Re: Debian Stable vs Ubuntu LTS vs Others for a NAS

[Brien Dieterle]

I would just go with Debian Stable.  You're already comfortable with this.
Why not?  Then you'd have all the flexibility you need down the road if you
decide to do more with the box.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Matthew Crews 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm sure this comes up every so often.
>
> I'm in the process of repurposing an older desktop machine I have lying
> around and turning it into a NAS. I would like to do as little system
> administration as possible once it is set up. I would like relatively
> recent packages too, but I do NOT want to use a rolling release system.
>
> I haven't decided on which distribution to use. My top three choices:
>
> 1. Debian Stable (presently 9.2)
> 2. Ubuntu LTS (presently 16.04, soon will be 18.04)
> 3. Others
>
> Debian Stretch was recently released, and so the packages are newer than
> what's found in Ubuntu 16.04. However, Ubuntu 18.04 is just around the
> corner and will contain newer packages than Debian Stretch.
>
> Anoption is also to install Ubuntu 17.10, upgrade to 18.04 in April, and
> keep it on the LTS path going forward, but I feel that could be a recipe
> for disaster. Not terribly comfortable with running non-LTS Ubuntu on this
> machine, though.
>
> I'm most comfortable with Debian-based distros, but I'm open to using
> other distros if they do the job well, such as CentOS, OpenSUSE, and the
> like. I'm open to using a BSD (like FreeNAS) if it does the job and my
> hardware works for it.
>
> What's everyone's experiences? For my use case, what is the preference?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Matt
>
>
>
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Re: Debian Stable vs Ubuntu LTS vs Others for a NAS

[Matthew Crews]

FreeNAS sounds like a good plan, but the main problem I have is that my wifi 
adapter needs a non-free firmware, and I don't know enough about BSD to 
find/instal compatible drivers.

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On Nov 20, 2017, 19:56, Steve B wrote:

> I'll second that. FreeNAS or even NAS4Free is a great out of the box NAS 
> solution.
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. 
>  wrote:
>
>> If you are looking for a NAS solution, then I would recommend FreeNAS 
>> highly. The web interface is easy to use, plus you get first class ZFS 
>> support.
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2017 2:10 PM, "Matthew Crews"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm sure this comes up every so often.
>>>
>>> I'm in the process of repurposing an older desktop machine I have lying 
>>> around and turning it into a NAS. I would like to do as little system 
>>> administration as possible once it is set up. I would like relatively 
>>> recent packages too, but I do NOT want to use a rolling release system.
>>>
>>> I haven't decided on which distribution to use. My top three choices:
>>>
>>> 1. Debian Stable (presently 9.2)
>>> 2. Ubuntu LTS (presently 16.04, soon will be 18.04)
>>> 3. Others
>>>
>>> Debian Stretch was recently released, and so the packages are newer than 
>>> what's found in Ubuntu 16.04. However, Ubuntu 18.04 is just around the 
>>> corner and will contain newer packages than Debian Stretch.
>>>
>>> Anoption is also to install Ubuntu 17.10, upgrade to 18.04 in April, and 
>>> keep it on the LTS path going forward, but I feel that could be a recipe 
>>> for disaster. Not terribly comfortable with running non-LTS Ubuntu on this 
>>> machine, though.
>>>
>>> I'm most comfortable with Debian-based distros, but I'm open to using other 
>>> distros if they do the job well, such as CentOS, OpenSUSE, and the like. 
>>> I'm open to using a BSD (like FreeNAS) if it does the job and my hardware 
>>> works for it.
>>>
>>> What's everyone's experiences? For my use case, what is the preference?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
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Re: SBG 6700 AC

[Michael]

Top light solid. Second light blinking. 3rd and 4th light out bottom two
lights solid

On Nov 20, 2017 10:06 PM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

> Define not working
>
> On Nov 20, 2017 6:58 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>> I bought a Arris SBG 6700 AC and it does not work any advice on how to
>> get it to work?
>>
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Re: SBG 6700 AC

[Stephen Partington]

And are you talking about this guy?

http://www.arris.com/surfboard/products/wi-fi-cable-modems/sbg6700-ac/

On Nov 20, 2017 8:06 PM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

> Define not working
>
> On Nov 20, 2017 6:58 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
>
>> I bought a Arris SBG 6700 AC and it does not work any advice on how to
>> get it to work?
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Re: SBG 6700 AC

[Stephen Partington]

Define not working

On Nov 20, 2017 6:58 PM, "Michael"  wrote:

> I bought a Arris SBG 6700 AC and it does not work any advice on how to get
> it to work?
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Re: Debian Stable vs Ubuntu LTS vs Others for a NAS

[Steve B]

I'll second that. FreeNAS or even NAS4Free is a great out of the box NAS
solution.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <
herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you are looking for a NAS solution, then I would recommend FreeNAS
> highly. The web interface is easy to use, plus you get first class ZFS
> support.
>
> On Nov 20, 2017 2:10 PM, "Matthew Crews" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm sure this comes up every so often.
>>
>> I'm in the process of repurposing an older desktop machine I have lying
>> around and turning it into a NAS. I would like to do as little system
>> administration as possible once it is set up. I would like relatively
>> recent packages too, but I do NOT want to use a rolling release system.
>>
>> I haven't decided on which distribution to use. My top three choices:
>>
>> 1. Debian Stable (presently 9.2)
>> 2. Ubuntu LTS (presently 16.04, soon will be 18.04)
>> 3. Others
>>
>> Debian Stretch was recently released, and so the packages are newer than
>> what's found in Ubuntu 16.04. However, Ubuntu 18.04 is just around the
>> corner and will contain newer packages than Debian Stretch.
>>
>> Anoption is also to install Ubuntu 17.10, upgrade to 18.04 in April, and
>> keep it on the LTS path going forward, but I feel that could be a recipe
>> for disaster. Not terribly comfortable with running non-LTS Ubuntu on this
>> machine, though.
>>
>> I'm most comfortable with Debian-based distros, but I'm open to using
>> other distros if they do the job well, such as CentOS, OpenSUSE, and the
>> like. I'm open to using a BSD (like FreeNAS) if it does the job and my
>> hardware works for it.
>>
>> What's everyone's experiences? For my use case, what is the preference?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
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Re: OT: How to print a pdf document larger?

[Stephen Partington]

Some print drivers will give an option fit to page with an enlarge.
Otherwise you may have to modify the doc.

On Nov 20, 2017 4:51 PM,  wrote:

> Is there a way to print a pdf document that is
> formatted to 6" x 9" to an 8.5" x 11" page?
>
> And how can one do that for a multi-page book?
>
>
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Re: Debian Stable vs Ubuntu LTS vs Others for a NAS

[Herminio Hernandez, Jr.]

If you are looking for a NAS solution, then I would recommend FreeNAS
highly. The web interface is easy to use, plus you get first class ZFS
support.

On Nov 20, 2017 2:10 PM, "Matthew Crews"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm sure this comes up every so often.
>
> I'm in the process of repurposing an older desktop machine I have lying
> around and turning it into a NAS. I would like to do as little system
> administration as possible once it is set up. I would like relatively
> recent packages too, but I do NOT want to use a rolling release system.
>
> I haven't decided on which distribution to use. My top three choices:
>
> 1. Debian Stable (presently 9.2)
> 2. Ubuntu LTS (presently 16.04, soon will be 18.04)
> 3. Others
>
> Debian Stretch was recently released, and so the packages are newer than
> what's found in Ubuntu 16.04. However, Ubuntu 18.04 is just around the
> corner and will contain newer packages than Debian Stretch.
>
> Anoption is also to install Ubuntu 17.10, upgrade to 18.04 in April, and
> keep it on the LTS path going forward, but I feel that could be a recipe
> for disaster. Not terribly comfortable with running non-LTS Ubuntu on this
> machine, though.
>
> I'm most comfortable with Debian-based distros, but I'm open to using
> other distros if they do the job well, such as CentOS, OpenSUSE, and the
> like. I'm open to using a BSD (like FreeNAS) if it does the job and my
> hardware works for it.
>
> What's everyone's experiences? For my use case, what is the preference?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Matt
>
>
>
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OT: How to print a pdf document larger?

[joe]

Is there a way to print a pdf document that is
formatted to 6" x 9" to an 8.5" x 11" page?

And how can one do that for a multi-page book?



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Debian Stable vs Ubuntu LTS vs Others for a NAS

[Matthew Crews]

Hi all,

I'm sure this comes up every so often.

I'm in the process of repurposing an older desktop machine I have lying around 
and turning it into a NAS. I would like to do as little system administration 
as possible once it is set up. I would like relatively recent packages too, but 
I do NOT want to use a rolling release system.

I haven't decided on which distribution to use. My top three choices:

1. Debian Stable (presently 9.2)
2. Ubuntu LTS (presently 16.04, soon will be 18.04)
3. Others

Debian Stretch was recently released, and so the packages are newer than what's 
found in Ubuntu 16.04. However, Ubuntu 18.04 is just around the corner and will 
contain newer packages than Debian Stretch.

Anoption is also to install Ubuntu 17.10, upgrade to 18.04 in April, and keep 
it on the LTS path going forward, but I feel that could be a recipe for 
disaster. Not terribly comfortable with running non-LTS Ubuntu on this machine, 
though.

I'm most comfortable with Debian-based distros, but I'm open to using other 
distros if they do the job well, such as CentOS, OpenSUSE, and the like. I'm 
open to using a BSD (like FreeNAS) if it does the job and my hardware works for 
it.

What's everyone's experiences? For my use case, what is the preference?

Cheers,

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Re: Cox Gigablast

[Stephen Partington]

For the record, It requires an ONT that will be provided by cox, also they
will provide you a netgear AC1750 router. The one i got accepted DDWRT but
performed horribly, but that allowed me to install the non cox netgear
firmware that has been getting me the best speeds.

I think this is because the firewall is offloaded internally (at least in
mine) and DDWRT doesn't know how to talk to that yet so the CPU actually
has to work harder.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:24 PM,  wrote:

> I just signed up for gigablast also. I also just order the Motorola 3.1
> modem because my current one is 3.0.
>
> The bad thing is that it's not like the fiber gigablast. It's 1000Mb down
> and 35 up.
>
> Jason
>
> Regards,
>
> Jason
> --
> *From:* "Snyder, Alexander J" 
> *Sent:* Nov 20, 2017 12:50 PM
> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: Cox Gigablast
>
> Me too ... I checked a couple weeks ago and it wasn't available ... but I
> just checked now and GIGABLAST is finally available in my area!
>
> I'm so stoked ... based on the chatter, I'm sure to enjoy it.
>
> Oh, what's that? It requires a DOCSIS 3.1 modem?  Oh, you just spent
> nearly $300 on a fancy shiny new Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem?
>
> It like I find knives to stick in me and then slowly twist 
>
> Anyone want to buy a "like new" Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem?
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M981YYL
>
> Yes, I fully understand that this thread is about us all drooling over
> Gigablast, the one service this modem can't do ... got that, thank-you.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Alex.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:28 AM, kelly stephenson <
> stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes definitely, I signed up for gigablast this weekend which was inspired
>> by the chatter.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2017 10:11 AM, "Stephen Partington" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on
>>> 443 and 22/21 since I started.
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught
 me off guard when I went to open that port.  Cox residential blocks quite a
 few ports it turns out.

 On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" 
 wrote:

> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even
> https over http.
>
> Https is not blocked.
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson <
> stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around
>> this for your web site you plan on hosting?
>>
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>
>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get
>>> there from here Dept.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting
>>> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head
>>> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>>
 yep. :)
 I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to
 a specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site
 (which I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing 
 about
 my router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this 
 way, if
 anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
 subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will 
 definitely be
 locked out on that port, so no control there either).

 my only questiild, IT support Dept.
 on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an
 SDR on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a
 raspberry pie late generation.

 -eric
 from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
 On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

 I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it
 to unlimited.

 Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini
 runs like a champ.

 On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

> well,
> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote
> for monthly usage.
>
> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750
> Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 

Re: Cox Gigablast

[sesso]

I just signed up for gigablast also. I also just order the Motorola 3.1 modem 
because my current one is 3.0. 

The bad thing is that it's not like the fiber gigablast. It's 1000Mb down and 
35 up. 

Jason

Regards,

Jason

From: "Snyder, Alexander J" 
Sent: Nov 20, 2017 12:50 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast

Me too ... I checked a couple weeks ago and it wasn't available ... but I just 
checked now and GIGABLAST is finally available in my area!

I'm so stoked ... based on the chatter, I'm sure to enjoy it.

Oh, what's that? It requires a DOCSIS 3.1 modem?  Oh, you just spent nearly 
$300 on a fancy shiny new Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem?

It like I find knives to stick in me and then slowly twist 

Anyone want to buy a "like new" Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M981YYL

Yes, I fully understand that this thread is about us all drooling over 
Gigablast, the one service this modem can't do ... got that, thank-you.

--
Thanks,
Alex.



On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:28 AM, kelly stephenson  
wrote:
>
> Yes definitely, I signed up for gigablast this weekend which was inspired by 
> the chatter.
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2017 10:11 AM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:
>>
>> To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on 443 
>> and 22/21 since I started. 
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught me 
>>> off guard when I went to open that port.  Cox residential blocks quite a 
>>> few ports it turns out.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

 Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https 
 over http.

 Https is not blocked.

 On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson 
  wrote:
>
> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around 
> this for your web site you plan on hosting?
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>
>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology. 
>>
>> -eric
>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there 
>> from here Dept.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting 
>>> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head 
>>> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet. 
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

 yep. :)
 I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a 
 specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site 
 (which I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing 
 about my router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. 
 this way, if anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can 
 see is that subnet (and the administrative interface for the router 
 will definitely be locked out on that port, so no control there 
 either).

 my only questiild, IT support Dept.
 on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR 
 on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a 
 raspberry pie late generation.

 -eric
 from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
 On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to 
> unlimited.
>
> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini 
> runs like a champ. 
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>
>> well,
>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for 
>> monthly usage.
>>
>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 
>> Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per 
>> hour or about 64 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 
>> 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I know, no one leaves their TV on live 
>> stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>>
>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per 
>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical 
>> for a standard residential circuit.
>>
>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming 
>> some content or another, so it's quite possible that 

Re: Cox Gigablast

[Snyder, Alexander J]

Me too ... I checked a couple weeks ago and it wasn't available ... but I
just checked now and GIGABLAST is finally available in my area!

I'm so stoked ... based on the chatter, I'm sure to enjoy it.

Oh, what's that? It requires a DOCSIS 3.1 modem?  Oh, you just spent nearly
$300 on a fancy shiny new Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem?

It like I find knives to stick in me and then slowly twist 

Anyone want to buy a "like new" Netgear CM700 DOCSIS 3.0 modem?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M981YYL

Yes, I fully understand that this thread is about us all drooling over
Gigablast, the one service this modem can't do ... got that, thank-you.

--
Thanks,
Alex.



On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:28 AM, kelly stephenson  wrote:

> Yes definitely, I signed up for gigablast this weekend which was inspired
> by the chatter.
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2017 10:11 AM, "Stephen Partington" 
> wrote:
>
>> To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on
>> 443 and 22/21 since I started.
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught
>>> me off guard when I went to open that port.  Cox residential blocks quite a
>>> few ports it turns out.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https
 over http.

 Https is not blocked.

 On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson <
 stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around
> this for your web site you plan on hosting?
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>
>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>
>> -eric
>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
>> from here Dept.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting
>> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head
>> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>
>>> yep. :)
>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site 
>>> (which
>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if
>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely 
>>> be
>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either).
>>>
>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept.
>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR
>>> on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a 
>>> raspberry
>>> pie late generation.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
>>> unlimited.
>>>
>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini
>>> runs like a champ.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>>
 well,
 it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
 monthly usage.

 Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750
 Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour 
 or
 about 64 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. 
 now, so
 far as I know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.

 so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
 week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for 
 a
 standard residential circuit.

 now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming
 some content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB 
 for
 the last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry 
 about
 that 1 TB cap. :)

 -eric
 from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet
 streaming Dept.

 On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:

 Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
 exceed your monthly allowance in a 

Re: Cox Gigablast

[kelly stephenson]

Yes definitely, I signed up for gigablast this weekend which was inspired
by the chatter.


On Nov 20, 2017 10:11 AM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

> To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on
> 443 and 22/21 since I started.
>
> On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" 
> wrote:
>
>> Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught me
>> off guard when I went to open that port.  Cox residential blocks quite a
>> few ports it turns out.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https
>>> over http.
>>>
>>> Https is not blocked.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson <
>>> stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around
 this for your web site you plan on hosting?


 On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>
> -eric
> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
> from here Dept.
>
> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>
> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting
> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head
> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>
>> yep. :)
>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site 
>> (which
>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if
>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely 
>> be
>> locked out on that port, so no control there either).
>>
>> my only questiild, IT support Dept.
>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR
>> on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry
>> pie late generation.
>>
>> -eric
>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
>> unlimited.
>>
>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini
>> runs like a champ.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>
>>> well,
>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
>>> monthly usage.
>>>
>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750
>>> Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or
>>> about 64 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. 
>>> now, so
>>> far as I know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>>>
>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a
>>> standard residential circuit.
>>>
>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming
>>> some content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB 
>>> for
>>> the last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry 
>>> about
>>> that 1 TB cap. :)
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming
>>> Dept.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you
>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection.
>>>
>>> LAME!
>>>
>>> Brian Cluff
>>>
>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
>>>
>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
>>> tml?zip=85228
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:

> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
>
>
 What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could
 be a typo,
 but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data.
 Will find
 out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
 

Re: Cox Gigablast

[Stephen Partington]

To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on 443
and 22/21 since I started.

On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" 
wrote:

> Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught me
> off guard when I went to open that port.  Cox residential blocks quite a
> few ports it turns out.
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" 
> wrote:
>
>> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https
>> over http.
>>
>> Https is not blocked.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson <
>> stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around
>>> this for your web site you plan on hosting?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>>
 oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.

 -eric
 from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
 from here Dept.

 On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

 I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting
 company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head
 around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.

 On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

> yep. :)
> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which
> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if
> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be
> locked out on that port, so no control there either).
>
> my only questiild, IT support Dept.
> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR
> on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry
> pie late generation.
>
> -eric
> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>
> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
> unlimited.
>
> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini
> runs like a champ.
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>
>> well,
>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
>> monthly usage.
>>
>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750
>> Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or
>> about 64 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, 
>> so
>> far as I know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>>
>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a
>> standard residential circuit.
>>
>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming
>> some content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for
>> the last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry 
>> about
>> that 1 TB cap. :)
>>
>> -eric
>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming
>> Dept.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>
>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you
>> could find a service that would saturate your connection.
>>
>> LAME!
>>
>> Brian Cluff
>>
>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
>>
>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
>> tml?zip=85228
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
 Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.


>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could
>>> be a typo,
>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data.
>>> Will find
>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
>>> could drop
>>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically
>>> pay what
>>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
>>> something at
>>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, 

Re: Cox Gigablast

[kelly stephenson]

Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught me
off guard when I went to open that port.  Cox residential blocks quite a
few ports it turns out.

On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington"  wrote:

> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https
> over http.
>
> Https is not blocked.
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson <
> stephenson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around
>> this for your web site you plan on hosting?
>>
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>
>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
>>> from here Dept.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company
>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the
>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>>
 yep. :)
 I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
 specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which
 I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
 router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if
 anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
 subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be
 locked out on that port, so no control there either).

 my only questiild, IT support Dept.
 on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on
 there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie
 late generation.

 -eric
 from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
 On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

 I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
 unlimited.

 Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs
 like a champ.

 On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

> well,
> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
> monthly usage.
>
> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec.
> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64
> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as 
> I
> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>
> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a
> standard residential circuit.
>
> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some
> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the
> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about
> that 1 TB cap. :)
>
> -eric
> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming
> Dept.
>
> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>
> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you
> could find a service that would saturate your connection.
>
> LAME!
>
> Brian Cluff
>
> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>
> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
>
> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
> tml?zip=85228
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
>>>
>>>
>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be
>> a typo,
>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data.
>> Will find
>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
>> could drop
>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically
>> pay what
>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
>> something at
>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
>>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use
 way
 more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings.


 They have capped new gigablast subscribers 

Re: Cox Gigablast

[Stephen Partington]

So I can take everything that comes in at 80 and 443 and send them to 443,
then use letsencrypt for certs.

[image: Inline image 1]

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> That is very true, Google Domains has a DDNS functionality that you can
> use to update your IP with them. Very smooth.
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>
>> um. they block it on residential. I am on business and all ports are open
>> (or can be made that way from the admin page on my cox business account). I
>> also enjoy  a real honest fixed ip here. can't say that for residential.
>>
>> -eric
>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, the Mine's bigger than
>> yours Dept.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson wrote:
>>
>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around
>> this for your web site you plan on hosting?
>>
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>
>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
>>> from here Dept.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company
>>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the
>>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>>
 yep. :)
 I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
 specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which
 I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
 router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if
 anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
 subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be
 locked out on that port, so no control there either).

 my only questiild, IT support Dept.
 on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on
 there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie
 late generation.

 -eric
 from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
 On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

 I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
 unlimited.

 Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs
 like a champ.

 On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:

> well,
> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
> monthly usage.
>
> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec.
> if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64
> Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as 
> I
> know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>
> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a
> standard residential circuit.
>
> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some
> content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the
> last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about
> that 1 TB cap. :)
>
> -eric
> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming
> Dept.
>
> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>
> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you
> could find a service that would saturate your connection.
>
> LAME!
>
> Brian Cluff
>
> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>
> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
>
> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
> tml?zip=85228
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
>>>
>>>
>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be
>> a typo,
>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data.
>> Will find
>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
>> could drop
>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically
>> pay what
>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
>> something at
>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
>>
>>
>>

Re: Cox Gigablast

[Stephen Partington]

That is very true, Google Domains has a DDNS functionality that you can use
to update your IP with them. Very smooth.

On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

> um. they block it on residential. I am on business and all ports are open
> (or can be made that way from the admin page on my cox business account). I
> also enjoy  a real honest fixed ip here. can't say that for residential.
>
> -eric
> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, the Mine's bigger than
> yours Dept.
>
> On Nov 19, 2017, at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson wrote:
>
> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around this
> for your web site you plan on hosting?
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>
>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>
>> -eric
>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
>> from here Dept.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting company
>> won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head around the
>> Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>
>>> yep. :)
>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which
>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if
>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be
>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either).
>>>
>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept.
>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR on
>>> there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry pie
>>> late generation.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>
>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
>>> unlimited.
>>>
>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini runs
>>> like a champ.
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen"  wrote:
>>>
 well,
 it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
 monthly usage.

 Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750 Kb/sec.
 if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or about 64
 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so far as I
 know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.

 so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
 week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a
 standard residential circuit.

 now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming some
 content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for the
 last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about
 that 1 TB cap. :)

 -eric
 from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming
 Dept.

 On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:

 Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
 exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you
 could find a service that would saturate your connection.

 LAME!

 Brian Cluff

 On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

 Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.

 https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
 tml?zip=85228

 On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" 
 wrote:

> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>
>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
>>
>>
> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could be
> a typo,
> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data. Will
> find
> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
> could drop
> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically
> pay what
> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
> something at
> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
>
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>
>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use
>>> way
>>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings.
>>>
>>>
>>> They have capped new gigablast