Re: Proprietary Subscription Software: was Photoshop

2022-08-31 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 07:34 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Ok, throw mud on my head or tomatoes at my face > > I use the subscription Canva : https://www.canva.com/ .  Normally I > would not subscribe to a design software.  In this case it made sense > since I will

Re: Proprietary Subscription Software: was Photoshop

2022-08-31 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Ok, throw mud on my head or tomatoes at my face I use the subscription Canva : https://www.canva.com/ . Normally I would not subscribe to a design software. In this case it made sense since I will consistently need 4 - 20+ pictures a month and the ability to make them into whatever

Re: Proprietary Subscription Software: was Photoshop

2022-08-31 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
Check out VimOutliner. The first thing to do is change the precommand from "\\" to ".." It was changed by the maintainer after the maintainer after me to fulfill some Debian mandate. I might fork the darn thing and bring it back to its true roots. When I designed VimOutliner, I made sure to

Re: Proprietary Subscription Software: was Photoshop

2022-08-30 Thread JD Austin via PLUG-discuss
That's why I'm still using CS6 (when I'm not just using Gimp instead); not going to pay for a perpetual subscription for something I don't use daily, They might want me to do it, but I'm not paying forever for a piece of software that gets marginally better if at all over time. I'm not a fan of

Re: Proprietary Subscription Software: was Photoshop

2022-08-30 Thread James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss
we're talking about the same thing in gaming. always online games means the game is going to go away at some point when the company shuts down the servers. that's baked into the idea. no longer will we be able to pull 20 y/o games out of the closet and play 'em. it makes sense to companies to

Re: Proprietary Subscription Software: was Photoshop

2022-08-30 Thread Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss
Good to see another Grandview user here! I originally used PC-Outline that was included with WordStar all those years ago, but later found Grandview was an upgraded version. I run it now under DosBox. (WordStar, too, when I really need to write seriously.) I'm really surprised that there is

Proprietary Subscription Software: was Photoshop

2022-08-30 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 08:56 -0700, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Adobe doesn't sell CS6 anymore; they're all about the subscription. > What's really cool about the proprietary subscription model is that once you're not subscribed, you've lost your data. Who wouldn't enjoy a situation like