Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-19 Thread Kevin Fries
UEFI is not the problem. As a matter of fact, it probably helps the Linux enthusiasts break the Microsoft Monopoly better than anything I have seen in a long time. UEFI is designed such that there is one one boot secror. Instead, it had 128 boot records and that number can be extended

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-19 Thread techlists
And maybe it was some confusion on my part. I did have to turn off the UEFI? with On my Dell when I installed Linux on it. On 2014-07-19 10:21, Kevin Fries wrote: UEFI is not the problem. As a matter of fact,  it probably helps the Linux enthusiasts break the Microsoft Monopoly better than

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-19 Thread Kevin Fries
Turning off uefi will turn off secure boot also. But secure boot is your actual problem. Kevin On Jul 19, 2014 10:26 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: And maybe it was some confusion on my part. I did have to turn off the UEFI? with On my Dell when I installed Linux on it. On

Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread techlists
Better than a Chromebook? http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-3531-laptop/pd?oc=fndoc3001bmodel_id=inspiron-15-3531-laptop --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread Jim March
If we check the CPU specs: http://ark.intel.com/products/81071/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2830-1M-Cache-up-to-2_41-GHz ...we see that surpprisingly, it HAS the Intel VTx hardware virtualization extension. That means getting a virtual machine running on it for at least basic stuff will work at

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread Matt Graham
On 2014-07-18 10:09, Jim March wrote: ...we see that surpprisingly, it HAS the Intel VTx hardware virtualization Upshot: you could do real work with that puppy, with a modern Linux distro and even light virtualization The price is pretty good. I'd like to see some manufacturers offer

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread Kevin Fries
Yea but it runs Windows 8, the worst OS since ME. The Chrome book will save you in usability feature, plus not having to buy an office siite, and an antivirus, etc. I'd go with the chromebook. But that's me. Kevin On Jul 18, 2014 11:51 AM, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: Thanks for your

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it will run Linux though. I think the new HP's will not. Reason? Last year when I bought a new Dell workstation. After telling them I

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread techlists
On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it will run Linux though. I think the new HP's will not. Reason? I think it has something to do with the bios.

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread Jerry Snitselaar
On Fri Jul 18 14, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it will run Linux though. I think the new HP's will not.

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread Todd Cole
we the installfest crew have not seen any modern computers that will not run linux and only a few that have issues that are minor like power management issues. or if you find one please stop by the installfest so we can test/verify why what causing issues Todd windows 8 tablets are supposed to be

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread Kevin Fries
You are correct. Most vendors that I have seen allow you to turn off the lockdown. Essentially, the question is if you can install an OS without the special certification key. If that feature is enabled in the bios, you can never install an thing but Windows on that machine... the bios won't

Re: Cheap Dell Laptops

2014-07-18 Thread techlists
On 2014-07-18 19:49, Jerry Snitselaar wrote: On Fri Jul 18 14, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote: From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it will run Linux