Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-08-06 Thread Trent Shipley
Dazed_75 wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Trent Shipley > wrote: > > Dazed_75 wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Trent Shipley > > >> wr

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-08-06 Thread Dazed_75
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: > Dazed_75 wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Trent Shipley > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Memtest86 passed. > > > > So far people have also suggested the cause as hardware > > incompatibility

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-08-05 Thread Trent Shipley
Dazed_75 wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Trent Shipley > wrote: > > > > Memtest86 passed. > > So far people have also suggested the cause as hardware > incompatibility, hard drive issues, BIOS (Dell's site does recommend > updating the

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-08-02 Thread Ryan Rix
Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> sorry for the doublemail, kmail is giving me trouble, so I'm using >> gmail's web interface, which is giving me more trouble. :( >> > > that doesn't do your case much good. :} -jmz But, see, /I/ broke it :D --- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Look, I'm about to buy me a do

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-08-01 Thread Joshua Zeidner
> sorry for the doublemail, kmail is giving me trouble, so I'm using > gmail's web interface, which is giving me more trouble. :( > that doesn't do your case much good. :} -jmz > -- > Thanks and best regards, > Ryan Rix > OnBoard-NG > --- > PLUG

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-08-01 Thread Trent Shipley
On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:53 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > On Fri 31 July 2009 8:07:17 pm Trent Shipley wrote: >> (Dell's site does recommend >> updating the BIOS for my motherboard but their program won't run from >> a CD and I couldn't figure out how to make a bootable DOS flash >> drive) > > WHY doesn't

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-08-01 Thread Stephen
well if you want to create a dos floppy i have a usb floppy drive i can likely borrow and se about brining to the next west side plug meeting and a windows box to make it. however i do not know how potable your system is. i cant remember if it is a laptop or not. be a neat project to see come ali

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-08-01 Thread Dazed_75
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: > > > Memtest86 passed. > > So far people have also suggested the cause as hardware > incompatibility, hard drive issues, BIOS (Dell's site does recommend > updating the BIOS for my motherboard but their program won't run from > a CD and I cou

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Ryan Rix
On Fri 31 July 2009 8:07:17 pm Trent Shipley wrote: > (Dell's site does recommend > updating the BIOS for my motherboard but their program won't run from > a CD and I couldn't figure out how to make a bootable DOS flash > drive) WHY doesn't it run from CD? What type of tool -is- it? I've ma

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Trent Shipley
screen comes up.) Is >> there a shop in town that works with Linux? I live near ASU West. >> >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Lisa Kachold >> >> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 20

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Ryan Rix
On 7/31/09, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: >> And the developer zeal of KDE and the future sustainability of its >> tech is much higher. KDE is a desktop designed with the future in >> mind, whereas GNOME is designed to introduce new users to GNU/Linux >>

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Ryan Rix
Besides the DE itself you simply cannot compare KUbuntu and Ubuntu -- they are identical. GNOME may be more 'stable' but when you think about it, products like RHEl are stable too. That doesn't necessarily make it better. The developer zeal of KDE and the future sustainability of its tech is much h

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > And the developer zeal of KDE and the future sustainability of its > tech is much higher.  KDE is a desktop designed with the future in > mind, whereas GNOME is designed to introduce new users to GNU/Linux > and provide a simple, deathly easy to us

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Ryan Rix
And the developer zeal of KDE and the future sustainability of its tech is much higher. KDE is a desktop designed with the future in mind, whereas GNOME is designed to introduce new users to GNU/Linux and provide a simple, deathly easy to use desktop. KDE has akonadi, nepomuk, strigi, plasma

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > On 7/31/09, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >>   I switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu... Ubuntu is more solid. >> >>   -jmz > > I don't get that at all, from the > internal-x-won't-start-kernel-problem-ohnoes standpoint this thread is > about, given that kubun

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Ryan Rix
On 7/31/09, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > I switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu... Ubuntu is more solid. > > -jmz I don't get that at all, from the internal-x-won't-start-kernel-problem-ohnoes standpoint this thread is about, given that kubuntu == ubuntu + apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. And for that

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Stephen
> > Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel > > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Zeidner > > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:43:58 > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: BAD kubuntu > > >  I switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu... Ubuntu is more s

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread tshipley
43:58 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: BAD kubuntu I switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu... Ubuntu is more solid. -jmz On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: > I've been running Kubuntu on my desktop for a while now.  Since the upgrade > to 9.04 it has wo

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Joshua Zeidner
I switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu... Ubuntu is more solid. -jmz On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: > I've been running Kubuntu on my desktop for a while now.  Since the upgrade > to 9.04 it has worked really well.  Today the update program said the kernel > had to be updat

RE: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Bob Elzer
, July 31, 2009 9:42 AM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: BAD kubuntu > > Try unplugging input peripherals and even internal cards > until something clicks. I've had bad video cards give the > same response, bad memory, even a quirky western digital > ext

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Michael Butash
hrough. (The initial [GRUB?] splash screen comes up.) Is there a shop in > > town that works with Linux? I live near ASU West. > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Lisa Kachold > >

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Alan Dayley
> > Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel > > -Original Message- > From: Lisa Kachold > > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:17:06 > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: BAD kubuntu > > > Boot to live CD/DVD > > # tail /var/log/messages > #

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread Ryan Rix
> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel > > -Original Message- > From: Lisa Kachold > > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:17:06 > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: BAD kubuntu > > > Boot to live CD/DVD > > # tail /var/log/messages > # dmes

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-31 Thread tshipley
Kachold Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:17:06 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: BAD kubuntu Boot to live CD/DVD # tail /var/log/messages # dmesg |more highlight/copy/drop to email for us? On 7/30/09, Ryan Rix wrote: > On Thu 30 July 2009 12:17:40 am Michael Butash wrote: >> but I

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-30 Thread Lisa Kachold
Boot to live CD/DVD # tail /var/log/messages # dmesg |more highlight/copy/drop to email for us? On 7/30/09, Ryan Rix wrote: > On Thu 30 July 2009 12:17:40 am Michael Butash wrote: >> but I've heard not >> much has changed. > > You've heard wrong. KDE4.3 will be just as mature as 3.5 and with a

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-30 Thread Ryan Rix
On Thu 30 July 2009 12:17:40 am Michael Butash wrote: > but I've heard not > much has changed. You've heard wrong. KDE4.3 will be just as mature as 3.5 and with a hell of a lot more features and future. -- --- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Problem solving under Linux has never been the circus that i

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-30 Thread Michael Butash
Honestly I'd had nothing but issues using Kubuntu using it until around 7.04. When I upgraded to 7.10, i went to ubuntu and never looked back. KDE 4 was a kludge back then, not sure how it is now, but I've heard not much has changed. Despite that, I can't imagine it not booting after an update -

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-29 Thread Dazed_75
To be honest, it sounds like you have a more basic problem (disk space, disk failing, bad memory, hardware conflicts, 3rd party software conflicts, etc). Switching distros may or may not help. Even if it does, it could re-occur later. Tons of other folks had the kernel update as well and I've no

Re: BAD kubuntu

2009-07-29 Thread Ryan Rix
On Wed 29 July 2009 9:17:59 pm Trent Shipley wrote: > I've been running Kubuntu on my desktop for a while now. Since the upgrade > to 9.04 it has worked really well. Today the update program said the > kernel had to be updated for security reasons, so I updated. Now the @#$% > computer won't fin

BAD kubuntu

2009-07-29 Thread Trent Shipley
I've been running Kubuntu on my desktop for a while now. Since the upgrade to 9.04 it has worked really well. Today the update program said the kernel had to be updated for security reasons, so I updated. Now the @#$% computer won't finish booting. This has happened before -- frequently. Un