Re: Bitlocker and Linux - Visio
Darn, I was hoping that would work for you. Oh well... I tend to use Inkscape myself, (which can also import Visio files) but unless you already use Inkscape it can have a pretty steep learning curve if you just want to make nice network diagrams and such. That being said, if you get past that learning curve it can create some fantastic results that will exceed most other programs output. I was also going to suggest Libreoffice Draw as well, most people don't realize what it can do, but it sounds like you've already been there done that. It's certainly capable, but it has always felt clunky to me. It could use a good interface overhaul maybe someday. Brian Cluff On 10/18/2016 11:24 AM, Michael Butash wrote: I hadn't, but just did... Doesn't look too bad, but I really need bi-directional import and export of visio formats. That and I never really use them for actual flow charts as most software seems to presume I want to do. I end up doing some very detailed network diagrams for customers and employers, where I've found nothing really comes close. All the network vendors at very least dump out visio objects of their devices to work with, and anything else is variable. Some do omnigraffle, which is great if you (over)paid for a mac. I even do stuff like construction architectural layouts in visio when working on my house. I built a full-scale representation of my house I use to model my reconstruction efforts in. Nothing else seems to offer the same flexibility as visio. I did/do occasionally use lucidchart, it's about the most compatible I've found, but still does stupid things like not import layers properly, of which I've had a bug/feature request (feature: make it actually work right) for 2 years now. I use a lot of layers in my visios... Even libreoffice draw somewhat works with visios, but they're always horribly broken rendering things for me when I try. I've never really considered even trying to create one in it, but in a pinch I can at least somewhat look at them without firing up my windoze vm. For pure networking, yEd was pretty cool, and someone went through and at least converted most of the popular cisco stencils for it when last tried in 2014 or so. Some of the cisco guys I knew were working with it internally, so we tried using it at one of my last fte gigs years ago. It was basic, good enough, but in no means as detailed as visio. We all just sorta went back to using visio eventually. If only microsoft hadn't acquired them, it seems to be only going down hill since visio 2007, much as microsoft has. -mb On 10/18/2016 10:48 AM, Brian Cluff wrote: On 10/18/2016 10:08 AM, Michael Butash wrote: I'm still down to only visio I simply haven't found a suitable replacement for yet. Have you looked at Calligra Flow? I believe it even loads (but not saves) Visio files these days. I'm sure it's not as feature rich as Visio, but it might do enough to satisfy your needs. Brian Cluff --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Bitlocker and Linux - Visio
I run visio in crossover linux without issues. -- JD Austin Voice: 480.269.4335 (480 2MY Geek) j...@twingeckos.com On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Michael Butash wrote: > I hadn't, but just did... Doesn't look too bad, but I really need > bi-directional import and export of visio formats. That and I never really > use them for actual flow charts as most software seems to presume I want to > do. > > I end up doing some very detailed network diagrams for customers and > employers, where I've found nothing really comes close. All the network > vendors at very least dump out visio objects of their devices to work with, > and anything else is variable. Some do omnigraffle, which is great if you > (over)paid for a mac. I even do stuff like construction architectural > layouts in visio when working on my house. I built a full-scale > representation of my house I use to model my reconstruction efforts in. > Nothing else seems to offer the same flexibility as visio. > > I did/do occasionally use lucidchart, it's about the most compatible I've > found, but still does stupid things like not import layers properly, of > which I've had a bug/feature request (feature: make it actually work right) > for 2 years now. I use a lot of layers in my visios... > > Even libreoffice draw somewhat works with visios, but they're always > horribly broken rendering things for me when I try. I've never really > considered even trying to create one in it, but in a pinch I can at least > somewhat look at them without firing up my windoze vm. > > For pure networking, yEd was pretty cool, and someone went through and at > least converted most of the popular cisco stencils for it when last tried > in 2014 or so. Some of the cisco guys I knew were working with it > internally, so we tried using it at one of my last fte gigs years ago. It > was basic, good enough, but in no means as detailed as visio. We all just > sorta went back to using visio eventually. > > If only microsoft hadn't acquired them, it seems to be only going down > hill since visio 2007, much as microsoft has. > > -mb > > > > On 10/18/2016 10:48 AM, Brian Cluff wrote: > >> On 10/18/2016 10:08 AM, Michael Butash wrote: >> >>> I'm still down to only visio I simply haven't found a suitable >>> replacement for yet. >>> >> >> Have you looked at Calligra Flow? I believe it even loads (but not >> saves) Visio files these days. I'm sure it's not as feature rich as Visio, >> but it might do enough to satisfy your needs. >> >> Brian Cluff >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Bitlocker and Linux - Visio
I hadn't, but just did... Doesn't look too bad, but I really need bi-directional import and export of visio formats. That and I never really use them for actual flow charts as most software seems to presume I want to do. I end up doing some very detailed network diagrams for customers and employers, where I've found nothing really comes close. All the network vendors at very least dump out visio objects of their devices to work with, and anything else is variable. Some do omnigraffle, which is great if you (over)paid for a mac. I even do stuff like construction architectural layouts in visio when working on my house. I built a full-scale representation of my house I use to model my reconstruction efforts in. Nothing else seems to offer the same flexibility as visio. I did/do occasionally use lucidchart, it's about the most compatible I've found, but still does stupid things like not import layers properly, of which I've had a bug/feature request (feature: make it actually work right) for 2 years now. I use a lot of layers in my visios... Even libreoffice draw somewhat works with visios, but they're always horribly broken rendering things for me when I try. I've never really considered even trying to create one in it, but in a pinch I can at least somewhat look at them without firing up my windoze vm. For pure networking, yEd was pretty cool, and someone went through and at least converted most of the popular cisco stencils for it when last tried in 2014 or so. Some of the cisco guys I knew were working with it internally, so we tried using it at one of my last fte gigs years ago. It was basic, good enough, but in no means as detailed as visio. We all just sorta went back to using visio eventually. If only microsoft hadn't acquired them, it seems to be only going down hill since visio 2007, much as microsoft has. -mb On 10/18/2016 10:48 AM, Brian Cluff wrote: On 10/18/2016 10:08 AM, Michael Butash wrote: I'm still down to only visio I simply haven't found a suitable replacement for yet. Have you looked at Calligra Flow? I believe it even loads (but not saves) Visio files these days. I'm sure it's not as feature rich as Visio, but it might do enough to satisfy your needs. Brian Cluff --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Bitlocker and Linux - Visio
On 10/18/2016 10:08 AM, Michael Butash wrote: I'm still down to only visio I simply haven't found a suitable replacement for yet. Have you looked at Calligra Flow? I believe it even loads (but not saves) Visio files these days. I'm sure it's not as feature rich as Visio, but it might do enough to satisfy your needs. Brian Cluff --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
