I'll second that. :) Take away my motivation/reward to do more than I need
to and guess what... I'll stop. Health care is expensive mostly because
of governmental regulations/bureaucracy. If I created a medical device
that would magically cure cancer guess what my odds would be of getting it
in
: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 3:21 PM
I call that statement bull crap.
Just because someone created a petition does not mean that all/most of the
residents want to give up.
Personally for a joke I could create
untry?
Keith Smith
--- On Thu, 11/15/12, Michael Havens wrote:
From: Michael Havens
Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 3:09 PM
I think that people that don't like the way the country is going shoul
eep the 50 states together.
>
> Very different.
>
>
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Thu, 11/15/12, Robert Holtzman * wrote:
>
>
> From: Robert Holtzman
> Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Date: Thursday, November 1
I think that people that don't like the way the country is going should
move to texas and then only teas seceed. There already is a provision in
their founding documents that they could separate into 3 states.
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Eric Cope wrote:
> Something to conside
Something to consider is that while there are groups of people in each
state that want to secede, not EVERYONE in the state wants to secede. The
question is what constitutes critical mass to trigger the change. The
colonists only had support from about 20% of the population. How much does
each stat
>
> What is different is all 50 states want to go their separate way.
Is this true? Cool!
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obert Holtzman wrote:
From: Robert Holtzman
Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 1:31 PM
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:10:17PM -0700, j...@actionline.com wrote:
>
> The Declaration of Independence states: "
May I point out that winning a war doesn't make you right... nor does it
make the opposition any more compliant in the long term...
If at first you don't secede, try and try again. :)
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:10:17PM -0700, j...@actio
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 04:10:17PM -0700, j...@actionline.com wrote:
>
> The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among
> men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that
> whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
> t
I think seceding is a grand *idea* but then what about all the people who
depend on the government for sustenance (social security)?
:-)~MIKE~(-:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Joe Gibbs wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is OT topic by a lot.
>
> Please keep politics and religion off a tech blog, unless
Hi,
This is OT topic by a lot.
Please keep politics and religion off a tech blog, unless of course you
want to be added to the ignore list and ALL your posts are tossed into the
trash pile without being read.
If I wanted to read about someone's personal politics I would go to one of
the many sit
I agree about this not being a place to discuss politics. Correct me if
I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that this list is for the
discussion of issues dealing with linux.
Also no matter who you vote for, you'll end up with a collection of
crooked politicians.
Lists dedicated to discuss
Btw, While I voiced that we take a different direction I would like to say I
have the utmost respect for Joe and I always value his opinion.
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 11/14/12, j...@actionline.com wrote:
From: j...@actionline.com
Subject: OT: Time for substantive
It's OT, discard it if you don't like it.
OT is an accepted format at PLUG, however, this is not a moderated list.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Mark Phillips
wrote:
> And what does this thread have to do with LINUX?
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:36 PM, JD Austin wrote:
>
>> AND
And what does this thread have to do with LINUX?
Mark
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:36 PM, JD Austin wrote:
> AND once you sign ANY petition there (which has about as much weight
> as an idea) they spam the heck out of you with more petitions to sign.. no
> thanks!
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 201
AND once you sign ANY petition there (which has about as much weight as
an idea) they spam the heck out of you with more petitions to sign.. no
thanks!
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Wayne Davis wrote:
> On 11/14/2012 04:10 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
>
> The Declaration of Independence
: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 5:03 PM
I guess that a majority of the vote nationwide and a huge margin in the
electoral college somehow does not indicate "consent of the governed". I
wholeheartedly agr
I guess that a majority of the vote nationwide and a huge margin in the
electoral college somehow does not indicate "consent of the governed". I
wholeheartedly agree that this list is NOT the place for any discussion of
politics.
Original message intentionally omitted from my response
>From
Hi Joe,
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:10 PM, wrote:
>
> The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among
> men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that
> whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
> the Right of the Peo
Any contract can be broken.
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 11/14/12, Wayne Davis wrote:
From: Wayne Davis
Subject: Re: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 4:30 PM
On 11/14/201
bited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people.
Keith Smith
--- On Wed, 11/14/12, j...@actionline.com wrote:
From: j...@actionline.com
Subject: OT: Time for substantive change.
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
On 11/14/2012 04:10 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among
men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that
whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
the Right of the People to a
Thanks no. And I find this inappropriate for this list.
On Nov 14, 2012 4:17 PM, wrote:
>
> The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among
> men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that
> whenever any form of government becomes destructive of t
The Declaration of Independence states: "Governments are instituted among
men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that
whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new
Government."
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