der.hans wrote:
[...]
BTW, I wasn't chastising Bob. I've known many people make that reference
that don't realize it might not actually be what Gore implied. Some even
heard playback of Gore making the statement, but were pre-disposed to see
a particular meaning due to lead-in. I just wanted
When I click the link for the Hackfest address on the PLUG homepage, Google
Maps points to a residential location at 1224 W Northern Ave. 1224 _E_
Northern Ave appears to be the correct address, though a Google web search
suggests this is a University of San Francisco location. I cannot find any
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:31 -0700, keith smith wrote:
I have not. No need to I do not beleive him.
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
From: Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com
Subject: RE: OT: ICANN and NRO
To: Main PLUG discussion list
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 22:13 -0700, der.hans wrote:
Incorrect quotes and flame wars don't help FOSS.
Hey, how bout them Penguins!!![0]
:)
ciao,
der.hans
[0] Hockey is almost on topic for while :)
the 7th game was one of the most exciting games ever.
no flame wars
Craig
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At 09:00 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 19:54 -0700, der.hans
wrote: Am 23. Jun, 2009 schwätzte Bob Elzer
so: moin moin,We didn't create
it. Al Gore did. Apprently he didn't make
that claim.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
I think that anyone who
At 09:14 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:06 -0700, keith smith wrote:
I would say Al Gore is Mr. Mis-Information. All he does is try
to tell us there is Global Warming while there is no real proof.
just out of curiosity...have you watched his movie?
Craig
And
At 09:55 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:54 PM, der.hanspl...@lufthans.com wrote:
Am 23. Jun, 2009 schwätzte Bob Elzer so:
moin moin,
We didn't create it. Al Gore did.
Apprently he didn't make that claim.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
EXCUSE ME??
I think my point is clear. If you call Al Gore 'Mr. Mis-Information' and
suggest that there is no real proof and yet, you have not seen his movie
you aren't a bit interested in the proof that he offers.
Question: Have you watched Fox News? Listened to Rush Limbaugh?
It is a two-way street,
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 05:31 -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
I think my point is clear. If you call Al Gore 'Mr. Mis-Information'
and
suggest that there is no real proof and yet, you have not seen his
movie
you aren't a bit interested in the proof that he offers.
Question: Have you watched
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 05:23 -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
At 09:14 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:06 -0700, keith smith wrote:
I would say Al Gore is Mr. Mis-Information. All he does is try to
tell us there is Global Warming while there is no real proof.
Thanks I will fix it.
On 6/24/09, David Munson david.mun...@gmail.com wrote:
When I click the link for the Hackfest address on the PLUG homepage, Google
Maps points to a residential location at 1224 W Northern Ave. 1224 _E_
Northern Ave appears to be the correct address, though a Google web
Thanks David!
Our schedule is as follows:
FreeIPA from Steven Kaplan in July
Puppet Theatre in August (full 3 hours of puppetry)
Does your subject fit here, or would you like to develop your idea for
September or present it at another PLUG event?
On 6/24/09, David Munson david.mun...@gmail.com
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 05:20 -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
At 09:00 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 19:54 -0700, der.hans wrote: Am 23. Jun,
2009 schwätzte Bob Elzer so: moin moin,We didn't create
it. Al Gore did. Apprently he didn't make that claim.
On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:31 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
Question: Have you watched Fox News? Listened to Rush Limbaugh?
It's interesting to google for 'average age of fox news viewer'. I've
checked out both enough to know that their principal product is
reassurance to their aging audience that
On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Craig White wrote:
The polar ice caps are melting at a record pace. Where is it you
believe
ice is increasing?
Maybe at the poles in the next few decades.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20020927213400data_trunc_sys.shtml
--
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On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 08:15 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote:
On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Craig White wrote:
The polar ice caps are melting at a record pace. Where is it you
believe
ice is increasing?
Maybe at the poles in the next few decades.
well Ubuntu has the first publicly released install that is
specifically for netbooks, including a fully tuned UI for netbook
screen real estate.
and visiting the xandros websites makes me want to scrub my brain...
their marketspeak and corporateese makes microsoft look like a friend
to foss.
On
On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Craig White wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 08:15 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote:
On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Craig White wrote:
The polar ice caps are melting at a record pace. Where is it you
believe
ice is increasing?
Maybe at the poles in the next few decades.
If anyone is really interested in or would like to ponder some
meaningful information regarding global warming, please see
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
Of course, people believe what they choose to believe.
keith smith wrote:
I have not. No need to I do not beleive him.
Bob Elzer wrote:
We didn't create it. Al Gore did.
lol
:o Look what you did, Bob! *shakes head and walks away ashamed8
You should know better than to mention anything even remotely political.
Ryan
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On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
If anyone is really interested in or would like to ponder some
meaningful information regarding global warming, please see
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
Of course, people believe what they choose to believe.
Or you could
I have been using Clonezilla for a small while now (and comparing it
to acronis and symantec products). and decided its a win.
Anyone have any experience in useing this in a network feel like
gieing me suggestions? I am trying to decide if i just set up an NFS
server and boot from a CD or set up
Google would have the backend to support it.. and a business model
that would do well with it...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Chris Gehlkercanyon...@mac.com wrote:
On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
If anyone is really interested in or would like to ponder some
meaningful
I have never had a good experience with Xandros or it's derivatives.
Well, actually they work fine until the first update. Then things
start breaking.
I love http://geteasypeasy.com/ on my netbook. It's based on Ubuntu.
Alan
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Stephencryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:
I (me) have created a monster. Sorry.
Everybody missed the little lol after it.
As for Al Gore and his FUD on global warming.
It's amazing to me how in 100 or so years, Scientists have figured out
exactly how the climate works.
I remember the Nuclear Winter like conditions that happened
ok, what is the difference between this and the ubuntu netbook remix?
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Alan Dayleyala...@consultpros.com wrote:
I have never had a good experience with Xandros or it's derivatives.
Well, actually they work fine until the first update. Then things
start
Chris Gehlker wrote:
On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
If anyone is really interested in or would like to ponder some
meaningful information regarding global warming, please see
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
Of course, people believe what they choose to
On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
I did. The fact that the site is sponsored by Conoco-Phillips would
indicate that it deserves extra scrutiny, to be sure. So be sure to
give
the content extra scrutiny. I think it'd be foolish though to
disregard
it entirely because of
http://clonezilla.org/
Yes, the time to clone is seriously impressive. A server (even just
using a USB TerraByte drive) would be a great addition to any
endeavor. Cloned servers in server farms at build are seriously
worthwhile. While a clone is not always what is needed for data
retention, to
I just love how easy it is to manage Desktop Installs/images... makes
a 2 day sequence of downloading updates and reinstalling the mess of
software so much easier.
and i like the idea for servers, but havent quite figured out how to
implement it on a backup cycle yet...
as most of my servers are
-- Forwarded message --
From: Amin Gangji
snip
This software will turn your computer to a portal for those who are trying
to get around the Iranian govt censors. This is how people are posting the
videos on youtube, bbc, etc. This is also how people are getting their
daily news.
At 07:24 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 05:23 -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
At 09:14 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:06 -0700, keith smith wrote:
I would say Al Gore is Mr. Mis-Information. All he does is try to
tell us there is Global Warming while
Best answered by the people at Easy Peasy:
http://forums.geteasypeasy.com/viewtopic.php?f=12t=1761p=6871#p6871
Alan
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:
ok, what is the difference between this and the ubuntu netbook remix?
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:49 AM,
2009/6/23 der.hans pl...@lufthans.com
moin moin,
The first paragraph in the quote was a comment on Ted's blog. The second
is Ted's response. Read the blog post at the URL given below.
###
# # 2 tytso Says:
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:15 am
@1: I’d thought that the reason to avoid ext3 on
This is a test message June 24 at 11:40 am
Please disregard.
I sent two messages to plug a little while ago
that seem to have vanished.
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On Jun 24, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
At 07:24 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 05:23 -0700, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
At 09:14 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:06 -0700, keith smith wrote:
I would say Al Gore is Mr. Mis-Information. All he does
At 07:59 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 05:20 -0700, Lyle Tuttle
wrote: At 09:00 PM 6/23/2009, you wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 19:54 -0700, der.hans
wrote: Am 23. Jun, 2009 schwätzte Bob
Elzer so: moin moin,We didn't
create it. Al Gore did. Apprently he
At 08:10 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote:
On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:31 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
Question: Have you watched Fox News? Listened to Rush Limbaugh?
It's interesting to google for 'average age of fox news viewer'.
May I ask what that has to do with the content or accuracy? Or are
you a
At 10:22 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote:
I (me) have created a monster. Sorry.
Everybody missed the little lol after it.
As for Al Gore and his FUD on global warming.
It's amazing to me how in 100 or so years, Scientists have figured out
exactly how the climate works.
I remember the Nuclear
Hi Craig,
You make a good point. I'm going on all I know of him over the years. Maybe
one of these days I'll view his movie.
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
From: Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com
Subject: RE: OT:
June 24 at 11:57 am test from gmail to plug - disregard
I have sent several messages from two other web mail
at runbox and blue host that seem to have vanished.
So this is a test from gmail web mail.
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If you give up they win.
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
From: Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com
Subject: RE: OT: ICANN and NRO
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Wednesday, June
The interesting this is that some will say we are losing ice while others say
we are gaining ice. Still others say this is a normal fluctuation.
When I look at who stands to gain if global warming is accepted and carbon tax
and cap and trade are put into law it makes me wonder if there is
I think developing it for September would probably work best, as I'd like to
be able to answer questions that might come up related to the presentation.
It's essentially a how-to demonstration of pen testing, and it may work
really well as an Installfest or ABLEconf topic. The angle I'm going for
Can you guys practice some common mailing list courtesy and take this
discussion to private e-mail since this is way off topic and has gone
on for days now?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote:
At 07:59 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote:
On Wed,
I'm all for profit if it brings a value. I see no value in cap and trade and
the carbon tax.
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
From: Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com
Subject: RE: OT: ICANN and NRO
To: Main PLUG
On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:25 PM, keith smith wrote:
If you give up they win.
The future of the free world depends on winning an argument on a
mailing list!
sincerely,
they
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is it ironic that my corporate firewall blocks this?
Eric
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Amin Gangji
snip
This software will turn your computer to a portal for those who are trying
to get around the
Well said!
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: OT: ICANN and NRO
To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 10:22 AM
I
On 6/24/09, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote:
is it ironic that my corporate firewall blocks this?
Eric
No, all proxies are blocked. I block them via my Cisco IDS also.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Lisa Kachold
lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:
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I'd rather see a Kevin Smith movie. LOL
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I'll keep that in mind if I decide to make a movie. What would I call it?
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: OT: ICANN and NRO
To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'
How about Jay and Silent Bob fix global warming aka Ice Age 4
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Do you need a proxy to get to it. LOL
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Subject: Re: Link to provide proxy portal to
Is there an open source way to get instant messaging onto a webpage?
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On Wed 24 June 2009 12:52:45 pm Bob Elzer wrote:
How about OT: Jay and Silent Bob fix global warming aka Ice Age 4
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On Wed 24 June 2009 1:48:53 pm mike havens wrote:
Is there an open source way to get instant messaging onto a webpage?
CGI:IRC+bitlbee
cgiirc.org bitlbee.org
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thats perfect, and i think i might go with an easypeasy install over
the 9.04, mainly because i like vlc and cant use it with 9.04 yet
without installing from scratch, and well i like having managed
packages...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Alan Dayleyala...@consultpros.com wrote:
Best
How about this http://www.php121.com/
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Subject: instant messanger
Is there an
there is also a plan b if you have friends that you trust in these
countries... it can be quite secure but it has a limit to the number
of people who can share at a time.
http://www.hp2133guide.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=212sid=88486b8a0a68f7c0ab5af116d92fdaa8
but at the same time it can help
On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:48 PM, mike havens wrote:
Is there an open source way to get instant messaging onto a webpage?
It's hard to understand exactly what you are asking for. Can you point
us to an example?
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those who do not
No,
It IS a proxy!
On 6/24/09, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you need a proxy to get to it. LOL
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Sheesh!
9/10's of success in life is asking the right source:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Is+there+an+open+source+way+to+get+instant+messaging+onto+a+webpageie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a
On 6/24/09, mike havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there an open
A new project called RailsMentors has started up in the past few
months, devoted to connecting new programmers with those more
experienced in Rails. Thought I'd make you all aware in case anyone
out there is having Rails trouble.
http://www.railsmentors.org/
regards,
alex
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No,
It IS a proxy!
On 6/24/09, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you need a proxy to get to it. LOL
If you're behind corporate firewall you'd need a proxy to download it ;)
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Yes I know, but his work is blocking the site about the proxy.
He needs a proxy to view the site about the proxy.
Is that like pointing a video camera at the monitor.
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Just wait until you see what you are going to need to run it, behind
that Corporate Firewall?
On 6/24/09, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I know, but his work is blocking the site about the proxy.
He needs a proxy to view the site about the proxy.
Is that like pointing a video
On Wed 24 June 2009 3:37:24 pm Bob Elzer wrote:
Is that like pointing a video camera at the monitor.
Now I have something to do when i get home :D
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--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:
I prefer lmgtfy, although it is slightly more work on your part. :)
http://tinyurl.com/llhn5f
--Jason
From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
Subject: Re: instant messanger
To: Main PLUG discussion list
this is where setting up hamachi might be an amusing experiment,
assuming your even allowed to install applications and pseudo
drivers...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Lisa Kacholdlisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:
Just wait until you see what you are going to need to run it, behind
that
well, I was thinking more about like you see a symbol under a profile... you
click it, and an instant message window appears
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Jason Holtzapple jasonholtzap...@yahoo.com
wrote:
--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:
I prefer lmgtfy,
but who's instant message window is it ?
yours so everyone can see all your instant messages ?
Or any anonymous window so they can send you an instant message ?
Or a window where they type their login and password into your system to log
them into an online IM service.
_
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I didn't know about that site, my friends are gonna hate me now. lol
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You guys just want to mess with another oppressive country by
installing techno devices to fight censorship!
On 6/24/09, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:
this is where setting up hamachi might be an amusing experiment,
assuming your even allowed to install applications and pseudo
drivers...
well, a website I'm part of (plentyoffish.com) had IM but the 3rd party
qquit doing it I'M TRYING TO FIND A REPLACEment. Look at the site and
you'll understand.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
but who's instant message window is it ?
yours so
I'm not sure that that site is running but
Take a look at these maybe they will help
http://freshmeat.net/projects/shoutchat
http://freshmeat.net/projects/dim-instantmessenger
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Here is another one
http://www.hotscripts.com/listing/e-post-on-site-messaging-system/
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