Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Alan Dayley
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Steven stevenss...@cox.net wrote: Ah! Good to hear someone having success. Did you do the initial setup from Windows? Is that necessary? I think the main concern I had after the initial googling for reviews was that when I grabbed a copy of the manual off the

RE: router opinions wanted

2009-04-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
If you are going to be under siege, you can run a Linux firewall box with 3 interfaces directly from your cable box, we are doing a presentation/lab at HackFest the 2nd Saturday (next weekend) at UAT.edu. It will give you vpn, pptp, whatever you want? And you can populate it with 1000G

Re: Fwd: UG News: Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-03 Thread Andrew Tuna Harris
Ah, wish I could go this year. I hear it's gonna be a good one. :/ Excerpts from Alan Dayley (PHX Linux UG)'s message of Thu Apr 02 22:04:26 -0700 2009: Great discount for OSCON! Alan -- Forwarded message -- From: Marsee Henon mar...@oreilly.com Date: Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Steven
Craig White wrote: My argument against the netbooks for this purpose is that they aren't built for continuous on functionality and I suspect that they won't last. Actually the Wind and Eee I'm thinking of are the micro-desktop versions rather than the netbooks. MSI Wind PC

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Jones
You could always get one of these plug computers and attach a large external USB drive to it. It only draws 5w of power and runs ubuntu so you could easily setup your own samba and nfs shares, as well as run some kind of media server applications. I ordered the $99 dev kit at

RE: UG News: Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
They figured there are enough people in Silicone Valley so it's not going to look recession (depression) deserted? I must listen to too much CNN? Obnosis | (503)754-4452 PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM Subject: Re: Fwd: UG News: Discount for O'Reilly

Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-03 Thread James Lee Bell
der.hans wrote: [1] The photo radar flashes can cause a white out effect on the driver when they go off. This is a huge problem for motorcyclists as it blinds them for a second and worse blinds the car drivers near them[3]. I have even had my cabin white out due to a photo radar flash at dusk

Re: router opinions wanted

2009-04-03 Thread Stephen
I has some weirdness disableinh the wireless in a dd-wrt install If you can id vote to use a cheap computer and a smoothwall or IPcop install On 4/2/09, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: Total noob wrt networks. I'm about to dive into setting up a home LAN and could use some

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Stephen
Honestly get an old box and add some dekces and look into openfiler It will outstrip the nas abilities of the ready nult ones and be fully compatible And much more flexible On 4/3/09, Charles Jones charles.jo...@ciscolearning.org wrote: You could always get one of these plug computers and

RE: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Bob Elzer
FYI if you like, you can have the full drive use ext3. Using ext2ifs will let windows access your ext3/ext2 drive http://www.fs-driver.org/ -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Alan

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Stephen
This works well but behaves weirdly with ext3 floppies On 4/3/09, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote: FYI if you like, you can have the full drive use ext3. Using ext2ifs will let windows access your ext3/ext2 drive http://www.fs-driver.org/ -Original Message- From:

RE: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Bob Elzer
What's a floppy ??? LOL Do they still make those ? -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:19 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: Cheap

Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-03 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
Can't help but wonder what that might do to landing pilots too. Probably nothing... Not to discredit your statement in any way, but to clarify the aviation detail: First, the light impulse will be too small, too far and too out of the way to be a concern, the landing pilot will be focus on

Recreating Directory Trees?

2009-04-03 Thread Andrew Tuna Harris
Hello there! Hellther. I am about to create a Ruby script to sync my music directory with my MP3 player. Before I start, I would like a nice test environment, as my MP3 player uses a particular directory tree. Is there a nice easy way to copy a directory tree without copying over all its files?

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Stephen
Sadly it is still the only way to get some drivers And XP/2k3 can only take drivers from floppy On 4/3/09, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote: What's a floppy ??? LOL Do they still make those ? -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us

Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Jones
Don't talk bad about the cops, they will come and take all your computers away ;-) http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/phoenix-police-raid-home-of-blogger-whose-writing-is-highly-critical-of-them/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -

Re: Recreating Directory Trees?

2009-04-03 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
export NEWPATH=/somewhere;cd /my-tree;find . -type d|cut -b3-|(while read DIR;do mkdir -p $NEWPATH/$DIR);done Use at your own risk... :) ET Andrew Tuna Harris writes: Hello there! Hellther. I am about to create a Ruby script to sync my music directory with my MP3 player. Before

Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-03 Thread Vaughn Treude
Bryan O'Neal wrote: Cool, where can I get a copy of this report? -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Josef Lowder Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:25 AM To: Main PLUG discussion

Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-03 Thread Vaughn Treude
Can't resist getting in on this one! :=) der.hans wrote: Am 02. Apr, 2009 schwätzte Josef Lowder so: On 4/1/09, Bryan O'Neal bon...@cornerstonehome.com wrote: I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow light of adequate length to safely stop after noticing the light

Re: Web Server Issues Centos

2009-04-03 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
thank you - Original Message - From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Web Server Issues Centos I had al sorts of issues getting a centos web server to play nice (still

OT Threads

2009-04-03 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
These threads are ok, but when they dominate a list it turns members away. This last OT thread is a great example of a thread out of control. Not only was there an outrageous number of OT posts that I had to wade through, but at one point, one list member posted 7 separate messages on the same

Re: OT Threads

2009-04-03 Thread James Finstrom
Gmail and thunderbird both thread my messages so I usualy don't notice On 4/3/09, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. mailing-li...@phoenixinternet.net wrote: These threads are ok, but when they dominate a list it turns members away. This last OT thread is a great example of a thread out of control.

Re: router opinions wanted

2009-04-03 Thread Bishmer Sekaran
Robert Holtzman wrote: Is it possible to disable a wireless router's transmitter and use it with cable? I thought I might like to try it as hard wired but retain the capability of going wireless later. I've run a lot of searches on this question and haven't seen anything You should be able

Re: OT Threads

2009-04-03 Thread Charles Jones
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: These threads are ok, but when they dominate a list it turns members away. This last OT thread is a great example of a thread out of control. Not only was there an outrageous number of OT posts that I had to wade through, but at one point, one list member

Re: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-03 Thread stu w
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:43 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:24 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: On 4/1/09, Bryan O'Neal bon...@cornerstonehome.com wrote: I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow light of adequate length to safely stop after noticing

OT: Science Friday at ASU today

2009-04-03 Thread der.hans
moin moin, Science Friday is broadcasting from ASU today as part of the Origins Symposium. They will have a live video stream in a few minutes. http://www.sciencefriday.com/asuoriginsstream.html Lots of cool stuff coming up Monday as well. http://www.origins.asu.edu/news/2009/2009_news01.php

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread stu w
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 06:49 -0700, Stephen wrote: Honestly get an old box and add some dekces and look into openfiler It will outstrip the nas abilities of the ready nult ones and be fully compatible And much more flexible This is pretty much what I plan to do soon. Geeks.com has an Intel

RE: router opinions wanted

2009-04-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
Yes, all of the LinkSys, Belkin and Netgears allow you to disable the Wireless 802.1 beacon and just use wired; OpenWRT and other such itsy linux allow taking down the interface. If you are running your wireless beacon from a card in your bastion router (which is actually a Security ISO built

RE: Recreating Directory Trees?

2009-04-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
SuperTuna Man asked: Can I just copy that structure and leave all those files behind? Solutions: tar: tar cvf - `find /dir1 -name '*.dbf'` dir1.tar Whatever your find is, put it between the backticks ` `. Go to /newdir and untar the dir1.tar cptree #!/bin/sh if [ $# = 2 ] then (cd

RE: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Bryan O'Neal
And XP/2k3 can only take drivers from floppy What? Last time I had to use a floppy for drivers was 1999! I managed hundreds of XP desktops and dozens of Win2003 server and never used a floppy for a driver. One of my 2003 servers did not even have a CD/DVD drive. -Original Message- From:

RE: OT: Speed Cams

2009-04-03 Thread Bryan O'Neal
After reading the report it did not seems as if they conducted the survey in a professional scientific manor. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Vaughn Treude Sent: Friday, April 03,

RE: OT Threads

2009-04-03 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Same here. I also filter out topical subjects I have little to no interest in. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of James Finstrom Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:03 AM To: Main PLUG

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Stephen
Raid drivers are either injected onto install media or added via floppy This has not changed til vista/server 2008 On 4/3/09, Bryan O'Neal bon...@cornerstonehome.com wrote: And XP/2k3 can only take drivers from floppy What? Last time I had to use a floppy for drivers was 1999! I managed

Re: OT Threads

2009-04-03 Thread Alan Dayley
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Bryan O'Neal bon...@cornerstonehome.com wrote: Same here. I also filter out topical subjects I have little to no interest in. The problem with filters is they are not newbie friendly. One of the goals of this group (I think) is to spread Linux use into non-geek

RE: OT Threads

2009-04-03 Thread Tony E - Jaraeth
Might I also interject and point out that some people like myself, receive email on their mobile phone prior to getting home and downloading it. Thus filters are not used, or accessible without using imap and server side formatting. ...And before it's brought up: 1) not everyone has a host

RE: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Bryan O'Neal
I used dells raids that came with your choice of an os generic install cd or network boot image. -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:00 PM To:

RE: OT Threads

2009-04-03 Thread Bryan O'Neal
I am as bad of an offender as most and worse then some. I enjoy many of the OT conversations, but will try to limit my responses. As for host providing imap/serverside sorting, I use Gmail, its free, easy, and you only have to sell a very small portion of your sole ;) -Original Message-

Re: Cheap NAS or MSI Wind/Eee Box?

2009-04-03 Thread Stephen
Dell added drivers to the install image, Which is incredibly handy And linux has had this ability since the 90's On 4/3/09, Bryan O'Neal bon...@cornerstonehome.com wrote: I used dells raids that came with your choice of an os generic install cd or network boot image. -Original