Is ibot (aka jbot, infobot and many others) a girl?

2007-10-16 Thread Clint Savage
I'm under the impression that I either missed something, or that most people understand that the blootbot maintained by Tim Riker is, at least in our channels (#utah, #utos, #ubuntu-utah, #uphpu, etc), indeed *is* a girl. I got this impression from several macros and other things. The question

Re: Is ibot (aka jbot, infobot and many others) a girl?

2007-10-16 Thread Corey Edwards
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 07:57 -0600, Clint Savage wrote: I'm under the impression that I either missed something, or that most people understand that the blootbot maintained by Tim Riker is, at least in our channels (#utah, #utos, #ubuntu-utah, #uphpu, etc), indeed *is* a girl. I got this

packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Michael L Torrie
This is for any iptables and networking gurus out there. I have a server that sits on both the BYU private and public network. The one NIC is on a 10.x.x.x/24 network, and the other is on the 128.187.x.x/24 network. This is, of course a bit of a problem, because there can be only one default

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Dave Smith
Andrew McNabb wrote: If I were designing the BYU network, I would give everything 128.187 addresses, and I would use a novel tool called a firewall to limit outside access to private machines. I guess that makes me a heretic That's how it was in 1997 when I had a PC on the BYU resnet, well

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Corey Edwards
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 10:49 -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 08:58:59AM -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: If I was designing the BYU network, I would have made public address translate to private addresses, and split the DNS. That way the world would see servers on the

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Steven Alligood
It shall never be eradicated, since everyone insists on the ipv4 concept and even several of the paths to ipv6 include the use of a NAT for your legacy stuff. It is a scourge that too many embrace to eliminate. -Steve Corey Edwards wrote: Heretic, maybe, but it also makes you sane. NAT is

Re: Is ibot (aka jbot, infobot and many others) a girl?

2007-10-16 Thread Clint Savage
On 10/16/07, Corey Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 07:57 -0600, Clint Savage wrote: I'm under the impression that I either missed something, or that most people understand that the blootbot maintained by Tim Riker is, at least in our channels (#utah, #utos,

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Michael L Torrie
Steven Alligood wrote: It shall never be eradicated, since everyone insists on the ipv4 concept and even several of the paths to ipv6 include the use of a NAT for your legacy stuff. Sure, but the IPv6 stuff is actually quite cool. You can, for example, map an IPv6 address to each of your

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-10-16 Thread Matthew Frederico
On 9/26/07, Sterling Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking about the American Fork City FTTN Ethernet network? The American Fork system is quite different from the Utopia/iProvo system. It was the old Airswitch network and it shows it's age every time a storm comes up. And it

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:58 -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: This is for any iptables and networking gurus out there. I have a server that sits on both the BYU private and public network. The one NIC is on a 10.x.x.x/24 network, and the other is on the 128.187.x.x/24 network. This is, of

Re: Is ibot (aka jbot, infobot and many others) a girl?

2007-10-16 Thread Brandon Stout
Clint Savage wrote: I'm under the impression that I either missed something, or that most people understand that the blootbot maintained by Tim Riker is, at least in our channels (#utah, #utos, #ubuntu-utah, #uphpu, etc), indeed *is* a girl. I got this impression from several macros and

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Michael L Torrie
Lonnie Olson wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:58 -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: This is for any iptables and networking gurus out there. I have a server that sits on both the BYU private and public network. The one NIC is on a 10.x.x.x/24 network, and the other is on the 128.187.x.x/24

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Corey Edwards
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 12:19 -0600, Lonnie Olson wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:58 -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: This is for any iptables and networking gurus out there. I have a server that sits on both the BYU private and public network. The one NIC is on a 10.x.x.x/24 network, and the

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Corey Edwards
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 13:05 -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: I'm sure a packet would make it back to the requesting computer, even if it was going out the wrong interface. However, the calling computer would likely discard it, since it's not coming from the same ip address as the original

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 13:05 -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: I'm sure a packet would make it back to the requesting computer, even if it was going out the wrong interface. However, the calling computer would likely discard it, since it's not coming from the same ip address as the original

Re: [OT] Contract Programmer

2007-10-16 Thread Steve
Whats the pay look like? On 10/16/07, Daniel Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a contract programmer. The need is for a 3 month project. The skills needed are PHP / MySQL / Perl / HTML-CSS. The other big skill needed is the ability to go on site and listen to high end executives and

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-10-16 Thread Steve
Airswitch the name sure brings back memories doesn't it? Take a look at what I found... http://www.isp-planet.com/profiles/airswitch.html On 10/16/07, Matthew Frederico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/07, Sterling Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking about the American Fork

Re: packet mangling and routing

2007-10-16 Thread Michael L Torrie
Corey Edwards wrote: Example routing table: Destination Genmask Gateway Iface 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 128.187.0.1 eth0 128.187.0.0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 eth0 10.2.0.0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 eth1 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 10.2.0.1

Re: NAT evil scourge?

2007-10-16 Thread Kenneth Burgener
Corey Edwards wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 10:49 -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 08:58:59AM -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: If I was designing the BYU network, I would have made public address translate to private addresses, and split the DNS. That way the world would see

Re: BYU Unix User Group to be Streamed Live!

2007-10-16 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 10/5/07, Andrew Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's probably another way to do this. Maybe I'll look into pulling from vnc for flumotion. Turns out pulling vnc into flumotion should be possible. Thomas Vander Stichele says he did something very similar with his local X server:

Re: NAT evil scourge?

2007-10-16 Thread Corey Edwards
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 15:19 -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: Kenneth Burgener wrote: Out of curiosity why do you claim NAT is an evil scourge? Because it breaks the idea of peer-to-peer connections and requires all kinds of hacks and workarounds to really get functionality. And it's not just

Re: Is ibot (aka jbot, infobot and many others) a girl?

2007-10-16 Thread Steve
My understanding was that anything which does not have the plumbing required for procreation, would inherently be hermaphroditic. Therefore properly, it, should be an it. On 10/16/07, Brandon Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clint Savage wrote: I'm under the impression that I either missed

Re: Is ibot (aka jbot, infobot and many others) a girl?

2007-10-16 Thread Joseph Hall
Um. She's a girl. Haven't you noticed how when guys talk to her, they stare at her bot and not her i? Hello! My i's up here! On 10/16/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding was that anything which does not have the plumbing required for procreation, would inherently be

CS lab project. ?

2007-10-16 Thread rog
30 july 2007 : Looking for a NEW GParted-LiveCD Maintainer ! and still looking. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/news.php /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Is ibot (aka jbot, infobot and many others) a girl?

2007-10-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 07:06:00PM -0400, Steve wrote: My understanding was that anything which does not have the plumbing required for procreation, would inherently be hermaphroditic. No, it would be asexual, e.g. an amoeba. An hermaphrodite has both sets of genitalia. So those of you who