Re: [PLUG] Using crosh shell on a Chromebook ( was: Chromebooks and Linux )

2022-01-20 Thread Robert Citek
Here's the output from 'free' in crosh with the Debian VM running: crosh> shell chronos@localhost / $ sudo su - localhost ~ # free -tm totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 38062732 231 287 842 369 Swap:

Re: [PLUG] Using crosh shell on a Chromebook ( was: Chromebooks and Linux )

2022-01-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
Robert, The Chromebook that is at the top of my list at the moment has only 4GB RAM. Installing and running Debian (or others) in a container worries me. When you are running Linux in a container, how much RAM is taken in all by Chrome OS and Debian? I plan to use the tablet mostly for reading

Re: [PLUG] Chromebooks and Linux (oops)

2022-01-20 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 04:14:25PM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: ... > Offlist - ... Oops, PEBKAC ... next time delete CC line before sending. My grumpy comments about general literacy and google perfidy were intended for a fellow Grumpy Old Man and do not belong on the plug list, sorry. Keith

Re: [PLUG] Chromebooks and Linux

2022-01-20 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:44:21PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > I had read about the end period for Chrome OS updates, although I was > unaware that 2029 was the end date for the Ideapad 5 13.3. I was > concentrating on getting Linux installed on it, or on whatever else I > ended up buying.

Re: [PLUG] Connect BT keyboard to headless Raspberry

2022-01-20 Thread Bill Barry
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 4:36 PM Eric House wrote: > > Your idea should work. I sort of tested it with the equipment at hand. I > > > > first configured the Pi to boot to console using raspi-config. I added > a > > > line to the .profile on the Pi to start screen > > > screen -S raScreen > > > >

Re: [PLUG] Using crosh shell on a Chromebook ( was: Chromebooks and Linux )

2022-01-20 Thread Robert Citek
Same scenario here. I use the Chromebook for its standard features: browsing, email, chat, music. I use the Linux VM ( container? ) with Debian to do some light work in the shell or in a Docker container. For heavier loads, I use the cloud ( AWS, GCP, Azure, etc. ). I have Docker containers that

Re: [PLUG] Connect BT keyboard to headless Raspberry

2022-01-20 Thread Russell Senior
Just to say a few words in defense of GNU screen. Screen does something for me that tmux can't (or at least not as conveniently, you can have tmux launch other programs, while screen does it natively), and that's support for serial connections. I have a "fleet" of embedded devices with usb-serial

Re: [PLUG] Connect BT keyboard to headless Raspberry

2022-01-20 Thread Eric House
> Your idea should work. I sort of tested it with the equipment at hand. I > > first configured the Pi to boot to console using raspi-config. I added a > > line to the .profile on the Pi to start screen > > screen -S raScreen > > > > then in the .screenrc I have > > multiuser on > > > > This

Re: [PLUG] Using crosh shell on a Chromebook ( was: Chromebooks and Linux )

2022-01-20 Thread Timothy Scoppetta
My only experience with running linux (ubuntu) natively was with the original CR-48 prototype devices. On those linux ran like a dream but the touchpad was a nightmare with no drivers to tweak. The installation process was a breeze even back when chromebooks were new . My plan has always been to

Re: [PLUG] Chromebooks and Linux

2022-01-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:05:21 -0800 Johnathan Mantey dijo: >I was going to broach this subject as well Galen. I didn't because the >original poster decided not to pursue a solution to the problem posed. >I only recently discovered this "feature". I was already unimpressed >with Chromebooks based

Re: [PLUG] Chromebooks and Linux

2022-01-20 Thread Johnathan Mantey
I was going to broach this subject as well Galen. I didn't because the original poster decided not to pursue a solution to the problem posed. I only recently discovered this "feature". I was already unimpressed with Chromebooks based on my personal experience with one. The end of support policy

Re: [PLUG] Chromebooks and Linux

2022-01-20 Thread Galen Seitz
FYI to John and anyone else considering purchasing a Chromebook. If you are intending to use ChromeOS (i.e. as a normal Chromebook), you should check the end of updates date before purchasing. Sometimes when you spot a really good deal on a Chromebook, it is because the Auto Update

[PLUG] Using crosh shell on a Chromebook ( was: Chromebooks and Linux )

2022-01-20 Thread Robert Citek
Thanks for your post, Timothy. I have almost the same environment here: read/listen to books on smartphone or tablet or Kindle, otherwise use a Chromebook ( rarely, I'll use my MacBookPro). In fact, if I need a "real" linux ( or Windows ) environment, I just create one in the cloud and then