Re: First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread fouldragon
I run Windows 7; I got a copy at one of those seminars they sponsor for developers. Annoyingly, they only provided 32-bit. Real nice for an 8Gb system. Honestly, I'd be thrilled to have a shop which promotes non-iPod media players. Never owned an iPod, never will. The Zune HD does look like

Re: First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread fouldragon
I run Windows 7; I got a copy at one of those seminars they sponsor for developers. Annoyingly, they only provided 32-bit. Real nice for an 8Gb system. Honestly, I'd be thrilled to have a shop which promotes non-iPod media players. Never owned an iPod, never will. The Zune HD does look like

Re: Linux laptop for a pre-schooler

2009-10-23 Thread James Crawford
I know I'm late to comment but I just installed qimo on an old Dell box that we were not using any longer. My 2 yo grandson loves Tux-Paint and we will be setting the box up at his house this weekend on next. Along with instructions to his parents on how to usw the system, I hope to break them f

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Lisa Kachold
netstat -anp |grep 22 (get anything?) ps -e |grep ssh /etc/init.d/sshd start or /etc/init.d/ssh start nmap localhost (watch for port 22) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 17:12 -0500, Josef Lowder wrote: > > I last wrote (in part): > > > > This scp w

Re: OT: Do not appreciate the implication that I am "pathetic."

2009-10-23 Thread Lisa Kachold
Josef, I agreed that this somehow was taken personally, when Craig only meant to make a point about the state of modern linux capability for users such as you. Some problems resolve better with a rebuild with the right OS/distro? Craig is far from the sort to indulge in "name calling", as a huma

Re: OT: Do not appreciate the implication that I am "pathetic."

2009-10-23 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 19:06 -0500, Josef Lowder wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > I can't quite figure out if this is an indictment on all Linux in > > general or the specific distribution that he uses but this is pathetic. > > > > If the distribution you choose to use breaks because you update, > >

OT: Do not appreciate the implication that I am "pathetic."

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
Craig White wrote: > I can't quite figure out if this is an indictment on all Linux in > general or the specific distribution that he uses but this is pathetic. > > If the distribution you choose to use breaks because you update, > you need to find a different one...period, end of discussion. Crai

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 17:12 -0500, Josef Lowder wrote: > I last wrote (in part): > > > This scp worked a year ago when I tried it and I've made > > > no changes in this system since. > > Then Matt Graham wrote: > > No changes in a year? What? Don't you keep the system updated? > > That's correct.

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
I last wrote (in part): > > This scp worked a year ago when I tried it and I've made > > no changes in this system since. Then Matt Graham wrote: > No changes in a year? What? Don't you keep the system updated? That's correct. I have several computers, on some of which I do regular updates, but o

Re: ot - social security number being used fraudulantly

2009-10-23 Thread keith smith
A friend in Mesa was altered that there might be an ID theft going on so he called the Mesa Police and they were very diligent. Keith Smith --- On Fri, 10/23/09, mike havens wrote: > From: mike havens > Subject: Re: ot - social security number being used fraudulantly

Re: ot - social security number being used fraudulantly

2009-10-23 Thread mike havens
I will On 10/23/09, keith smith wrote: > > Have you made a police report? > > > Keith Smith > > > --- On Thu, 10/22/09, mike havens wrote: > > > From: mike havens > > Subject: ot - social security number being used fraudulantly > > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > >

Re: ot - social security number being used fraudulantly

2009-10-23 Thread keith smith
Have you made a police report? Keith Smith --- On Thu, 10/22/09, mike havens wrote: > From: mike havens > Subject: ot - social security number being used fraudulantly > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 1:23 PM > I know nowhere else

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Matt Graham
From: Josef Lowder > Matt Graham wrote: >> First thing I'd check is the iptables rulesets. > How does one "check the iptables rulesets"? iptables -L . And then looking at the output for anything dumb. >> "pgrep sshd" returns a PID, right? If it doesn't, there's your >> problem right there. > Ho

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
Lisa wrote: 0) Verify default route is in place: netstat -rn (UG should be gateway) 1) Ensure ssh is on on the target machine. 2) Verify ports are open: nmap $target (to ensure iptables are not limiting ssh access by source/destination or mac address, port knocking) 3) Verify MTU issues if you ar

RE: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Bob Elzer
try telnet 192.168.1.68 22 if you get some prompts then the port is working, if not it's probably being blocked. check your firewall settings. _ From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Lisa Kachold Sen

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
Matt Graham wrote: > First thing I'd check is the iptables rulesets. An overly paranoid > firewall could cause this to happen. Second thing I'd check is the > /etc/ssh/sshd_config , to make sure that sshd is listening on that > interface (or all interfaces) and port 22. "pgrep sshd" returns a > PID

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Matt Graham wrote: > From: Alex Dean > > On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Josef Lowder wrote: > >> $ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy > >> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.68 port 22: Connection timed out > >> /sbin/ifconfig shows 192.168.1.68 as the

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
Alex Dean wrote: > > $ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy > This will give you more info about what's going on: > scp -v filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy So I tried that and got this error message: scp -v filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filename Executing: progra

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Matt Graham
From: Alex Dean > On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Josef Lowder wrote: >> $ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy >> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.68 port 22: Connection timed out >> /sbin/ifconfig shows 192.168.1.68 as the inet address. > This will give you more info about what's going

Re: laptop battery capacity

2009-10-23 Thread Stephen
Tys yes it is On 10/23/09, mike havens wrote: > that's a problem in the summer! things are always hot then. > > General rule of thumb - if your battery is hot during charging, its probably >> not being charged correctly for long term use. >> > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- Sent from my mobile device

PLUG Linux Security Labs (HackFest Series) Moving John C. Lincoln Hospital for the Winter On

2009-10-23 Thread Lisa Kachold
We will be moving the PLUG Linux Security Lab Presentations (HackFest Series) monthly meetings to the John C. Lincoln Hospital Cowden Center. John C. Lincoln does not hold weekend hours, and most of us have better things to do on Saturday mornings, therefore, we have chosen the new day/time as the

Re: scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Alex Dean
On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Josef Lowder wrote: $ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy This will give you more info about what's going on... scp -v filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.68 port 22: Connection timed out lost connection

scp times out

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
$ scp filename j...@192.168.1.68:/home/joe/filecopy ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.68 port 22: Connection timed out lost connection /sbin/ifconfig shows 192.168.1.68 as the inet address. What do I need to do to get scp to work? --- PLUG-discuss mail

RE: How to set up partitions for a quad boot with two HDs?

2009-10-23 Thread Bob Elzer
Are you trying to resize the partitions while they are still mounted ? You must unmount them first. You might try downloading and burning parted magic, then none of your partitions will be mounted and you should be able to change them all the way you want. -Original Message- From: plu

Re: First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Surprisingly MSFT has recovered some of its value from its 08 losses. http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chdet=125606880&chddm=196453&chls=IntervalBasedLine&q=NASDAQ:MSFT&ntsp=0 Im still bearish on MSFT as you might guess... but interesting

Re: First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread JD Austin
Do they take returns... "Hi... I'd like to return my copy of Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition... I found a better operating system for free" :) On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, James Mcphee wrote: > I'm really curious what their business model is. Unlike Mac, they aren't > the hardware

Re: First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, James Mcphee wrote: >> I'm really curious what their business model is.  Unlike Mac, they aren't >> the hardware vendor, so there would be some serious competition with the >> Dell and Gateway stores for sup

Re: First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, James Mcphee wrote: > I'm really curious what their business model is.  Unlike Mac, they aren't > the hardware vendor, so there would be some serious competition with the > Dell and Gateway stores for support work. yes, they're fumbling at this point for sure...

Re: First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread James Mcphee
I'm really curious what their business model is. Unlike Mac, they aren't the hardware vendor, so there would be some serious competition with the Dell and Gateway stores for support work. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:38 AM, mike havens wrote: > A protest? They're just trying to make money! > > > O

Re: First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread Joshua Zeidner
> A protest? They're just trying to make money! obviously I was being sarcastic... but I do wonder why they chose Scottsdale. Perhaps it is the strong anti-Microsoft community we have here in Phoenix. I think M$ is making yet another mistake by taking on Apple. M$ has absolutely failed at eve

Re: First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread mike havens
A protest? They're just trying to make money! On 10/23/09, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2010120131_first_microsoft_store_opens_in_scottsdale.html > > anyone check it out? should we organize a protest? ;) > > -jmz > --

First Microsoft Store in Scottsdale

2009-10-23 Thread Joshua Zeidner
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2010120131_first_microsoft_store_opens_in_scottsdale.html anyone check it out? should we organize a protest? ;) -jmz --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscr

Re: laptop battery capacity

2009-10-23 Thread mike havens
that's a problem in the summer! things are always hot then. General rule of thumb - if your battery is hot during charging, its probably > not being charged correctly for long term use. > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss

Re: laptop battery capacity

2009-10-23 Thread Eric Cope
The charge controller in laptop batteries control the charging, not the external power supply. No batteries have memory problems. Improperly charging any battery can reduce its longevity (which is why the battery charge controller is inside the battery for laptops - to ensure proper charging). Gen

How to set up partitions for a quad boot with two HDs?

2009-10-23 Thread Josef Lowder
I've tried to use both 'GParted' and 'QTparted' but can't figure out how to get the partitions set up. Here's a link to a description with screen-caps of what I've tried so far: http://www.vsiq.com/linux/partitions What is the best way to solve this?

ABLEconf: need more video recorders

2009-10-23 Thread der.hans
moin moin, we need some more A/V equipment for doing recordings. We also need people to run some of the equipment we do have. Please email i...@ableconf.com if you can help with the recordings. We can definitely use help from people who really know what they're doing :). ciao, der.hans -- #