Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward

2014-08-05 Thread Mike Bushroe
-- Forwarded message -- From: techli...@phpcoderusa.com To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Cc: Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 17:16:26 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ... Your CIO example was not lost on me. I get it. I'm

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread Stephen Partington
You can also try on xda. Questions I have are what is the source format? And what is the end goal. There are a number of eBook readers that seem to me to have much of this functionality already On Aug 3, 2014 5:26 PM, Kaoru Wilbur m.kaoru.wil...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Java, xml You can

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread Paul Mooring
I wanted to send this to the list, because I think you make some excellent points here. Also just for the record, I'm not necessarily saying I think do web apps for smart phones is better. I'm merely providing POV from someone working in the tech start-up space that that's what the industry is

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread David Schwartz
It always amazes me that these discussions inevitably devolve into arguments about the tools. When people discuss new features for cars, like switching to hybrid or electic technology, do they spend most of their time talking about battery chemistry or the electromagnetic properties of

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread techlists
...sorry... meant it to go to the list, thanks!! To clarify you are seeing a trend towards browser based mobile apps? On 2014-08-04 09:48, Paul Mooring wrote: I wanted to send this to the list, because I think you make some excellent points here.  Also just for the record, I'm not

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread techlists
On 2014-08-04 10:57, David Schwartz wrote: It always amazes me that these discussions inevitably devolve into arguments about the tools. When people discuss new features for cars, like switching to hybrid or electic technology, do they spend most of their time talking about battery chemistry or

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread David Schwartz
Delphi is just as easy to use as VB, if not easier. Have you looked at it lately? It’s just not considered “mainstream” any longer. People say, “Oh, is THAT still around?” Yup. Check it out. http://embarcadero.com They also have a tool they now call HTML5Builder or something along that

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread techlists
I've looked at it several times. Each time the price goes up. $4,150 is a little pricey for me. On 2014-08-04 13:35, David Schwartz wrote: Delphi is just as easy to use as VB, if not easier. Have you looked at it lately? It’s just not considered “mainstream” any longer. People say,

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread Paul Mooring
I think you're mostly right but missing the larger point here. Mobile platforms aren't like their much more open desktop brethren. In the world of mobile you more or less get the tool chain provider by the vendor (Java, Objective-C or Swift) for native apps. While I expect professional

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread techlists
In the 80's I began to develop using dBaseII, then dBaseIII... dBaseIII+, foxBase+, Clipper 87, Visual FoxPro. It was a great file server database system that was probably the best tool on the market for developing small company database applications. The problem is it was a niche skill

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread joe
Just to clarify ... David Schwartz and Paul Mooring last wrote, in part: David wrote: I’ve talked with Joe about his app. To his credit, he’s focused mainly on the app. But what he’s missed is that, IMHO, he’s over-spec'ed it to the point where you'd need so much custom code to implement

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread David Schwartz
I understand your point, Keith, but even though Android uses Java, and Java IS considered “mainstream”, that does not seem to be translating into making it easy(er) to find Android mobile developers, is it? The ones out there ARE getting top-dollar, as well as iOS developers. C++ is also a

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread David Schwartz
Back in the 80’s, M$ was just another compiler vendor, one of several. And they weren’t even considered the best. It has been estimated that their software development tools division alone would rank as a Fortune 100 business entity. But they actually receive very little direct revenues

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-04 Thread techlists
Your CIO example was not lost on me. I get it. I'm focusing on the market and how it effects my ability to make a living as a freelance developer. For me it is about demand/compensation, is the projected life cycle long enough to make it worth while making the necessary investment of time

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-03 Thread joe
Thanks for your insights, Paul. You last wrote, in part: ... Currently android/java developers are in great demand, where I live the average salary is around $110,000/yr or roughly $2100/week ... [but they need] a weeks time on any project just trying to understand what needs to happen ...

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-03 Thread techlists
Hi Paul, One would think that Andriod programming is going to be with us for year... decade at least. However that begs the question, what do you (or anyone else) think the long term demand will be? Increasing or decreasing? Is there any barriers to entry like a nasty learning curve?

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-03 Thread Kaoru Wilbur
Yeah, but Paul with oDesk, it's a 1099 situation:) So, depending on the consultant, could be more! On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Paul Mooring p...@getchef.com wrote: Not to discourage you from trying to make this happen, but a bit of perspective might help. Currently android/java

Re: OT: Wanted: Android App Developer $??? Reward ...

2014-08-03 Thread Paul Mooring
This is a probably a longer and more involved conversation than you think. There's a few primary factors in supply and demand for app developers: 1. Native vs HTML There's a huge difference in the available supply of developers and companies currently equipped to make an html5 site that plays