Re: w32codec updated

2012-08-09 Thread Bartosz Taudul
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org wrote:
 Which brings us to the next problem. This user has been banned from
 the development lists for bad behavior, in particular a consistent
 series of posts that people felt were trolling and non-constructive.
 Since being on the devel lists is a requirement for all developers,
 this seems like a show stopper for repo access until such a time as it
 is resolved.
I just thought about one funny thing.

http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/pipermail/pld-discuss/2012-June/019503.html

If shadzik is unable to regain CVS RW access due to his inability to
be on the development list, I think it's only fair that arekm also
should lose his RW access due to reasons in the linked mail. CVS
admins, do your duty. One way or another.

wolf
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Re: w32codec updated

2012-08-09 Thread Paweł Sikora
On Thursday 09 of August 2012 23:08:20 Bartosz Taudul wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org wrote:
  Which brings us to the next problem. This user has been banned from
  the development lists for bad behavior, in particular a consistent
  series of posts that people felt were trolling and non-constructive.
  Since being on the devel lists is a requirement for all developers,

there's no such explicit requirement (common practice != requirement).

 I just thought about one funny thing.
 
 http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/pipermail/pld-discuss/2012-June/019503.html
 
 If shadzik is unable to regain CVS RW access due to his inability to
 be on the development list, I think it's only fair that arekm also
 should lose his RW access due to reasons in the linked mail.

assert(false).

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Re: w32codec updated

2012-08-09 Thread Bartosz Świątek
2012/8/9 Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org:
 2012/8/10 Bartosz Taudul wolf@gmail.com:
 I just thought about one funny thing.

 This is neither a game of mutual blackmail nor a cold war.

Noone said it was.


 In the case you linked to there was a threat, but the person in
 question is still on the lists and has RW.

Yes, but he resigned, didn't he? He left the devel list for a month or
so, which automatically should be punished with -RW (if not being on
the list is in contradiction to being a developer, right?), but it
wasn't so in that case, what's the problem with me? I also am a
developer now (got 3 voices) and am on the list. So what's the matter?

Either you do treat people equally or you're being biased, which is,
again, in contradiction to what you said when being adopted to CDG.

And another question. If you manage to get new rules applied regarding
old developers gaining RW access for the second time, will you apply
them to arekm as well?
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Re: w32codec updated

2012-08-09 Thread Paweł Sikora
list admin, keep your duty and add another shadzik's email address to the 
blacklist (cdg: now and in the future).

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Re: w32codec updated

2012-08-09 Thread Caleb Maclennan
2012/8/10 Bartosz Świątek shad...@tld-linux.org:
 should be punished

This isn't about punishment. It's about civility and cooperation.

If you're interested in those things, start practicing them instead
of trying to stir things up. People would be fine with your
participation if you did.

Caleb
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Re: w32codec updated

2012-08-09 Thread Bartosz Świątek
2012/8/10 Caleb Maclennan ca...@pld-linux.org:
 2012/8/10 Bartosz Świątek shad...@tld-linux.org:
 should be punished

 This isn't about punishment. It's about civility and cooperation.

Ok, I chose the wrong word. Leaving the devel list should then be
treated equally to resigning from RW.

 People would be fine with your
 participation if you did.

Some would, of that I'm sure, but not those who think of themselves as
the more equal ones (or in charge, you name it).

I believe I left a couple questions hanging out there about how
you... would act upon other individuals in the distribution given the
very very similar cases. They still stand.
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