Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-09 Thread Alex Blewitt 
I agree. It’s happened to many bugs I raised over the years even when they are 
provably still valid, and it gives a really bad impression to end users for 
limited gain.

Alex

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> On 10 Feb 2022, at 06:49, Christoph Läubrich  wrote:
> 
> +1 for disabling this.
> 
>> Am 10.02.22 um 07:45 schrieb Andrey Loskutov:
>> Yes, please.
>> I believe PMC once decided it would be a great idea to have less bugs open, 
>> so I would ask PMC to discuss the success of this practice once again, we 
>> should be able to reiterate on our processes.
>> I've complained https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jdt-dev/msg01419.html already 
>> (no result), Stephan too (before he silently quit) 
>> https://www.eclipse.org/lists/eclipse-pmc/msg03833.html, I know other 
>> committers not happy with this practice, and we receive constant feedback 
>> from users that this *is* a bad practice.
>> It doesn't help anyone, just creates bad impression for remaining few users 
>> who take time to fill bug reports.
>> Am 10. Februar 2022 07:23:49 MEZ schrieb Ed Merks :
>>> Can we please turn off this "Genie" that does this to open bugs? I've
>>> asked about this before and I really don't like it.  This time I want to
>>> really make it stop.  I think such a behavior creates a really bad
>>> impression, i.e., that we manage bugs so poorly that we need a bot that
>>> times them out automatically because we just can't be bothered to manage
>>> this properly.  Yes, of course I know there is much time involved in
>>> triage, but that's exactly the point.  I triaged all the p2 bugs some
>>> time ago to reduce it to the ones that are open so these are legitimate
>>> issues that should not be auto-closed...
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ed
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Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-09 Thread Christoph Läubrich 

+1 for disabling this.

Am 10.02.22 um 07:45 schrieb Andrey Loskutov:

Yes, please.

I believe PMC once decided it would be a great idea to have less bugs open, so 
I would ask PMC to discuss the success of this practice once again, we should 
be able to reiterate on our processes.

I've complained https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jdt-dev/msg01419.html already (no 
result), Stephan too (before he silently quit) 
https://www.eclipse.org/lists/eclipse-pmc/msg03833.html, I know other 
committers not happy with this practice, and we receive constant feedback from 
users that this *is* a bad practice.

It doesn't help anyone, just creates bad impression for remaining few users who 
take time to fill bug reports.


Am 10. Februar 2022 07:23:49 MEZ schrieb Ed Merks :

Can we please turn off this "Genie" that does this to open bugs? I've
asked about this before and I really don't like it.  This time I want to
really make it stop.  I think such a behavior creates a really bad
impression, i.e., that we manage bugs so poorly that we need a bot that
times them out automatically because we just can't be bothered to manage
this properly.  Yes, of course I know there is much time involved in
triage, but that's exactly the point.  I triaged all the p2 bugs some
time ago to reduce it to the ones that are open so these are legitimate
issues that should not be auto-closed...

Regards,
Ed


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Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-09 Thread Andrey Loskutov 
Yes, please.

I believe PMC once decided it would be a great idea to have less bugs open, so 
I would ask PMC to discuss the success of this practice once again, we should 
be able to reiterate on our processes. 

I've complained https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jdt-dev/msg01419.html already (no 
result), Stephan too (before he silently quit) 
https://www.eclipse.org/lists/eclipse-pmc/msg03833.html, I know other 
committers not happy with this practice, and we receive constant feedback from 
users that this *is* a bad practice.

It doesn't help anyone, just creates bad impression for remaining few users who 
take time to fill bug reports.


Am 10. Februar 2022 07:23:49 MEZ schrieb Ed Merks :
>Can we please turn off this "Genie" that does this to open bugs? I've 
>asked about this before and I really don't like it.  This time I want to 
>really make it stop.  I think such a behavior creates a really bad 
>impression, i.e., that we manage bugs so poorly that we need a bot that 
>times them out automatically because we just can't be bothered to manage 
>this properly.  Yes, of course I know there is much time involved in 
>triage, but that's exactly the point.  I triaged all the p2 bugs some 
>time ago to reduce it to the ones that are open so these are legitimate 
>issues that should not be auto-closed...
>
>Regards,
>Ed

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[platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-09 Thread Ed Merks 
Can we please turn off this "Genie" that does this to open bugs? I've 
asked about this before and I really don't like it.  This time I want to 
really make it stop.  I think such a behavior creates a really bad 
impression, i.e., that we manage bugs so poorly that we need a bot that 
times them out automatically because we just can't be bothered to manage 
this properly.  Yes, of course I know there is much time involved in 
triage, but that's exactly the point.  I triaged all the p2 bugs some 
time ago to reduce it to the ones that are open so these are legitimate 
issues that should not be auto-closed...


Regards,
Ed



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https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=305081
Product/Component: Equinox / p2


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Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?

2022-02-09 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov 
It's being open for few days already
https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/helpdesk/-/issues/862

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 3:38 PM Thomas Watson  wrote:

> We are having issues with the Equinox framework gerrits also.  Perhaps we
> need an issue opened with the foundation to help?
>
> Tom
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 9, 2022 7:30 AM
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> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?
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> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 3:21 PM Andrey Loskutov  wrote:
> Alex, do you plan to update all jenkins files we have in the platform? We
> have same problem most likely in other platform repositories. ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 3:21 PM Andrey Loskutov  wrote:
>
> Alex,
>
> do you plan to update all jenkins files we have in the platform? We have
> same problem most likely in other platform repositories.
>
>
> When some gerrit verification works so I can be sure that it fixes it yes.
> Unfortunately https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190614
> didn't trigger the gerrit rebuild again. I wouldn't mind some help there
> though.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrey Loskutov
>
> Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov
>
>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 09. Februar 2022 um 13:52 Uhr
> *Von:* "Aleksandar Kurtakov" 
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> platform-dev@eclipse.org>
> *Betreff:* Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:32 PM Ed Merks  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't understand why there is currently a code freeze:
>
> https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190598
>
> With 2022-03 M2, Friday, February 4, 2022  in the past and 2022-03 M3,
> Friday, February 25, 2022 more than two weeks in the future, why is
> something frozen today.  Perhaps something is configured?
>
>
> It's fix needed in Jenkinsfile to fetch correct script after
> releng.aggregator moved to github.
> https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190614 should be it.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Ed
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Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?

2022-02-09 Thread Thomas Watson 
We are having issues with the Equinox framework gerrits also.  Perhaps we need 
an issue opened with the foundation to help?

Tom

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On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 3:21 PM Andrey Loskutov  wrote: Alex, 
do you plan to update all jenkins files we have in the platform? We have same 
problem most likely in other platform repositories. ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 3:21 PM Andrey Loskutov 
mailto:losku...@gmx.de>> wrote:
Alex,

do you plan to update all jenkins files we have in the platform? We have same 
problem most likely in other platform repositories.

When some gerrit verification works so I can be sure that it fixes it yes. 
Unfortunately https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190614 didn't 
trigger the gerrit rebuild again. I wouldn't mind some help there though.


Kind regards,
Andrey Loskutov

Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих

https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov


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An: "Eclipse platform general developers list." 
mailto:platform-dev@eclipse.org>>
Betreff: Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?


On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:32 PM Ed Merks 
mailto:ed.me...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I don't understand why there is currently a code freeze:

https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190598

With 2022-03 M2, Friday, February 4, 2022  in the past and 2022-03 M3,
Friday, February 25, 2022 more than two weeks in the future, why is
something frozen today.  Perhaps something is configured?

It's fix needed in Jenkinsfile to fetch correct script after releng.aggregator 
moved to github. https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190614 
should be it.


Regards,
Ed

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Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?

2022-02-09 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov 
On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 3:21 PM Andrey Loskutov  wrote:

> Alex,
>
> do you plan to update all jenkins files we have in the platform? We have
> same problem most likely in other platform repositories.
>

When some gerrit verification works so I can be sure that it fixes it yes.
Unfortunately https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190614
didn't trigger the gerrit rebuild again. I wouldn't mind some help there
though.


>
> Kind regards,
> Andrey Loskutov
>
> Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov
>
>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 09. Februar 2022 um 13:52 Uhr
> *Von:* "Aleksandar Kurtakov" 
> *An:* "Eclipse platform general developers list." <
> platform-dev@eclipse.org>
> *Betreff:* Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:32 PM Ed Merks  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't understand why there is currently a code freeze:
>>
>> https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190598
>>
>> With 2022-03 M2, Friday, February 4, 2022  in the past and 2022-03 M3,
>> Friday, February 25, 2022 more than two weeks in the future, why is
>> something frozen today.  Perhaps something is configured?
>
>
> It's fix needed in Jenkinsfile to fetch correct script after
> releng.aggregator moved to github.
> https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190614 should be it.
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ed
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Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?

2022-02-09 Thread Andrey Loskutov 
Alex,

 

do you plan to update all jenkins files we have in the platform? We have same problem most likely in other platform repositories.
 

Kind regards,
Andrey Loskutov

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On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:32 PM Ed Merks  wrote:

Hi,

I don't understand why there is currently a code freeze:

https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190598

With 2022-03 M2, Friday, February 4, 2022  in the past and 2022-03 M3,
Friday, February 25, 2022 more than two weeks in the future, why is
something frozen today.  Perhaps something is configured?

 

It's fix needed in Jenkinsfile to fetch correct script after releng.aggregator moved to github. https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190614 should be it.

 


Regards,
Ed

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Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?

2022-02-09 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov 
On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:32 PM Ed Merks  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't understand why there is currently a code freeze:
>
> https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190598
>
> With 2022-03 M2, Friday, February 4, 2022  in the past and 2022-03 M3,
> Friday, February 25, 2022 more than two weeks in the future, why is
> something frozen today.  Perhaps something is configured?
>

It's fix needed in Jenkinsfile to fetch correct script after
releng.aggregator moved to github.
https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2/+/190614 should be it.


>
> Regards,
> Ed
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