There are actually two issues with Windows that make it even more of a PITA
than most people realize...
First, there is more than one Windows core. MS doesn't go out of their way to
make this well known. If hardware changes in a significant way, such that a
different core should be selected,
I want to learn to program. What is a good first language to learn? Could
someone give me a place to d/l this language that also has instructional
material?
Another question I have is: my linux box is not connected to the web; is all
I have to do is d/l the *nix version, save it to my flash, and
Python.
python.org
Python for Software Design: How to Think Like a Computer Scientist
http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/
Go!
Alan
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to learn to program. What is a good first language to learn? Could
someone
I agree with Alan on that one.
Python enforces a lot of good habits. Many Universities use it now
to teach programming. It's free and its a marketable skill. Perl
OTOH is the worst language to learn first.
-jmz
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com wrote:
Seems like we have a lot of opinions here. Here is a paper from ACM
on the use of Python in for teaching programming.
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=114017
-jmz
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Austin William Wright
diamondma...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Alan Dayley wrote:
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com wrote:
Seems like we have a lot of opinions here. Here is a paper from ACM
on the use of Python in for teaching programming.
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=114017
sorry wrong link:
This is not wholly accurate
There are two main kernels in windows single core and multi core
With XP sp3 and later all windows installas are good to 4 cores
On 2/20/10, Kevin Fries kfri...@gmail.com wrote:
There are actually two issues with Windows that make it even more of a PITA
than most
Wow, now I know why it is so hard to hire people that are competent! Python is
fun, not right, but fun... Thats your argument? If you want to know why we
refuse to hire Python programmers at our company, I can give you real facts on
why you should not use that language as a place to learn...
I'm all ears, buddy. Tell us why.
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Kevin Fries kfri...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, now I know why it is so hard to hire people that are competent!
Python is fun, not right, but fun... Thats your argument? If you want to
know why we refuse to hire Python programmers
Let's not devolve into a favorite language war. There are situations where
Python is a great language choice, and situations where it's terrible.
Every language choice comes down to what you want to accomplish.
Some languages are good for rapid development of websites (Ruby, PHP, etc...).
Every language has strengths and weaknesses. Some one wanted the
strengths and so designed the language for that reason. Python is
appropriate for many things and not appropriate for many others. So
is any other language.
Mike wanted a suggestion for learning a language. Python is an easy
website development seems like the only thing I would want to do so Ruby it
is! Unfortunately, it isn't on my Ubuntuu install. When I tried to start it
it told me to apt-get it. No internet connection.
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Joseph Sinclair
plug-discuss...@stcaz.netwrote:
Let's not
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
website development seems like the only thing I would want to do so Ruby it
is!
and that is the typical story with Ruby developers... ;)
-jmz
Unfortunately, it isn't on my Ubuntuu install. When I tried to start
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 19:27 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
website development seems like the only thing I would want to do so
Ruby it is! Unfortunately, it isn't on my Ubuntuu install. When I
tried to start it it told me to apt-get it. No internet connection.
true but any programming
I'm old school and would suggest learning plain old C. Then you can branch out
to other languages.
Keith Smith
--- On Sat, 2/20/10, Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com
Subject: Re:
To: Main PLUG discussion list
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 19:12 -0700, Joseph Sinclair wrote:
Let's not devolve into a favorite language war. There are situations where
Python is a great language choice, and situations where it's terrible.
Every language choice comes down to what you want to accomplish.
Some languages are
someone coming from a C background typically understands a lot more
about run-time performance than otherwise... -jmz
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm old school and would suggest learning plain old C. Then you can branch
out to other languages.
On 02/20/2010 08:01 PM, keith smith wrote:
I'm old school and would suggest learning plain old C. Then you can branch
out to other languages.
Keith Smith
I second that. C is simple and versatile, and spawned off a whole family
of other language such as C++
I have Firefox 3.5.6 running on two identical Thinkpad computers.
It has been working fine on both for several months, but today, it
just quit working on one of them with the message quoted below. Both
are wirelessly connected on the same network. No changes were made on
either one. I have
On 2/20/10 8:13 PM, Craig White wrote:
and then of course there is the motivation to learn a language for
gainful employment which in some circles would be none of the above.
I think Kevin was looking at it from his particular employment angle.
Personally, I am particularly amused by
This is not a Firefox issue. Its either a DNS or connectivity issue.
Kevin
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From: Josef Lowder
Sent: 02/20/2010 9:00:52 PM
Subject: Firefox just quit working. Why?
I have Firefox 3.5.6 running on two identical Thinkpad computers.
It has
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Vaughn Treude vltre...@deru.com wrote:
On 02/20/2010 08:01 PM, keith smith wrote:
I'm old school and would suggest learning plain old C. Then you can branch
out to other languages.
Keith Smith
I second that. C is simple and
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 21:08 -0700, Technomage wrote:
On 2/20/10 9:00 PM, Josef Lowder wrote:
I have Firefox 3.5.6 running on two identical Thinkpad computers.
It has been working fine on both for several months, but today, it
just quit working on one of them with the message quoted below.
I'd say the best language to learn first is the one that makes the project
useful. What is the project you want to attack?
I enjoyed learning C/C++ first, but OOP evangelists would disagree. :)
Eric
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Joshua Zeidner jjzeid...@gmail.com wrote:
one of the best
One vote for Fortran!
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Vaughn Treude vltre...@deru.com wrote:
On 02/20/2010 08:01 PM, keith smith wrote:
I'm old school and would suggest learning plain old C. Then you can
branch
Perl isn't the first language I would recommended for a newbie but I can't
think of a more versatile language. There are perl modules for just about
anything.
On Feb 20, 2010 10:14 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd say the best language to learn first is the one that makes the
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