/bash
#
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/353998/run-script-on-screen-lock-in-kde
# Run the script in a terminal and then type Ctrl+Alt+L, and then the screen
should turn off after only 60 sec.
# Once you unlocked the screen, the turn off screen timer is set back to 600
sec.
dbus-monitor --session "type='signal',interface='org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver'"
|
  while read x; do
case "$x" in
  *"boolean true"*)
echo SCREEN_LOCKED;
kwriteconfig5 --file powermanagementprofilesrc --group AC --group
DPMSControl --key idleTime 60;
qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/kde/Solid/PowerManagement
org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement.refreshStatus
;;
  *"boolean false"*)
echo SCREEN_UNLOCKED;
kwriteconfig5 --file powermanagementprofilesrc --group AC --group
DPMSControl --key idleTime 600;
qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/kde/Solid/PowerManagement
org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement.refreshStatus
;;
esac
  done

And it works, very well indeed. But sometimes, even though it worked when you
left the room, when you come back you find the screen turned on, and stubbornly
refusing to turn off all by itself.
Consistency is of the essence here: save the planet, turn off the screen.

Even though it's not working, the "turn off screen" seems much more consistent
with Wayland than it was with x11.
(https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/09/comparing-dpms-on-x11-and-wayland/)

And maybe obvious improvements to the script could fix it.

Note that I did do `sudo systemd-inhibit --list`, when I observed the "turn
off" action was failing, but nothing stuck out. So I have no idea on what went
wrong.

However the "turn off screen" thing seems consistent without my script meddling
into it, and only the settings in "power management / energy saving". So it is
likely that the poor script above is missing some mandatory settings.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #31 from Lukas Ba.  ---
It's been 5 years since this bug was opened. Can we please just use the event
script solution i suggested? This should be as simple as editing some default
configuration files to add the xset commands below.

To reduce the delay until the screen is turned off, when the screen is locked.
Go to System Settings > Notifications > Event Source: Screen Saver
Click on "Screen locked"
Enable "Run command" and copy this into the text box
/usr/bin/xset dpms 69
To reset the delay until the screen is turned off to the longer value, when the
screen is unlocked.
/usr/bin/xset dpms 420

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #28 from goodmi...@goodmirek.com ---
(In reply to arne anka from comment #27)
> (In reply to goodmirek from comment #25)
> > (In reply to arne anka from comment #22)
> > > (In reply to goodmirek from comment #19)
> > > > arne anka: The issue seems to be there is not enough people able to
> > > > contribute their manpower or money to buy such a manpower.
> > > > If I create an issue for this bug on bountysource.com and add $50 
> > > > bounty,
> > > > how much will you contribute?
> > > 
> > > @goodmirek: well, I'm prepared to offer between 50 and 100.
> > 
> > I have just created an issue for this bug on bountysource.com and added $50
> > bounty.
> > Please feel free to make your contributions here:
> > https://www.bountysource.com/issues/72539369-turn-off-screen-after-lock-
> > screen
> 
> Got only just now to checking out bountysource.com -- they only offer
> PayPal, and PayPal is a No-Go. I wouldn't touch that particular company with
> a ten-foot-pole.
> If you have an idea how I can add my share in a sane and trustworthy way,
> let me know.

Bountysource.com might be able to accept donations in ETH.

Anyway, the conditions did not change since me and arne anka made an agreement
to make a donation. I have kept my part of the promise.
I believe anyone who wants to complain about a state of any FOSS project should
first contribute their effort and/or money.

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--- Comment #27 from arne anka  ---
(In reply to goodmirek from comment #25)
> (In reply to arne anka from comment #22)
> > (In reply to goodmirek from comment #19)
> > > arne anka: The issue seems to be there is not enough people able to
> > > contribute their manpower or money to buy such a manpower.
> > > If I create an issue for this bug on bountysource.com and add $50 bounty,
> > > how much will you contribute?
> > 
> > @goodmirek: well, I'm prepared to offer between 50 and 100.
> 
> I have just created an issue for this bug on bountysource.com and added $50
> bounty.
> Please feel free to make your contributions here:
> https://www.bountysource.com/issues/72539369-turn-off-screen-after-lock-
> screen

Got only just now to checking out bountysource.com -- they only offer PayPal,
and PayPal is a No-Go. I wouldn't touch that particular company with a
ten-foot-pole.
If you have an idea how I can add my share in a sane and trustworthy way, let
me know.

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--- Comment #26 from goodmi...@goodmirek.com ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #24)
> *** Bug 405344 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

The bug 405344 is not a duplicate of this bug 348529, although it is related.
The bug 405344 might need to be solved in order to make a fix for this bug
348529 working.

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--- Comment #25 from goodmi...@goodmirek.com ---
(In reply to arne anka from comment #22)
> (In reply to goodmirek from comment #19)
> > arne anka: The issue seems to be there is not enough people able to
> > contribute their manpower or money to buy such a manpower.
> > If I create an issue for this bug on bountysource.com and add $50 bounty,
> > how much will you contribute?
> 
> @goodmirek: well, I'm prepared to offer between 50 and 100.

I have just created an issue for this bug on bountysource.com and added $50
bounty.
Please feel free to make your contributions here:
https://www.bountysource.com/issues/72539369-turn-off-screen-after-lock-screen

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--- Comment #24 from Nate Graham  ---
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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #23 from Christoph Feck  ---
Comment #11 works perfect for me.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #22 from arne anka  ---
(In reply to goodmirek from comment #19)
> arne anka: The issue seems to be there is not enough people able to
> contribute their manpower or money to buy such a manpower.
> If I create an issue for this bug on bountysource.com and add $50 bounty,
> how much will you contribute?

@goodmirek: well, I'm prepared to offer between 50 and 100.

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--- Comment #21 from arne anka  ---
(In reply to Kai Uwe Broulik from comment #18)
> If it were trivially implemented, I would have long done it. Feel free to
> poke the code and submit a patch, relevant code can be found in
> powerdevil/daemon/actions/dpms

I am not a C++/Qt programmer.
But if a feature that common in other DMs (and frankly in the light of longtime
and ongoing discussions about global warming etc very sensible feature) is that
difficult to implement, then there seems to be a broken design at the core.

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--- Comment #20 from Lukas Ba.  ---
> 2.) Add option to reduce turn off timeout when screen is locked (to e.g. 30 
> seconds or 1 minute) ← would be my preference

Here is how to implement this behaviour with the event workaround.
I added two commands. To reduce the delay until the screen is turned off, when
the screen is locked.
/usr/bin/xset dpms 69
To reset the delay until the screen is turned off to the longer value, when the
screen is unlocked.
/usr/bin/xset dpms 420

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--- Comment #19 from goodmi...@goodmirek.com ---
arne anka: The issue seems to be there is not enough people able to contribute
their manpower or money to buy such a manpower.
If I create an issue for this bug on bountysource.com and add $50 bounty, how
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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #18 from Kai Uwe Broulik  ---
If it were trivially implemented, I would have long done it. Feel free to poke
the code and submit a patch, relevant code can be found in
powerdevil/daemon/actions/dpms

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--- Comment #17 from arne anka  ---
surprising such a trivial but vital feature is still missing - and nothing
happened after almost 4 years.

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Is this included in any roadmap for a future release?  This is a key feature
for me.

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--- Comment #15 from gade...@gmail.com ---
gnome-shell does this natively. In KDE, user is still forced to write a script
for this and attach it to lock screen even notification trigger.

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--- Comment #14 from k...@web.de ---
If you set the lockscreen timeout to less than the DPMS timeout (-30s), that
effectively reduces the DPMS timeout to the lockscreen timeout (+30s), making
the DPMS timeout setting ineffective. this must somehow be communicated.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #13 from Martin Gräßlin  ---
Some thoughts from using my system. I often listen to music provided by 
the computer. The computer's audio is connected through HDMI to one of 
my screens. When the screen goes into DPMS the audio is turned off with 
a loud *knacks* and when being turned on again it *knacks* again.

When I listen to music I hate it when the system goes into DPMS.

Even worse, though, is that the screen is very slow when going into DPMS 
or returning from it. The screen needs a fair 10 sec or more to do the 
mode switch. And it cannot handle it correctly. After resume from DPMS 
I'm greeted with a message that "invalid mode is used", while in truth 
everything is correct. To get rid of the message I need to press the 
menu button of the screen.

The screen is about 5/6 years old.

I'm telling this just to make aware that not all users would benefit 
from instant turning on DPMS when going to lock the screen. It can be 
highly annoying.

Given that we must have an option for it. I do see the energy saving 
aspect and would suggest to reduce the timeout to 30 sec after the 
screen is locked. But if DPMS is broken the normal energy saving levels 
should be used. We do support things like audio control in the lock 
screen. This doesn't make sense if the system goes into DPMS every half 
a minute.

Also we need to be careful. We only should do this if the screen gets 
locked either explicitly by the user or through idle timeout. Not when 
switching user session or going to suspend.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #12 from Kai Uwe Broulik  ---
So, Martin, and Usability, what do you think about this?

Looks like we have three options:
1.) Add option to turn off screen when user locks it
2.) Add option to reduce turn off timeout when screen is locked (to e.g. 30
seconds or 1 minute) ← would be my preference
3.) Keep it as it is

(I was just thinking of the phone usecase, too, but currently pressing the
power button directly turns off the screen independently of the lock screen?)

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--- Comment #11 from k...@web.de ---
A better workaround:
Go to System Settings > Notifications > Event Source: Screen Saver
Click on "Screen locked"
Enable "Run command" and copy this into the text box:
/usr/bin/sleep 2.0 && /usr/bin/xset dpms force off

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--- Comment #10 from n...@leippe.com ---
My case seems to have been because of a bug in the nvidia-drivers.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560774

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--- Comment #9 from n...@leippe.com ---
related to #349344 ?

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

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--- Comment #8 from kraeuterm...@gmail.com ---
On Kubuntu 15.04 running Plasma 5.3.2 it returns:

Service 'org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver' does not exist.
lcsleep.sh: 11: lcsleep.sh: [[: not found

Not working.

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--- Comment #5 from n...@leippe.com ---
This doesn't work.
Yes, it turns off the screen, but something turns it back on just a second
later.

Doing
sleep 5; xset dpms force off
then quickly clicking the lock button yields the same result--it goes to screen
saver, turns off, then turns right back on.

In short, currently there is no way to get the screen into power save mode with
the kde screen locked.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

[Rewarp]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348529

--- Comment #7 from Rewarp rew...@thestrayworld.com ---
I have been using this script since the day I uploaded it, and on a newly
reinstalled desktop as well. I am running an ATI card using the DVI port, so
that could be the difference.

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

[nick]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348529

--- Comment #6 from n...@leippe.com ---
related to: ?

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/791786/linux/dpms-not-working-on-gtx980-with-displayport-connection/2/

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[Powerdevil] [Bug 348529] Turn off screen after lock screen

[Kai Uwe Broulik]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348529

Kai Uwe Broulik k...@privat.broulik.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Assignee|k...@davidedmundson.co.uk|plasma-devel@kde.org
   Target Milestone|1.0 |---
Product|plasmashell |Powerdevil
 CC||k...@privat.broulik.de
  Component|general |general
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |CONFIRMED
Version|master  |5.3.1

--- Comment #4 from Kai Uwe Broulik k...@privat.broulik.de ---
That script isn't particularly efficient.
I like the idea of reducing the timeout for turning off the screen when it's
locked (and/or making that a separate option since you might not want it to
turn off at all while not locked), though. I added it to my todo list. Thanks.

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