Re: OT: My email address change.

2010-07-27 Thread Lisa Kachold
Let's get it registered (along with PLUG non-profit status, so all volunteering and donations to the User's Group can be properly supported by companies (and individuals) wanting to write off tax charitable items), and provide PLUG listed professionals to provide services? Just create another

use web page as screen saver?

2010-07-27 Thread Alex Dean
As I mentioned in the recent low-cost hardware thread, I'm planning a 'framed monitor' project to display photos in my living room. I think I have the hardware side nearly figured out, so now I'm pondering software. Getting software to display a series of images seems like no problem. I

Re: use web page as screen saver?

2010-07-27 Thread Matt Graham
From: Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org Getting software to display a series of images seems like no problem. I find lots of options there. But I'd also like to sometimes display a web page, so (for instance) I can see the weather report from 7-8 am while I'm getting breakfast. I think I

Re: use web page as screen saver?

2010-07-27 Thread joe
I'm planning a 'framed monitor' project to display photos in my living room. Great idea! Please post the solution when you have it all worked out. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe,

Re: use web page as screen saver?

2010-07-27 Thread Stephen
this is exactly what i was looking to suggest. and of course you can use a combination of frames for multiple content. If you get the web-server/client part well done enough there is a good market for this solution (trust me, I have seen solutions go upwards of 10k) On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:51

Re: use web page as screen saver?

2010-07-27 Thread Alex Dean
On Jul 27, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Matt Graham wrote: From: Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org Getting software to display a series of images seems like no problem. I find lots of options there. But I'd also like to sometimes display a web page, so (for instance) I can see the weather report from 7-8 am

Re: OT: My email address change.

2010-07-27 Thread Stephen
This is not a bad idea really. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: Let's get it registered (along with PLUG non-profit status, so all volunteering and donations to the User's Group can be properly supported by companies (and individuals) wanting to

Re: use web page as screen saver?

2010-07-27 Thread Stephen
well i know if you mess with things enough you can get a basic X up and running and have it do nothing but Firefox so the screensaver is irrelevant. and for hardware, depending on how much tinkering you want to do with an enclosure, old laptops might be an idea of where to go. you can probably

Re: OT: My email address change.

2010-07-27 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Alan - Your move. How long do you have before it expires? Before then you should consider giving it to one of the many parties (Plug would probably be the most democratic) or renewing it for your self. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: This is not a bad idea

Re: Migrating from MySQL 5.0.41 to 5.1.44

2010-07-27 Thread Alex Dean
On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:46 AM, Eric Cope wrote: Hello all, I am upgrading my MySQL test server from 5.0.41 to 5.1.44. Is there any reason I can't just dump all databases in phpmyadmin including mysql and information_schema and import them into the new database? Copying the other

Re: Migrating from MySQL 5.0.41 to 5.1.44

2010-07-27 Thread Bryan O'Neal
It is possible to do this but is is not as easy as you may think it will be. You will have to apply the insert query's from the dump one at a time by hand and see what fails and make corrections. Even then I would just back it all up and run mysql-upgrade. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Alex

Re: OT: My email address change.

2010-07-27 Thread keith smith
I think adding a section to the Plug website would be more effective from and SEO perspective. Keith Smith If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and

The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread joe
How much is computer hardware *really* worth? This week, India announced a new $35 tablet PC How low do you think computer prices will eventually go? And how long do you think new PC hardware will sustain $500 and higher price points (due to the built-in M$ tax of $100 to $500 per unit)? Is

Very sorry for the multiple post

2010-07-27 Thread joe
Very very sorry for the multiple post. I don't know how that happened. I only sent it once. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:

Re: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Yha, I will believe a $35 tablet with a 1GHz proc and 2GB of ram when it is in my hand. Until then it is so much vaperwere. That said - I would buy one :) On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:25 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: How much is computer hardware *really* worth? This week, India announced a

Re: Very sorry for the multiple post

2010-07-27 Thread Bryan O'Neal
I have not seen any :) But then again I use Google - if two emails are exactly the same they hide the second one. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:27 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Very very sorry for the multiple post. I don't know how that happened. I only sent it once.

Re: Saw this off Slashdot - 200 Linux machine

2010-07-27 Thread Eric Shubert
j...@actionline.com wrote: Eric wrote (in part): That's odd. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2357348,00.asp BL according to this article is that performance is nearly identical, Joe replied (in part): The cited article's information is not a proper comparison. The article is comparing a

Re: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread Wayne Davis
Sounds great... BUT: Until linux becomes MUCH more plug play, the average consumer will balk. I am no fan of M$, make no mistake. However, I have, of late been contemplating moving to Win7. Actually BOUGHT the Win7PRO and have installed it on another boot drive.It is EASY, It is MUCH

RE: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread Stephen Partington
For me MS is going to be part of the world for a long time, even if the company self destructs next year. And a Large portion of software will work only on MS, if I want to use any of this software I will have a compatible platform. I would love to have the core API's used open sourced and see

Re: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread Daniel Stasinski
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Wayne Davis Until linux becomes MUCH more plug play, the average consumer will balk. I used to often have the whole not ready for primetime and for the power user discussion with an old co-worker and the conclusion we both came to is that Linux will never be

Re: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread Michael Havens
$35? Is that wholesale or retail? On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Daniel Stasinski dan...@avenues.orgwrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Wayne Davis Until linux becomes MUCH more plug play, the average consumer will balk. I used to often have the whole not ready for primetime and

RE: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stephen Partington wrote: For me MS is going to be part of the world for a long time, even if the company self destructs next year. And a Large portion of software will work only on MS, if I want to use any of this software I will have a compatible platform. I am truly

RRe: How to report Internet Abuse

2010-07-27 Thread gm5729
You can't stop a server from hitting you. It's impossible. You can stop it from getting into your network. Three quickies are a proper IPTables A new invention called hosts.allow/hosts.deny. You can block whole countries this way. I have about a dozen that I do. Making sure your first line of

Re: RRe: How to report Internet Abuse

2010-07-27 Thread Michael Havens
that was really a good post! On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:45 PM, gm5729 gm5...@gmail.com wrote: You can't stop a server from hitting you. It's impossible. You can stop it from getting into your network. Three quickies are a proper IPTables A new invention called hosts.allow/hosts.deny. You

Re: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread Matt Graham
From: Daniel Stasinski dan...@avenues.org On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Wayne Davis Until linux becomes MUCH more plug play, the average consumer will balk. the conclusion we both came to is that Linux will never be accepted until it *IS* Windows. Pretty much. Most people tend to

Re: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread joe
Is Linux ready for 90% of users? Not sure. I'd say it's definitely there for web/mail/office tasks, and probably movies ... Games... not so much. There are a ton of gamers out there who MUST HAVE StarCrack II and as long as stuff like that is on Windows and not Linux, there will be a huge

Re: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread Alex Dean
On Jul 27, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Matt Graham wrote: From: Daniel Stasinski dan...@avenues.org On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Wayne Davis Until linux becomes MUCH more plug play, the average consumer will balk. the conclusion we both came to is that Linux will never be accepted until it *IS*

Running Tar from a Shell Script.

2010-07-27 Thread keith smith
Hi, If I run tar -czf /backups/my-backup-$(date +%Y%m%d).tgz /work/dev/ from the command line, less the quotes, it runs just fine with the exception of the one message that says tar: Removing leading `/' from member names, which I am not sure exactly what that means. If I create a shell

Re: Running Tar from a Shell Script.

2010-07-27 Thread Alex Dean
On Jul 27, 2010, at 3:54 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, If I run tar -czf /backups/my-backup-$(date +%Y%m%d).tgz /work/ dev/ from the command line, less the quotes, it runs just fine with the exception of the one message that says tar: Removing leading `/' from member names, which I am

Re: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread Eric Shubert
j...@actionline.com wrote: Is Linux ready for 90% of users? Not sure. I'd say it's definitely there for web/mail/office tasks, and probably movies ... Games... not so much. There are a ton of gamers out there who MUST HAVE StarCrack II and as long as stuff like that is on Windows and not Linux,

Re: Running Tar from a Shell Script.

2010-07-27 Thread Jason Holtzapple
On 07/27/2010 01:54 PM, keith smith wrote: If I create a shell script with two lines, as follows: #!/bin/bash /bin/tar -czf /backups/my-backup-$(date +%Y%m%d).tgz /work/dev/ I get the following output: : command not founde 2: /bin/tar: Removing leading `/' from member names

Re: Running Tar from a Shell Script.

2010-07-27 Thread Dale Farnsworth
If I run tar -czf /backups/my-backup-$(date +%Y%m%d).tgz /work/dev/ from the command line, less the quotes, it runs just fine with the exception of the one message that says tar: Removing leading `/' from member names, which I am not sure exactly what that means. If filenames are stored in a

Re: Running Tar from a Shell Script.

2010-07-27 Thread keith smith
That's on the horizon.  Today I need to get things tar'ed. Keith Smith --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org wrote: From: Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org Subject: Re: Running Tar from a Shell Script. To: Main PLUG discussion list

google chrome and cookies

2010-07-27 Thread Michael Havens
OS= WINXP I run chrome as my browser is there a way to arrange allowed/blocked cookies by order of when it was blocked/allowed? If not there should be because I blocked a cookie and now things aren't working properly. How do I get in touch with the developers to give them this suggestion? --

Re: Running Tar from a Shell Script.

2010-07-27 Thread Mark Stoecker
tar: Removing leading `/' from member names is because you are not running the tar command from within the directory you are archiving. Use the -C switch to specify the directory you want to run tar from. tar -czf /backups/my-backup-$(date +%Y%m%d).tgz -C /work/dev/ * That will switch to the

Re: Running Tar from a Shell Script.

2010-07-27 Thread keith smith
Okay it was a DOS carriage return.  I did a dos2unix filename.sh and all is well!! Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Mark Stoecker webmas...@desertwebdesigns.com wrote: From: Mark Stoecker webmas...@desertwebdesigns.com Subject: Re: Running Tar from a Shell

Re: The inevitable eventual cost of computers.

2010-07-27 Thread Bryan O'Neal
I personally disagree for something like this. Most people will never try to install anything on this tablet other then what is in the repository. Look at the iPad. In addition the vast majority of people will never, ever, touch the hardware, including USB components. Most people treat computers

DefCon 18

2010-07-27 Thread Lisa Kachold
Too bad I can't take off for Friday, I would enroll in this: https://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=11627 Capture the Packet Contest Encrypt or be Sorry! -- IvedaXpress.com Systems Engineer Office: (480)307-8712 ATT: (503)754-4452 Faith is, at one and the same time, absolutely necessary

Fwd: [HSL] Announcing Phoenix Google Technology Users Group (GTUG)

2010-07-27 Thread Alan Dayley
Forwarding a cross post. Looks interesting if it interests you. ;-) Tried to post to plug-devel but it doesn't like my email address. Shrug. Alan -- Forwarded message -- From: Will Bradley bradley.w...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:10 PM Subject: [HSL] Announcing

Re: Wednesday West Side Mtg Question

2010-07-27 Thread Benjamin Francom
I called and e-mailed the Outreach department at DeVry, with no response yet regarding the room #. Hopefully I'll find out something tomorrow. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Benjamin Francom bfran...@gmail.comwrote: I will be doing a presentation on installing Linux on a Soekris net5501