Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-22 Thread Alexander Fedorov
not supposed to be shown. Kind regards, Andrey Loskutov Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2020 um 10:23 Uhr *Von:* "Mickael Istria" *An:* "Eclipse platform general developers list." *Betreff:*

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-22 Thread Andrey Loskutov
ttwoch, 22. Januar 2020 um 10:23 Uhr Von: "Mickael Istria" An: "Eclipse platform general developers list." Betreff: Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?     On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:04 AM Andrey Loskutov <losku...@gmx.de> wrote:

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-22 Thread Mickael Istria
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:04 AM Andrey Loskutov wrote: > I fully agree with Tom. > In one of the my answers I've already suggested to think about something > like boolean IResource::isNested() API. > If we do that, then we need to change all clients to read this new state. I'm really looking

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-22 Thread Andrey Loskutov
Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov     Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2020 um 09:52 Uhr Von: "Tom Schindl" An: "Eclipse platform general developers list." Betreff: Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-22 Thread Tom Schindl
Hi, I think the only correct solution is to enhance the core API and then adjust all components. Is it a lot of work? yes! But I think it is the only viable long term solution. Tom Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 22.01.2020 um 09:34 schrieb Mickael Istria : > >  > Hi all, > > So I'm

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-22 Thread Mickael Istria
Hi all, So I'm making progress in my thoughts around those issues. What about hidden resources? To rephrase "Marking folders for nested projects as hidden, what are the risks?" I'm not really sure of what hidden implies under the hood, but the documentation seems pretty flexible in usage. Maybe

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Mickael Istria
Thanks Andrey and Dani for the solid arguments. I think I have to give up on this idea then. But that brings me to another question that could help improving some use-cases: if we have project A and its nested project B in A/B, and there is a folder A/B/C (which is duplicated as B/C in A, and as

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Andrey Loskutov
рук самих утопающих https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov     Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Januar 2020 um 11:46 Uhr Von: "Mickael Istria" An: "Eclipse platform general developers list." Betreff: Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks? On Tue

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Andrey Loskutov
or later.   Kind regards, Andrey Loskutov Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov     Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Januar 2020 um 12:10 Uhr Von: "Mickael Istria" An: "Eclipse platform general developers list." Betreff: Re: [platform

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Mickael Istria
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:03 PM Daniel Megert wrote: > That's a very limited experiment. I imagine It's the 90% of use-cases experiment. What happens if I delete all derived resources? Removing resources is already a tricky case in current state with duplication (duplicated resources are

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Daniel Megert
That's a very limited experiment. What happens if I delete all derived resources? Dani From: Mickael Istria To: "Eclipse platform general developers list." Date: 21.01.2020 11:47 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived,

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Mickael Istria
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:34 AM Daniel Megert wrote: > The Javadoc says it all. My experiment shows the Javadoc isn't really accurate in practice with EGit. Also, with the proposal: * "Derived resources are not original data, and can be recreated from other resources." is true as the

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Daniel Megert
The Javadoc says it all. Dani From: Mickael Istria To: "Eclipse platform general developers list." Date: 21.01.2020 11:28 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks? Sent by:platform-dev-boun...@e

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Daniel Megert
> No, please don't do that! +1 Dani From: "Andrey Loskutov" To: platform-dev@eclipse.org Date: 21.01.2020 10:53 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks? Sent by:platform-dev-boun...@eclipse.org No,

Re: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Andrey Loskutov
Von: "Mickael Istria" An: "Eclipse platform general developers list." Betreff: [platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks? Hi all,   In m2e, BuildShip or even for the Open Resources and other views, one issue appears often: duplication of resou

[platform-dev] Marking nested projects as derived, what are the risks?

2020-01-21 Thread Mickael Istria
Hi all, In m2e, BuildShip or even for the Open Resources and other views, one issue appears often: duplication of resources in visible area, confusing users. The m2e issue about it is https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=500624 . Eclipse Platform has the idea of "derived" resources which