Re: [projects/pld-builder.new] drop building intel drivers and nvidiabl for head kernels

2016-10-12 Thread Jacek Konieczny 

On 2016-10-12 07:31, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:

please announce any of such droppings.


A nice way to say 'announce any of this shit' ;-)

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Re: [projects/pld-builder.new] drop building intel drivers and nvidiabl for head kernels

2016-10-11 Thread Elan Ruusamäe 

On 12.10.2016 00:44, Jan Rękorajski wrote:

 From now on, if a kernel package does not build for new head kernel and
no obvious fix is available, I will drop such package on head.
If you want antique module, stick to old kernel.
please announce any of such droppings. that's what i asked here! and 
have asked historycally as well. if you plan to drop something you 
announce the list of packages and the reason.


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Re: [projects/pld-builder.new] drop building intel drivers and nvidiabl for head kernels

2016-10-11 Thread Elan Ruusamäe 

On 12.10.2016 00:44, Jan Rękorajski wrote:

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:


>On 12.10.2016 00:15, Jan Rękorajski wrote:

> >Fix it then. This driver is unmaintained for years and does not build
> >with kernel 4.8.

>that was not the point of the email to tell me "fix it then"
>
>the point was that you drop some package, don't even inform you are
>about to do so, or ask for help updating. with bulld errors, etc details
>like normal bugreports are createA

I remove packages after I see breakage sitting around in th-test for a
long time and no one interested in fixing it.

Any dev breaking stuff should be aware of the consequences and take
action to minimize breakage.

I'm not a nanny or Mr. Fix-it for everything.

how i should know any of that? i do not read your /dev/brain! or monitor 
your /dev/tty to see what you are doing.


and how exactly i broke anything personally here? i was just an user of 
a kernel module.


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Re: [projects/pld-builder.new] drop building intel drivers and nvidiabl for head kernels

2016-10-11 Thread Jan Rękorajski 
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:

> On 12.10.2016 00:15, Jan Rękorajski wrote:
> > Fix it then. This driver is unmaintained for years and does not build
> > with kernel 4.8.
> that was not the point of the email to tell me "fix it then"
> 
> the point was that you drop some package, don't even inform you are 
> about to do so, or ask for help updating. with bulld errors, etc details 
> like normal bugreports are createA

I remove packages after I see breakage sitting around in th-test for a
long time and no one interested in fixing it.

Any dev breaking stuff should be aware of the consequences and take
action to minimize breakage.

I'm not a nanny or Mr. Fix-it for everything.

> and now you respond: "why don't i update myself?"
> 
> because you've being doing it so well i don't even notice problems that 
> i should bother myself with and can keep occupied with other projects.

Sorry, but I'm sick of kernel modules being randomly dropped on ftp and
then forgotten by package authors. I end up maintaining antiquated junk
I have no way of testing, and until reently, we did ship not working
crap there (chnages to kernel compile flags helped finding those).

From now on, if a kernel package does not build for new head kernel and
no obvious fix is available, I will drop such package on head.
If you want antique module, stick to old kernel.

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Re: [projects/pld-builder.new] drop building intel drivers and nvidiabl for head kernels

2016-10-11 Thread Elan Ruusamäe 

On 12.10.2016 00:15, Jan Rękorajski wrote:

Fix it then. This driver is unmaintained for years and does not build
with kernel 4.8.

that was not the point of the email to tell me "fix it then"

the point was that you drop some package, don't even inform you are 
about to do so, or ask for help updating. with bulld errors, etc details 
like normal bugreports are created.


and now you respond: "why don't i update myself?"

because you've being doing it so well i don't even notice problems that 
i should bother myself with and can keep occupied with other projects.


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Re: [projects/pld-builder.new] drop building intel drivers and nvidiabl for head kernels

2016-10-11 Thread Jan Rękorajski 
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:

> On 11.10.2016 23:53, baggins wrote:
> > commit c856373d926bb13ff6e38acf0bd0fc5c5baef880
> > Author: Jan Rękorajski 
> > Date:   Tue Oct 11 22:53:04 2016 +0200
> >
> >  drop building intel drivers and nvidiabl for head kernels
> 
> i'm using nvidiabl. why stuff gets secretly dropped?
> 
> please announce if you're going to drop something.
> 
> # lsmod|grep nvidiabl
> nvidiabl   53248  0
> 
> # uname -r
> 4.7.2-1

Fix it then. This driver is unmaintained for years and does not build
with kernel 4.8.

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Re: [projects/pld-builder.new] drop building intel drivers and nvidiabl for head kernels

2016-10-11 Thread Elan Ruusamäe 

On 11.10.2016 23:53, baggins wrote:

commit c856373d926bb13ff6e38acf0bd0fc5c5baef880
Author: Jan Rękorajski 
Date:   Tue Oct 11 22:53:04 2016 +0200

 drop building intel drivers and nvidiabl for head kernels


i'm using nvidiabl. why stuff gets secretly dropped?

please announce if you're going to drop something.

# lsmod|grep nvidiabl
nvidiabl   53248  0

# uname -r
4.7.2-1

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