On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 22:07:14 +0100, Artur Wroblewski wrote:
I really really am confused now. You're pretending your side of the
story is how it's always been done in PLD. It's really not. HEAD was
always reserved for stable package releases.
right... especially in Ra and Ac times...
Ra
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 23:54:25 +0300, Caleb Maclennan wrote:
Artur ... I'm still not clear on what you GAIN by using HEAD instead
of DEVEL? In spite of the name, isn't HEAD basically functioning as
th-stable (plus some mess)?
I assume he gains only one thing - he can commit what he wants to
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Tomasz Pala go...@polanet.pl wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 22:07:14 +0100, Artur Wroblewski wrote:
I really really am confused now. You're pretending your side of the
story is how it's always been done in PLD. It's really not. HEAD was
always reserved for
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Artur Wroblewski
wrob...@pld-linux.org wrote:
1. DEVEL is for unstable versions - we are talking about RC.
If this Release Candidate is stable, then why is it a Release
Candidate and not the final version? Please tell us.
2. the release announcement contains
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012, Tomasz Pala wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 23:54:25 +0300, Caleb Maclennan wrote:
Artur ... I'm still not clear on what you GAIN by using HEAD instead
of DEVEL? In spite of the name, isn't HEAD basically functioning as
th-stable (plus some mess)?
I assume he gains
W dniu 21 kwietnia 2012 11:39 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
wrob...@pld-linux.org napisał:
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Tomasz Pala go...@polanet.pl wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 22:07:14 +0100, Artur Wroblewski wrote:
I really really am confused now. You're pretending your side of the
2012/4/21 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com:
It may seem unbelievable to you, but there are people who use
*uncritical* *programs* for living. How absurd is that! Right?
I am thinking about doing some changes to apache. Or maybe mysql. No,
python would be the best one to modify. Think breaks
W dniu 21 kwietnia 2012 13:14 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
wrob...@pld-linux.org napisał:
2012/4/21 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com:
[...]
Stable is boring™.
well, why you have switched from the Ac and jumped on
the development distro line? you know, Ac was supposed
to be the stable
2012/4/21 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com:
W dniu 21 kwietnia 2012 13:14 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
wrob...@pld-linux.org napisał:
2012/4/21 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com:
[...]
Stable is boring(tm).
well, why you have switched from the Ac and jumped on
the development distro line?
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:56:08 +0200, Jan Rękorajski wrote:
I assume he gains only one thing - he can commit what he wants to have
and made everyone else fixing related stuff. Such 'solution' was the
right of release manager so far.
Please stop playing stupid.
Please stop screwing the
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:59:51PM +0200, Tomasz Pala wrote:
That might explain PLD deterioration.
To whom it may concern (but in Russian):
http://lists.altlinux.org/pipermail/devel/2012-April/193673.html
http://lists.altlinux.org/pipermail/devel/2012-April/193855.html
Igor is thinking -- and
2012/4/20 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com:
W dniu 20 kwietnia 2012 01:03 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
wrob...@pld-linux.org napisał:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org wrote:
2012/4/19 Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org:
hi,
i would like to move gimp
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Artur Wroblewski wrote:
hi,
i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
any argument against?
Just move 2.6 to GIMP_2_6 branch, keep fractional release on head and
yell if someone tries to send it to builders.
btw. we have some quite old gimp plugins on
Ac is stable release for which we have appropriate branch and Th
is in constant development mode, isn't it?
This is one area where PLD's release system is actually pretty wonky.
Other than a few emebeded or very static applications, AC is simply
too old to use for most stable systems. This puts
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org wrote:
Ac is stable release for which we have appropriate branch and Th
is in constant development mode, isn't it?
This is one area where PLD's release system is actually pretty wonky.
Other than a few emebeded or very
well... if you need more stable line, then why not to create one with
appropriate
branch in CVS? of course, the problem is that somebody needs to maintain that,
which I believe is full time job and lack of resources causes the stable
branch
to freeze. therefore, imho, it is not good idea to
W dniu 20 kwietnia 2012 20:57 użytkownik Caleb Maclennan
ca...@pld-linux.org napisał:
well... if you need more stable line, then why not to create one with
appropriate
branch in CVS? of course, the problem is that somebody needs to maintain
that,
which I believe is full time job and lack of
On 20.04.2012 20:57, Caleb Maclennan wrote:
well... if you need more stable line, then why not to create one with
appropriate
branch in CVS? of course, the problem is that somebody needs to maintain that,
which I believe is full time job and lack of resources causes the stable branch
to freeze.
W dniu 20 kwietnia 2012 21:28 użytkownik Andrzej Zawadzki
zawa...@gmail.com napisał:
On 20.04.2012 20:57, Caleb Maclennan wrote:
well... if you need more stable line, then why not to create one with
appropriate
branch in CVS? of course, the problem is that somebody needs to maintain
that,
On 20.04.2012 21:38, Bartosz Świątek wrote:
W dniu 20 kwietnia 2012 21:28 użytkownik Andrzej Zawadzki
zawa...@gmail.com napisał:
On 20.04.2012 20:57, Caleb Maclennan wrote:
well... if you need more stable line, then why not to create one with
appropriate
branch in CVS? of course, the problem
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org wrote:
well... if you need more stable line, then why not to create one with
appropriate
branch in CVS? of course, the problem is that somebody needs to maintain
that,
which I believe is full time job and lack of resources
Caleb, stop trolling*! You're asking very inconvenient questions :)
Wink wink.
I'm not actually trying to troll or be inconvenient. I'm also not
interested in pointing fingers.
I am a system administrator having a hard time keeping up with all the
broken systems. I think a contributing factor
W dniu 20 kwietnia 2012 22:26 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
wrob...@pld-linux.org napisał:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org wrote:
well... if you need more stable line, then why not to create one with
appropriate
branch in CVS? of course, the problem is that
2012/4/20 Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org:
it is very simple. th-stable, ac-stable or whatever... provide
meaningful, self documenting names to things.
Hey guys, how does this compute? My version control experience is
mostly subversion with a bit of git lately. CVS is still black magic
hi,
i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
any argument against?
btw. we have some quite old gimp plugins on ftp, i.e. build in 2010, 2009. shall
they be removed, rebuilt?
regards,
w
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W dniu 19 kwietnia 2012 21:32 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
wrob...@pld-linux.org napisał:
hi,
i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
any argument against?
Yes. New gegl and babl break API/ABI compatibility with earlier
versions. Gimp 2.8 RC1 needs them. Also as statet on
2012/4/19 Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org:
hi,
i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
any argument against?
btw. we have some quite old gimp plugins on ftp, i.e. build in 2010, 2009.
shall
they be removed, rebuilt?
regards,
w
Yes. That is an RC for a major
2012/4/19 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com:
W dniu 19 kwietnia 2012 21:32 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
wrob...@pld-linux.org napisał:
hi,
i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
any argument against?
Yes. New gegl and babl break API/ABI compatibility with earlier
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org wrote:
2012/4/19 Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org:
hi,
i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
any argument against?
btw. we have some quite old gimp plugins on ftp, i.e. build in 2010, 2009.
shall
W dniu 20 kwietnia 2012 01:03 użytkownik Artur Wroblewski
wrob...@pld-linux.org napisał:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org wrote:
2012/4/19 Artur Wroblewski wrob...@pld-linux.org:
hi,
i would like to move gimp 2.8.0 rc1 from DEVEL to HEAD.
any argument
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