Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread Tony E - Jaraeth
Call me crazy, call me geeky... I kind of wish I could see Gene Roddenberry's idea of society come to fruition. No more bounderies of money barter. Instead, a society that provides for one another, and people have jobs that they like, and benefit the rest of society. A place where everyone has

Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread Scott
While trekkies certain hold a lot of ground in our society, I really wish there would be more movies about Arthur C. Clarke. They are already working on Rama, but where are 2061 and 3001? You talk about a utopian society, pick up 3001 sometime and see just how crazy and far humanity could go as

Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread Vaughn Treude
Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 22:42 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: On 12/30/07, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cannot ignore the need for some level of province. Without fences, there are no crops. Really? Most of the farms I know of don't have fences. They seem to pull in

Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread Vaughn Treude
Tony E - Jaraeth wrote: Call me crazy, call me geeky... I kind of wish I could see Gene Roddenberry's idea of society come to fruition. No more bounderies of money barter. Instead, a society that provides for one another, and people have jobs that they like, and benefit the rest of society.

OT: The list of correctness

2007-12-31 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
It is great listening to this list. We get to hear speculation, tangents, semantics, and the occasional injection of fiction stated as fact. It must be a holiday and nothing is going on. Happy New Year! Gilbert --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -

Re: OT: The list of correctness

2007-12-31 Thread Alan Dayley
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: It is great listening to this list. We get to hear speculation, tangents, semantics, and the occasional injection of fiction stated as fact. It must be a holiday and nothing is going on. Happy New Year! Gilbert I'm trying to decide if you are joking,

Re: OT: The list of correctness

2007-12-31 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 10:48 -0700, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: I am just bored. Stiring the pot. ;-) feel free to jump in...inanity can be participatory. rock on Craig --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -

Re: OT: The list of correctness

2007-12-31 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Alan, I usually just lurk on this list. The passion that some members on the list use when discussing topics can be very high. My sense of humor can be offensive but I hope it adds levity to the list. I added the Happy New Year to take some of the seriousness away so that members would see

Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On 12/30/07, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 23:31 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: On 12/30/07, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 22:42 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: On 12/30/07, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cannot ignore the

Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread keith smith
I read about 6 posts and when I came up for air there was 20 more! Vaughn Treude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony E - Jaraeth wrote: Call me crazy, call me geeky... I kind of wish I could see Gene Roddenberry's idea of society come to fruition. No more bounderies of money barter. Instead, a

Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On 12/31/07, Vaughn Treude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't resist joining the fray! On the one hand, I've personally never produced anything of value that wasn't intellectual property. On the other hand, a society that actually tried to _enforce_ the copyright laws as they stand would be

Re: OT: The list of correctness

2007-12-31 Thread Alan Dayley
Oh, no! Don't open that bucket-o-worms! ;^) Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: We can always talk about the proper way to reply to a post. Top or Bottom? Gilbert feel free to jump in...inanity can be participatory. rock on Craig We can always talk about the proper way to reply to a

It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread gm5729
Canada is partly there with the government provided health care. LOL thats why their doctors and health care pros in droves come to the usa with work visas to make more money ... leaving very unreasonable waiting periods for consumers because of lack of services available

Re: OT: The list of correctness

2007-12-31 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 12:45:59PM -0700, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: We can always talk about the proper way to reply to a post. Top or Bottom? Gilbert feel free to jump in...inanity can be participatory. rock on Craig We can always talk about the proper way to reply to

Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread Vaughn Treude
Joshua Zeidner wrote: On 12/31/07, Vaughn Treude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't resist joining the fray! On the one hand, I've personally never produced anything of value that wasn't intellectual property. On the other hand, a society that actually tried to _enforce_ the copyright laws

Re: Parsing Firefox history.dat file?

2007-12-31 Thread Josef Lowder
. On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:30:01 -0700, Alan Dayley wrote I want to parse or convert to text the Firefox history.dat file. There is apparently a Windows application called Dork that does it. But I'm not on Windows. :^) All I want to do is extract a list of the URLs. I'm wading through

Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Dec 31, 2007 1:28 PM, Vaughn Treude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Zeidner wrote: On 12/31/07, Vaughn Treude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't resist joining the fray! On the one hand, I've personally never produced anything of value that wasn't intellectual property. On the

Re: OT: The list of correctness

2007-12-31 Thread Joshua Zeidner
also be careful not to inflame Alan's Godwinian sensibilities. hint: don't mention Hitler. happy Gregorian New Year. -jmz On Dec 31, 2007 1:03 PM, Alan Dayley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, no! Don't open that bucket-o-worms! ;^) Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: We can always talk

Re: OT: The list of correctness

2007-12-31 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 12:45 -0700, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: We can always talk about the proper way to reply to a post. Top or Bottom? Gilbert feel free to jump in...inanity can be participatory. rock on Craig We can always talk about the proper way to reply to a post.

Re: Parsing Firefox history.dat file?

2007-12-31 Thread Eric Shubes
Alan Dayley wrote: I want to parse or convert to text the Firefox history.dat file. There is apparently a Windows application called Dork that does it. But I'm not on Windows. :^) All I want to do is extract a list of the URLs. I'm wading through Google search results but it is probably

Re: OT: The list of correctness

2007-12-31 Thread Alex LeDonne
On Dec 31, 2007 2:45 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can always talk about the proper way to reply to a post. Top Inline. or Bottom? Gilbert --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To

Re: Parsing Firefox history.dat file?

2007-12-31 Thread Alan Dayley
Eric Shubes wrote: Nice little exercise. I'm sure there are a myriad of ways to do this. This is what I came up with (from directory containing history.dat): $ tr -d '\\\n' history.dat | tr ')' '\n' | grep =http:// | cut -d = -f 2- history.urls It basically does this: 1) strips out all

Windows problem (besides being windows)

2007-12-31 Thread eculbert
I have hard drives setup for linux...in either ext2 or ext3 format. I was trying to 'wipe one' via installing w98 and get 'operating system not found' as soon as it accesses the cdrom...at least right after the bios boots. Works fb with linux live cd's or when no cd and boots into linux distro.

Re: Windows problem (besides being windows)

2007-12-31 Thread Eric Shubes
eculbert wrote: I have hard drives setup for linux...in either ext2 or ext3 format. I was trying to 'wipe one' via installing w98 and get 'operating system not found' as soon as it accesses the cdrom...at least right after the bios boots. Works fb with linux live cd's or when no cd and

starter bibliography on Economics of Information Goods

2007-12-31 Thread Joshua Zeidner
if anyone is lookig for more legitimate reference on the economics of information goods as discussed in the thread: It's now illegal to turn on your computer started by Craig White; http://www.utdallas.edu/~liebowit/knowledge_goods/rl6311.html from Stan Liebowitz at UT Dallas. -jmz

Re: Windows problem (besides being windows)

2007-12-31 Thread eculbert
--- Eric \Shubes\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eculbert wrote: I have hard drives setup for linux...in either ext2 or ext3 format. I was trying to 'wipe one' via installing w98 and get 'operating system not found' as soon as it accesses the cdrom...at least right after the bios

Re: bootdisks

2007-12-31 Thread Michael Sammartano
No, that won't work, the CDROM drivers are on the boot disk. Win98 was not designed to be bootable from the cd, although I do have a few that were made bootable. You can down load the disk contents online, just google it. Also windows will 'NOT' format over ext2 or ext3. You must use either a

Re: It's now illegal to turn on your computer

2007-12-31 Thread Vaughn Treude
keith smith wrote: Can you imagine what the law would look like and how hard it would be if we had stuff like - Burglary is stealing stuff from a yard after 10pm and before 6am or from a residential structure while it is occupied. If the residential structure is not occupied and it is

Re: Cinelerra question

2007-12-31 Thread Erich Newell
I read about similar problems with the stability of Cinelerra in the KDEnlive article I mentionedSorry to hear they haven't worked them out yet. I don't know what the process is for importing in KDEnlive, but for Kino you simply open the files...since they are not DV format, it will ask if you

Re: bootdisks

2007-12-31 Thread Matt Graham
From: eculbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Sammartano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win98 was not designed to be bootable from the cd, although I do have a few that were made bootable. Also windows will 'NOT' format over ext2 The only 'Doze98 CD (first edition) I ever had was bootable. So it's

Stripped Down Diskless Linux Firewall

2007-12-31 Thread unixprgrmr01
Hey folks... What is the name of the stripped down Linux OS that you can boot from a cd or USB thumb drive and use as a diskless firewall box? Thanks for your help! Lynn More new features than ever. Check out

Re: your mail

2007-12-31 Thread unixprgrmr01
Hans, Thanks for the reply... sorry I forgot to put a subject in the e-mail These aren't the OS's I'm looking for... I recall a few years ago hearing about a linux installation and kernel that was specifically designed to be a firewall... I have searched google and havn't come up with

Re: your mail

2007-12-31 Thread unixprgrmr01
Hans, Thanks for the reply... sorry I forgot to put a subject in the e-mail These aren't the OS's I'm looking for... I recall a few years ago hearing about a linux installation and kernel that was specifically designed to be a firewall... I have searched google and havn't come up with

Re: your mail

2007-12-31 Thread Donn
There are several that I have heard of. The Linux Router Projecthttp://pigtail.net/LRP/index.htmlis small and can be run from a floppy, flash drive, or external Hard drive. I have heard of Smoothwall http://www.smoothwall.org/get/ being run from a Flash Drive, and this

Re: your mail

2007-12-31 Thread unixprgrmr01
Hey, Thanks for your e-mail I'll ck those out Best Regards, Lynn P. Tilby Ph: 480 632-8635 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Donn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:35 pm Subject:

Re: ****Stripped Down Diskless Linux Firewall

2007-12-31 Thread unixprgrmr01
Craig, Thanks for the info... Best Regards, Lynn P. Tilby Ph: 480 632-8635 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 9:28 pm Subject: Re: