Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-08 Thread Jay McCarthy
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Shriram Krishnamurthi wrote: > (Maybe a better list manager would just use SHA1 codes as the message > indices, but that's not the world we have right now.) I'm pretty sure that's what google groups is doing. Jay -- Jay McCarthy Assistant Professor / Brigham

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-07 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
Thanks. Our admins are looking at doing a rollback so that the old URLs will continue to work. Some patching may be necessary. We'll keep you updated. (Maybe a better list manager would just use SHA1 codes as the message indices, but that's not the world we have right now.) Shriram ___

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-07 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
Good news; http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://list.cs.brown.edu/pipermail/plt-scheme/ it is archived up to June 2006 (which is better than nothing) Cheers, Stephen _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/list

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-07 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle
My apologies Shriram, I didn't wish to give the impression I was blaming anyone. (sysadmins always -unfairly- cop the blame when things go wrong) I must also apologise to Eli, as forwarding the message I mis-sent to him also gave the wrong impression. I was only suggesting an alternative to rollb

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-07 Thread Grant Rettke
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote: > If a rollback isn't possible, is it possible to get a snapshot of the > pages before the change- that way old emails can be found by a simple > change to their url. Why doesn't the archive keep the same url and the reindexed server tak

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-07 Thread Shriram Krishnamurthi
I'll find out. I think you're failing to realize that it's not the fault of the Brown admins. It's the fault of mailman for not creating persistent URLs! _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/plt-dev

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-06 Thread Eli Barzilay
On Apr 7, Sam TH wrote: > > That's extremely unfortunate. We have many, many links to those > URLs, including in mail messages themselves. Our entire history has > become less useful. I know. > Is there any way to persuade the Brown admins to undo this change? I don't think that it will be

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-06 Thread Sam TH
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Eli Barzilay wrote: > On Apr  5, David Van Horn wrote: >> I just noticed that the plt-scheme list archive URLs have shifted! >> >> You can see the difference by looking at what is in the Google cache >> vs. what is at the actual link for the second item here: >> >>

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-06 Thread Eli Barzilay
On Apr 5, David Van Horn wrote: > I just noticed that the plt-scheme list archive URLs have shifted! > > You can see the difference by looking at what is in the Google cache > vs. what is at the actual link for the second item here: > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=embedded+images+image-

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-05 Thread Grant Rettke
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:56 PM, David Van Horn wrote: > I think you've misunderstood, Grant.  What used to be at I see. I have a lot of links that are affected. _ For list-related administrative tasks: http://list.cs.brown.edu/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-05 Thread David Van Horn
Grant Rettke wrote: You can link here instead: http://list.cs.brown.edu/pipermail/plt-scheme/ I think you've misunderstood, Grant. What used to be at http://list.cs.brown.edu/pipermail/plt-scheme/2008-October/027808.html has changed. Until the next time Google sweeps over list.cs.brown.edu,

Re: [plt-dev] Moving archive URLs

2009-04-05 Thread Grant Rettke
You can link here instead: http://list.cs.brown.edu/pipermail/plt-scheme/ On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:47 PM, David Van Horn wrote: > I just noticed that the plt-scheme list archive URLs have shifted! > > You can see the difference by looking at what is in the Google cache vs. > what is at the actual