Re: [PLUG] Yes, there will be PLUG

2017-10-02 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 22:16:00 -0700
Michael Dexter  dijo:

>Meting announcement to come.
>
>Topic: Privacy options for HTTP

Will there be a discussion of DuckduckGo vs. Google and the rest?
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[PLUG] Yes, there will be PLUG

2017-10-02 Thread Michael Dexter

Thursday's meeting announcement to come.

Topic: Privacy options for HTTP

Michael Dexter
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Re: [PLUG] Printer help

2017-10-02 Thread Denis Heidtmann
More on this.  I (re)installed the printer after deleting it.  Now I see
cups has three entries: HP office jet 4630 series, HP office jet 4630
@Lenovo desktop, and HP office jet fax @Lenovo desktop. The first of these
has the address http://localhost:631/printers/HP-Officejet-4630-series, the
2nd and 3rd have ipps:// addresses.  The first also has a status of "idle,
waiting for job to complete."  The others are "idle."

I only installed it once; printing is successful.

I am baffled.

-Denis

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Denis Heidtmann 
wrote:

> That certainly seems to match my experience.  The mysteries of intricate
> software.
>
> -Denis
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Rich Shepard 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
>>
>> > Question is, what could be going on? I know that the information I have
>> > supplied is sketchy, but there is so much I could dig up that would not
>> be
>> > relevant, and I do not have a good sense what might be relevant, that I
>> > hope to see a barrage of question helping me narrow the scope of
>> > relevancy.
>>
>> Denis,
>>
>>For reason(s) unknown to me because I've not looked for them, CUPS
>> will,
>> occasionally, silently refuse to print jobs for a printer. When the
>> printer
>> status is 'ready to print' or 'idle' or 'accpting jobs' but nothing moves
>> from its print queue I've deleted the printer and re-added it with the
>> same
>> parameters. That always clears the blockage.
>>
>>This happens infrequently enough that I remove/add the printer and go
>> on.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] ISP near Gresham

2017-10-02 Thread Keith Lofstrom
> "Lou" == Lou   writes:
Lou> Hi guys. I would like to know your opinion and experiences with ISP
Lou> near Gresham. I recently moved to zip code 97230.  What is the best
Lou> ISP that will let me use my own modem and router? I like to tink
Lou> and install custom firmwares like DD-WRT and LibreCMC.

>From the 97230 zip code and "Gresham", we can infer that
Lou is in NW Gresham (between 162nd and 201st, between
Burnside and the Columbia).  I'm guessing he is in the
CenturyLink "zero infrastructure investment zone".  His
broadband options may be Comcast Residential ($$) and
Comcast Business ().  Regards DSL, see below.

On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 03:48:29PM -0700, Russell Senior wrote:
> The ILEC in Gresham is Frontier, I think (I don't live in Gresham, so
> that's a guess).  I don't know what Frontier does on fiber.  Comcast is
> almost certainly also available there.

My sister, in a condo in southwest Gresham, is on Frontier
DSL.  Not sure if she could get FIOS even if she could
afford it.  However, there are some new, small third party
providers specializing in new deployments to apartment
and condo complexes.  Much of the new construction in
the Pearl district is provisioned this way.  Also, some
new  apartment buildings out here in the 'burbs.

Here in Beaverton, we once had Verizon FIOS.  Verizon
was *excellent*.  We chose the slowest speed (15/5) at a
decent price, and it was a REAL 15/5, no Ookla Speed Test
"up to" nonsense.  I looked at scraps of the fiber optic
material they installed; single mode armored, 50 year
construction, and capable of terabit bandwidth if the
optical terminals are.  In the near term, they split
the feed to the street through a wavelength division
multiplexer, so we could have expected future upgrades
to "only" 10 Gbps unless they took out the WDM and fed
us directly from a terabit switch. 

Oh, the bandwidth marvels I anticipated ...

The ONT is a hulking beast on the garage wall, but it
provides POTS and CAT5 directly. A routable IP address
that hasn't changed in years.

And then Verizon sold the copper and fiber to Frontier.

Frontier fired the nice people in the Seattle regional
service center.  Now they connect us to Texas minwage
script monkeys after 45 minutes on hold.  They changed
the contract, and won't tell us what it is.  While we
still have 15/5 to the switch, and perhaps to the netflix
server co-located with the switch (we don't watch TV),
and of course to Ookla, the backhaul to anywhere else
(including Google) measures about 100 to 200 kbps, and
routes through Pleasanton CA now, rather than Seattle.
When bandwidth plunged a few weeks ago, the spam calls
increased from 5 per week to 15 per day.  Frontier may
be getting a kickback from the phone spammers.

Frontier stock price has dropped by a factor of 270
since their peak.  When I looked two weeks ago, market
cap was $1B and debt was around $20B, interest was
about $1.5B per year.  They are failing, almost dead,
and worth more as scrap.  Their biggest investor is
Vanguard Funds.  I presume Vanguard is incompetent
also; move your retirement savings elsewhere.

So, I could wait and hope someone with brains buys them 
and fixes them (if every adult in the US sends $10 to
Personal Telco, Russell Senior can do it).  Best case,
a savvy financial group buys just Oregon and Washington,
or merely Gresham and Washington County, for some
fraction of that $1B market cap, and we expand a
community fiber system from that still-capable core.
And hire back those helpful people in Seattle.

Or, I sit on my butt and watch them fail, go dark, and
I use the wifi at PSU.  Then wait in a very long queue
for a Comcast installation.  I DO NOT RECOMMEND FRONTIER.

However, I don't expect manna (or megabits) to rain from
the sky.  My wife uses Comcast Business in her northwest
Portland office building.  Spendy, competent and prompt
field service, routable IP (connected to our own firewall).
They turned off the damned XFINITY wifi and allowed us to
put a Personal Telco node on the firewall DMZ (Frontier
treats business customers well, and charge  for it).  

Sadly, soon after the Comcast installation, the office
building was bought by twits.  The new owners are tearing
the insides apart (and cut through the comcast cable
once) "remodelling" it, so we can't do the PTP node (or
even much business) there.  We expect her to be kicked
out when her lease runs out in November.

So, we will move the Comcast Business service home, and
figure out where we go from there.  Probably move the
business and house phone numbers to Ooma, and use their
enhanced VOIP service to a POTS converter box in the
house.  Both Ooma and Comcast offer "simultaneous ring",
which allows us to use one of the phone spam filtering
services (if you want a laugh and have the bandwidth,
look at the "Jolly Roger Telephone Company" TEDx talk).
It also will help my wife transition her business to
temporary or part time office space.

There's 

Re: [PLUG] ISP near Gresham

2017-10-02 Thread Michael Barnes
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Lou  wrote:

> Hi guys. I would like to know your opinion and experiences with ISP near
> Gresham. I recently moved to zip code 97230.
>
> What is the best ISP that will let me use my own modem and router? I like
> to tink and install custom firmwares like DD-WRT and LibreCMC.
>
>  I read that if I get Fiber-optic that one does not need a modem, and the
> router just have to be compatible with the ISP. Is that correct? But if the
> router for FiOS dosnt let me flash custom firmware. Then I will chose
> something else (e.g. cable).
>

These days, your ISP options are limited. Your choices are basically
whoever actually has connections to your residence, wireless providers in
your area, or satellite. There may be some great providers out there, but,
unless they have media connected to your house, there is no point in asking
about them. You indicated you are in 97230, which is Parkrose. Makes no
difference what ISPs are in Gresham. It looks like your choices are
CenturyLink DSL, XFinity cable, and possibly Frontier fiber (if they have
it to your house).

Michael
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Re: [PLUG] Configuring fc-cache search path

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, King Beowulf wrote:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontconfig

Ed,

   I am suitably chastised. I don't think of looking in wikipedia. I read the
man page and did a web search on using fontconfig, but didn't see a
wikipedia link. Sometimes when I'm searching for something duckduckgo brings
up the wikipedia page first thing, but I just don't think of going there
first for anything. Mea culpa!

> The config files to control system font behavior are here:
> /etc/fonts/fonts.conf

   I had looked at that and read 'don't edit this!' so I didn't. But just now
I did removing the two obsolete directories (Speedo and cyrillic) and adding
the superfluous TrueType.

> #Run this as root. If you put anything into other directories,
> #add to the list
> for fontdir in 100dpi 75dpi OTF Speedo TTF Type1 cyrillic misc; do
>/usr/bin/mkfontscale /usr/share/fonts/${fontdir}
>/usr/bin/mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/${fontdir}
> done

   OK. I had not run mkfontscale or mkfontdir before.

> /usr/bin/fc-cache -f -r -v

   I combined the options using -frsv; don't know if they must be separate.

   Well, having now done all this, the SBo directory and package name is no
longer seen on the page. And I still cannot see text on the Washington DOE's
database page. Guess I'll need to spend evenings this week trying to fix
whatever's broken.

   What a mess!

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Configuring fc-cache search path

2017-10-02 Thread King Beowulf
On 09/30/2017 07:10 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
>The fc-cache man page explains that the tool searches all system path
> directories for fonts, but not where this is controlled. Here I have removed
> the Speedo and cyrillic subdirectories under /usr/share/fonts/ yet they
> still appear in the searh list (with no fonts found).
> 
>While harmless I'm curious to learn where this path information is stored
> so I can remove the two non-existant directories.
> 
> Rich


Rich,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontconfig

The config files to control system font behavior are here:

/etc/fonts/fonts.conf

fonts directories listed in fonts.conf are scanned on boot via
/usr/bin/fc-cache -f (during boot when /etc/rc.M runs), but I don't
think mkfontscale runs at boot.

When you add OR subtract fonts, you can force a global rebuild with
something like:
---

#Run this as root. If you put anything into other directories,
#add to the list
for fontdir in 100dpi 75dpi OTF Speedo TTF Type1 cyrillic misc; do
/usr/bin/mkfontscale /usr/share/fonts/${fontdir}
/usr/bin/mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/${fontdir}
done

/usr/bin/fc-cache -f -r -v


If you are using ~/.fonts then do as user

mkfontscale ~/.fonts
mkfontdir ~/.fonts
fc-cache -f -r -v ~/.fonts

That should clear out any kruft and regenerate everything.
-Ed
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Re: [PLUG] ISP near Gresham

2017-10-02 Thread Russell Senior
> "Lou" == Lou   writes:

Lou> Hi guys. I would like to know your opinion and experiences with ISP
Lou> near Gresham. I recently moved to zip code 97230.  What is the best
Lou> ISP that will let me use my own modem and router? I like to tink
Lou> and install custom firmwares like DD-WRT and LibreCMC.

The ILEC in Gresham is Frontier, I think (I don't live in Gresham, so
that's a guess).  I don't know what Frontier does on fiber.  Comcast is
almost certainly also available there.

On Comcast, you have a choice to either own or rent the modem.  However,
in either case, Comcast controls the modem.  If you connect your own,
the first 15 minutes after plugging it in is occupied with Comcast
updating the firmware with their own.  If you want control, the thing to
do is a) buy the cable modem; b) get one with no wireless interfaces;
and c) use the modem in the default bridging mode and plug in your own
router on your side of the modem.

In CenturyLink land, where I reside, you can sometimes (depending on
where you live) get fiber.  With fiber, they install a thing called an
ONT (optical network termination).  In CL-land, the ONT provides an
ethernet connection to you, however, they talk over VLAN 201, and you
need to run pppoe over that VLAN to connect to the internet.  They will
sell you or rent you a router that does that, but you can also connect
your own gateway that can do VLANs on the WAN interface.  Most
consumer-off-the-shelf routers with stock firmware don't do that.  You
will need the pppoe username/password for your account for that to work.
I have set up a number of these on CL fiber.  Many CL reps won't
understand that you can use your own device and can avoid using theirs,
probably because in their world that is a fringe case.


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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Russell Senior wrote:

> SpiritOne is unlikely to be using dnsmasq for anything ISP critical.
> Dnsmasq is a combined DHCP/DNS server intended for embedded platforms,
> e.g. routers and such, although there are some wider uses.

   Such as small networks.

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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Russell Senior wrote:

> ssh shell.aracnet.com
>
> The hostname I get is radium. I notice I connected over ipv6, though I
> don't know if that's relevant, thought I'd mention it.

   Might be relevant. My systems are not set up to use ipv6 and I get no
response to ssh shell.aracnet.com.

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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread Russell Senior
> "Keith" == Keith Lofstrom  writes:

Keith> The bad guys may be exploiting the DNS flaw described below,
Keith> recently patched in the distro I'm currently upgrading.

FYI:

SpiritOne is unlikely to be using dnsmasq for anything ISP
critical. Dnsmasq is a combined DHCP/DNS server intended for embedded
platforms, e.g. routers and such, although there are some wider uses.


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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread Russell Senior
> "David" == David Fleck  writes:

David> On Sun, 2017-10-01 at 17:38 -0700, Russell Senior wrote:
>> Fwiw, it seems to be working for me, now.
>> 
>> I can ssh to my shell account there, and ping to/from my dsl service.


David> I can now successfully ping a number of their machines, but they
David> reject my password when I try to log in.  What machine do you use
David> for your shell account?

ssh shell.aracnet.com

The hostname I get is radium.  I notice I connected over ipv6, though I
don't know if that's relevant, thought I'd mention it.


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Re: [PLUG] Web pages not displaying body text

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Tomas Kuchta wrote:

> If I want to see website in text without formatting, I turn to w3m. It is
> command line browser, works quite well and is generally installed by
> default everywhere.

Tomas,

   I've used links and lynx often in the past. What I really want to do is
identify why some web sites (or individual pages within a site) no longer
correctly display. Better to fix the problem than to avoid it and have it
occur elsewhere.

   If you have diagnostic advice I'll gladly follow it.

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Wanted: automated incoming mail system test tool

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Keith Lofstrom wrote:


After a mail transfer failure (stemming from a subtle DNS
misconfiguration), I realized I have no automated tools to keep track of
the health of the incoming mail processes.


Keith,

  On my server logwatch sends me a daily e-mail message summarizing all
systems. The postfix log is extensive and shows me any configuration or
other errors I've made or that others have made. Right after that runs
pflogsumm runs (attached, but stripped on the mail list's copy). Rather than
waiting 42 hours to fix something you'll get a daily view of what happed the
day before.

Rich#!/bin/sh
#
# /etc/cron.daily/1pflogsumm
#
# This file is run on a daily basis to analyse your mail logs.
#
# The file is named "1pflogsumm" to ensure that it is run before logrotate
# when the /var/log/maillog files are rotated.
#
# More information at http://jimsun.linxnet.com/postfix_contrib.html
#
# uncomment the next line to completely disable the daily cronjob
# exit 0

# below added by RBS to try to find why script sometimes does not run
#set -x  > log_error.txt 2>&1

# Default location of the log file, if not learnt from LOGFILE
[ -z "${LOGFILE}" ] && [ -f /var/log/maillog ] && LOGFILE=/var/log/maillog

EXECUTABLE=/usr/local/bin/pflogsumm
TMPDIR=/etc/postfix # default directory for temporary executable, better 
than /tmp
TMPEXE=pfls.tmp.$$  # name of executable if Date::Calc module not available

#OPTIONS="-d today --verp_mung=2 --problems_first --iso_date_time  -q -u 10 -h 
10"
OPTIONS="-d yesterday --verp_mung=2 --problems_first --iso_date_time  -q -u 10 
-h 10"
SUBJECT="`hostname` Daily Mail Report for `LC_TIME=C date +\"%A, %d %B %Y\"`"
# Send report to $REPORT_TO if defined, or postmaster@"hostname" otherwise
[ -z "${REPORT_TO}" ] && REPORT_TO="rshep...@appl-ecosys.com"
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
SENDMAIL_OPTS="-oi -t -v"
POSTFIX=/usr/sbin/postfix

# Clean up when done or when aborting.
trap "test -r ${TMPDIR}/${TMPEXE} && rm -f ${TMPDIR}/${TMPEXE}" 0 1 2 3 15 

# uncomment the next line to disable retrieval of mail statistics
# exit 0

# Check mail log file exists or exit
[ ! -r "${LOGFILE}" ] && [ -r /var/log/maillog ] && LOGFILE=/var/log/maillog
[ ! -r "${LOGFILE}" ] && { echo "$0: Can not find a readable mail log file - 
exiting"; exit 1; }

# if we are not root, use a different TMPDIR
[ `id -u` = 0 ] || TMPDIR=/tmp

# Check pflogsumm.pl exists and exclude the use of Perl's Date::Calc module if 
it is not available
[ -r ${EXECUTABLE} ] || { echo "$0: ${EXECUTABLE} not found - exiting"; exit 1; 
}
[ -d ${TMPDIR} ] || { echo "$0: ${TMPDIR} is not a directory - exiting"; exit 
1; }
perl -e 'use Date::Calc;' 2>/dev/null || {
sed -e '/# ---Begin:/,/# ---End:/d' < ${EXECUTABLE} > ${TMPDIR}/${TMPEXE}
chmod u=rx,go= ${TMPDIR}/${TMPEXE} || echo "$0: warning - unable to set 
permissions on ${TMPDIR}/${TMPEXE}"
EXECUTABLE=${TMPDIR}/${TMPEXE}
}
 
# Ensure the ${EXECUTABLE} and sendmail binaries exist before proceeding
[ -x ${EXECUTABLE} ] || { echo "$0: ${EXECUTABLE} not executable - exiting"; 
exit 1; }
[ -x ${SENDMAIL} ] || { echo "$0: ${SENDMAIL} not found or not executable - 
exiting"; exit 1; }
(
cat 

Re: [PLUG] ISP near Gresham

2017-10-02 Thread Tomas Kuchta
I have experience with the C and CL companies.

C - let's you have your router connected to cable service as long as you
chose the one they support. You can use bare modem and connect any router
to it. Or you could get all in one device - modem + router. The best choice
depends on your house layout and aesthetics. I prefer separate devices for
modularity and choice.

CL fiber service gives you their modem/media converter. To that you can
connect your router if you wish.

In both cases, it is probably better to get their default most basic device
at install and then return it for refund. I think, the C company will
install your modem if you have it at install time. CL will supply initial
equipment.

Hope it helps a little,
Tomas

On Oct 2, 2017 12:28 PM, "Lou"  wrote:

> Hi guys. I would like to know your opinion and experiences with ISP near
> Gresham. I recently moved to zip code 97230.
>
> What is the best ISP that will let me use my own modem and router? I like
> to tink and install custom firmwares like DD-WRT and LibreCMC.
>
>  I read that if I get Fiber-optic that one does not need a modem, and the
> router just have to be compatible with the ISP. Is that correct? But if the
> router for FiOS dosnt let me flash custom firmware. Then I will chose
> something else (e.g. cable).
>
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[PLUG] Wanted: automated incoming mail system test tool

2017-10-02 Thread Keith Lofstrom
After a mail transfer failure (stemming from a subtle DNS
misconfiguration), I realized I have no automated tools to
keep track of the health of the incoming mail processes.

Imagine a tool that sends a short email every five minutes
to an email test address on my world-facing server.  If a
bot on the server does not get the emails regularly, it sets
an alarm level, increasing with log(2) of the dead time.

An applet on my laptop queries the mail status server for
the alarm level, perhaps displaying a tiny envelope with
a colored status number in my desktop toolbar.  0 for ok,
1 for 10 minutes no email, 2 for 20, 3 for 40 minutes,
etc., topping off at 9 for 2560 minutes or 42 hours
(FIX it NOW).  Click on the applet for details.  For
extra bonus points, initiate a debug tool.

If I can imagine it, somebody else has probably already
done it.  Does anybody know of such a tool? 

My programming sucks, and you don't want me writing it ...

Keith

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Re: [PLUG] ISP near Gresham

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

>   How near is near? East Gresham (97080) or West Gresham (96030)? I've been

   Oops. That's 97080 and 97030. Isn't 97230 Parkrose in Portland? Perhaps
Fairview would be closer to you than Gresham.

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] ISP near Gresham

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Lou wrote:

> Hi guys. I would like to know your opinion and experiences with ISP near
> Gresham. I recently moved to zip code 97230.

Lou,

   How near is near? East Gresham (97080) or West Gresham (96030)? I've been
happily using SpiritOne  since it was Aracnet.
Their office is in Beaverton, servers in downtown (west side) Portland and
tech support where they live. I've an ADSL connection via Frontier Comm's
copper with an ISP-provided Westell 6100F that replaced the original,
ancient, modem/bridge. That connects to my NetGear VPS-18 firewall
appliance/router. I run my own postfix smtpd (but because of hardware
issues at spiritone and frontier must relay outbound mail through the ISP.

> What is the best ISP that will let me use my own modem and router? I like
> to tink and install custom firmwares like DD-WRT and LibreCMC.

   Go for it.

> I read that if I get Fiber-optic that one does not need a modem, and the
> router just have to be compatible with the ISP. Is that correct? But if
> the router for FiOS dosnt let me flash custom firmware. Then I will chose
> something else (e.g. cable).

   Well, fiber here is from Comcast/Xfinity or Frontier.

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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Just so you know that you are not alone. Heard that on a building site
decades ago from a wise man responding to a frustrating moment... Enjoy:

I have been cutting this 4x4 so many times and it is still short!

I am sure going to keep cutting it until it is the right size!

-Tomas

On Oct 2, 2017 12:25 PM, "Keith Lofstrom"  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:36:37AM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
> > I think Mike C. was correct, that it's a DNS problem.
> > Perhaps one or more root servers was corrupted or attacked.
>
> The bad guys may be exploiting the DNS flaw described below,
> recently patched in the distro I'm currently upgrading.
>
> I bet the bad guys have tools for testing and probing DNS
> server integrity.  Why don't you and I have those tools?
> We build ephemeral new capabilities without diagnostic and
> monitoring tools for critical core capabilities.  Then we
> replace core capabilities ( systemd ), trading a heap of
> old known bugs for a wilderness of new unknown bugs.
>
> I'm all for replacing rickety designs with clean ones,
> but based on demonstrable metrics, not aesthetics,
> after a shitstorm of bounty-driven white-hat attacks.
> Sometimes there are empirical reasons for rickety.
>
> Measure twice, cut once.  When softwave becomes real
> engineering, perhaps we will learn how to do that.
>
> Keith
>
> ---
> Synopsis:  Critical: dnsmasq security update
> Advisory ID:   SLSA-2017:2838-1
> Issue Date:2017-10-02
> CVE Numbers:   CVE-2017-14491
> --
> Security Fix(es):
>
> * A heap buffer overflow was found in dnsmasq in the code responsible for
> building DNS replies. An attacker could send crafted DNS packets to
> dnsmasq which would cause it to crash or, potentially, execute arbitrary
> code. (CVE-2017-14491)
> --
> SL6
>   x86_64
> dnsmasq-debuginfo-2.48-18.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
> dnsmasq-2.48-18.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
> dnsmasq-utils-2.48-18.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
>   i386
> dnsmasq-debuginfo-2.48-18.el6_9.i686.rpm
> dnsmasq-2.48-18.el6_9.i686.rpm
> dnsmasq-utils-2.48-18.el6_9.i686.rpm
>
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[PLUG] ISP near Gresham

2017-10-02 Thread Lou
Hi guys. I would like to know your opinion and experiences with ISP near 
Gresham. I recently moved to zip code 97230.

What is the best ISP that will let me use my own modem and router? I like to 
tink and install custom firmwares like DD-WRT and LibreCMC.

 I read that if I get Fiber-optic that one does not need a modem, and the 
router just have to be compatible with the ISP. Is that correct? But if the 
router for FiOS dosnt let me flash custom firmware. Then I will chose something 
else (e.g. cable).

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Re: [PLUG] Web pages not displaying body text

2017-10-02 Thread Tomas Kuchta
If I want to see website in text without formatting, I turn to w3m. It is
command line browser, works quite well and is generally installed by
default everywhere.

If you give it a try, read some quick guide from interwebs first to learn
what you are dealing with.

If you like command line and vi/emacs you will likely enjoy this one.

Tomas

On Oct 2, 2017 10:57 AM, "Rich Shepard"  wrote:

On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, King Beowulf wrote:

> Seems to work ok here, Firefox 52.4.0ESR and Chromium 61.0.3163.100 both
> 64-bit.
>
> Perhaps flush your browser cache and see if it pulls a fresh copy o fthe
> css style sheet?

Ed,

   I've the same versions installed here. Flushing firefox's cache made no
difference and chromium shuts down as soon as I type a URL in the address
bar. Strange.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:36:37AM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote:
> I think Mike C. was correct, that it's a DNS problem.
> Perhaps one or more root servers was corrupted or attacked.

The bad guys may be exploiting the DNS flaw described below,
recently patched in the distro I'm currently upgrading.

I bet the bad guys have tools for testing and probing DNS
server integrity.  Why don't you and I have those tools? 
We build ephemeral new capabilities without diagnostic and
monitoring tools for critical core capabilities.  Then we
replace core capabilities ( systemd ), trading a heap of
old known bugs for a wilderness of new unknown bugs. 

I'm all for replacing rickety designs with clean ones,
but based on demonstrable metrics, not aesthetics,
after a shitstorm of bounty-driven white-hat attacks.
Sometimes there are empirical reasons for rickety.

Measure twice, cut once.  When softwave becomes real
engineering, perhaps we will learn how to do that.

Keith

---
Synopsis:  Critical: dnsmasq security update
Advisory ID:   SLSA-2017:2838-1
Issue Date:2017-10-02
CVE Numbers:   CVE-2017-14491
--
Security Fix(es):

* A heap buffer overflow was found in dnsmasq in the code responsible for
building DNS replies. An attacker could send crafted DNS packets to
dnsmasq which would cause it to crash or, potentially, execute arbitrary
code. (CVE-2017-14491)
--
SL6
  x86_64
dnsmasq-debuginfo-2.48-18.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
dnsmasq-2.48-18.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
dnsmasq-utils-2.48-18.el6_9.x86_64.rpm
  i386
dnsmasq-debuginfo-2.48-18.el6_9.i686.rpm
dnsmasq-2.48-18.el6_9.i686.rpm
dnsmasq-utils-2.48-18.el6_9.i686.rpm

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Re: [PLUG] Web pages not displaying body text

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, King Beowulf wrote:

> Seems to work ok here, Firefox 52.4.0ESR and Chromium 61.0.3163.100 both
> 64-bit.
>
> Perhaps flush your browser cache and see if it pulls a fresh copy o fthe
> css style sheet?

Ed,

   I've the same versions installed here. Flushing firefox's cache made no
difference and chromium shuts down as soon as I type a URL in the address
bar. Strange.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Dick Steffens wrote:

> I have a friend with SpiritOne. She called and learned, "that there is a
> global problem that they’re working on. There is not estimated time for
> the repairs being completed."

Dick,

   I think Mike C. was correct, that it's a DNS problem. Perhaps one or more
root servers was corrupted or attacked.

   I'm still getting bounces of 'domain unknown' from Saturday morning. But
my more recent messages seem to all arrive at their destinations.

Thanks for the update,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Printer help

2017-10-02 Thread Denis Heidtmann
That certainly seems to match my experience.  The mysteries of intricate
software.

-Denis

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
>
> > Question is, what could be going on? I know that the information I have
> > supplied is sketchy, but there is so much I could dig up that would not
> be
> > relevant, and I do not have a good sense what might be relevant, that I
> > hope to see a barrage of question helping me narrow the scope of
> > relevancy.
>
> Denis,
>
>For reason(s) unknown to me because I've not looked for them, CUPS will,
> occasionally, silently refuse to print jobs for a printer. When the printer
> status is 'ready to print' or 'idle' or 'accpting jobs' but nothing moves
> from its print queue I've deleted the printer and re-added it with the same
> parameters. That always clears the blockage.
>
>This happens infrequently enough that I remove/add the printer and go
> on.
>
> HTH,
>
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Web pages not displaying body text

2017-10-02 Thread King Beowulf
On 10/02/2017 09:31 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
>I'd like suggestions for web search phrases because what I've tried
> haven't produced useful hints.
> 
>Accessing the Washington Dept. of Ecology's web site
>  I see most text, except for the window with their
> twitter tweets. When I follow the orange link to ">> Databases" none of the
> body text displays.
> 
---

Rich

Seems to work ok here, Firefox 52.4.0ESR and Chromium 61.0.3163.100 both
64-bit.

Perhaps flush your browser cache and see if it pulls a fresh copy o fthe
css style sheet?

-Ed
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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread Dick Steffens
On 10/02/2017 08:14 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
>>If I see a response from tech support I'll forward it to the list.
> Nothing from tech support, nothing on their web site since 25 Sept. <...>

I have a friend with SpiritOne. She called and learned, "that there is a 
global problem that they’re working on.  There is not estimated time for 
the repairs being completed."


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[PLUG] Web pages not displaying body text

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
   I'd like suggestions for web search phrases because what I've tried
haven't produced useful hints.

   Accessing the Washington Dept. of Ecology's web site
 I see most text, except for the window with their
twitter tweets. When I follow the orange link to ">> Databases" none of the
body text displays.

   The page source code has a link to their css: 
and that file has the acceptable fonts for all body text as
verdana,arial,sans-serif:

/* ecy2011.css  UPDATED july 2016 = adding new menu bar*/
/*** ALL PAGES ***/
body {
font-family:verdana,arial,sans-serif;
font-size:11px;
line-height:150%;
margin-top:0px;
margin-left:0px;
color:#036;
background-color:#607e7a;
background: url("/images/bodybg.gif");
background-repeat: repeat;
  }

   This host has Arial Regular and Bold installed as well as several other
san-serif type faces. I want to learn why they're not found in
/usr/share/fonts/TTF/ or ../OTF/.

   The contents of these two directories are the same as those for a long
time (except for a few Asian language fonts and decorative fonts).

   A search phrase, "web site does not display body text," brings up many
hits by developers about their text not displaying on mobile devices or
similar threads, not any I found from a browser user's perspective. Your
thoughts on other search terms will be helpful.

Rich


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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

>   If I see a response from tech support I'll forward it to the list.

   Nothing from tech support, nothing on their web site since 25 Sept. Last
evening and this morning I received bounces for 4 messages sent after 5:00
pm Friday and about 7:30am Saturday. All four were returned because the
domain name could not be found. Looks like a DNS issue to my
non-professional eyes.

   Once I fixed all the new glitches yesterday in upgrading postfix from
3.2.2 to 3.2.3 my outbound messages to mail lists are all delivered; I
assume that those to individuals are also delivered.

   Hope everyone else is experiencing normal e-mail via or with spiritone
now.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Printer help

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, Denis Heidtmann wrote:

> Question is, what could be going on? I know that the information I have
> supplied is sketchy, but there is so much I could dig up that would not be
> relevant, and I do not have a good sense what might be relevant, that I
> hope to see a barrage of question helping me narrow the scope of
> relevancy.

Denis,

   For reason(s) unknown to me because I've not looked for them, CUPS will,
occasionally, silently refuse to print jobs for a printer. When the printer
status is 'ready to print' or 'idle' or 'accpting jobs' but nothing moves
from its print queue I've deleted the printer and re-added it with the same
parameters. That always clears the blockage.

   This happens infrequently enough that I remove/add the printer and go on.

HTH,

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] What's up (or down) with spiritone/aracnet?

2017-10-02 Thread David Fleck
On Sun, 2017-10-01 at 17:38 -0700, Russell Senior wrote:
> Fwiw, it seems to be working for me, now.
> 
> I can ssh to my shell account there, and ping to/from my dsl service.


I can now successfully ping a number of their machines, but they reject
my password when I try to log in.  What machine do you use for your
shell account?

From here, the website is "up" in the sense that it returns a formatted
configuration error page rather than timing out.

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