Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-12-10 Thread Mayuresh
On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 12:27:47PM -0800, amarendra godbole wrote: > With experience, anything that purports to be the true way -- is > religion, vim is no exception. I believe in using the right tool for > the job AND having a choice in making that determination. :-) Of course everybody should

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-12-09 Thread amarendra godbole
With experience, anything that purports to be the true way -- is religion, vim is no exception. I believe in using the right tool for the job AND having a choice in making that determination. :-) Thanks. -ag On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:43 PM Shridhar Daithankar wrote: > > On २६/११/१९ ९:२१ म.पू.,

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-30 Thread Tejas Sanap
Hey! On Sun 1 Dec, 2019, 12:35 AM Dhanesh B. Sabane, wrote: > Hey Tejas, > > Can we do it a bit later? Like 21st December maybe? :P > I think it's best not to plan anything between 21st-31st. Most people have other plans, some even have to go back to their hometowns. But, if everyone agrees

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-30 Thread Tejas Sanap
-- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me On Sun 1 Dec, 2019, 12:35 AM Dhanesh B. Sabane, wrote: > Hey Tejas, > > Can we do it a bit later? Like 21st December maybe? :P > I think, it's best not to plan between 20th-31st. Since, some people have to go home back to their

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-30 Thread Dhanesh B. Sabane
Hey Tejas, On Fri, 2019-11-29 at 16:45 +0530, Tejas Sanap wrote: > Hey, folks! > > On Thu 28 Nov, 2019, 11:13 AM Sudhanwa Jogalekar, < > sudhanwa@gmail.com> wrote: > > Haven't seen the old timers in real world in many years!! Let's > > meet in this year itself during some PLUG meeting. > >

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-29 Thread Tejas Sanap
Hey, folks! On Thu 28 Nov, 2019, 11:13 AM Sudhanwa Jogalekar, wrote: > Haven't seen the old timers in real world in many years!! Let's meet in > this year itself during some PLUG meeting. > > What you guys say?? > -sudhanwa > We can certainly do that! Does the next Saturday (7th of December)

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-29 Thread Inkar Nation
Ancient time they used to measure time taken to code same number of lines & also no. of keystrokes required to achieve it... as a parameter called benchmark. ⁣UnPLUGed for Life ... Clean Air, Bright Sunshine & Good bit of Rain...​ On 25 Nov 2019, 10:37 AM, at 10:37 AM, Mayuresh wrote: >On

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-27 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Haven't seen the old timers in real world in many years!! Let's meet in this year itself during some PLUG meeting. What you guys say?? -sudhanwa On Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 8:43 AM Shridhar Daithankar wrote: > On २७/११/१९ ९:२५ म.उ., Mayuresh wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:35:58AM +0530,

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-27 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On २७/११/१९ ९:२५ म.उ., Mayuresh wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:35:58AM +0530, Gaurav Pant wrote: >>Long time no see of use of abbr. > > And the poster too... When was last that Shridhar posted? :) long time I guess, at least a year. Good to see you too. -- Regards Shridhar

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-27 Thread Mayuresh
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:35:58AM +0530, Gaurav Pant wrote: >Long time no see of use of abbr. And the poster too... When was last that Shridhar posted? Mayuresh ___ plug-mail mailing list plug-mail@plug.org.in

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-26 Thread AlphaOmega
On Nov 27, 2019 8:12 AM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:On २६/११/१९ ९:२१ म.पू., Tejas Sanap wrote: > On Mon 25 Nov, 2019, 10:37 PM Shridhar Daithankar, < > ghodech...@ghodechhap.net> wrote: > >> IME the situation is not that rosy. People cannot read/write a single >> line of code, if they don't have

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-26 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On २६/११/१९ ९:२१ म.पू., Tejas Sanap wrote: > On Mon 25 Nov, 2019, 10:37 PM Shridhar Daithankar, < > ghodech...@ghodechhap.net> wrote: > >> IME the situation is not that rosy. People cannot read/write a single >> line of code, if they don't have an IDE. They don't understand the >> working of IDE

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-26 Thread Tejas Sanap
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:35:58AM +0530, Gaurav Pant wrote: > > Long time no see of use of abbr. Took some time to fine out: *IME means "*In > My Experience" > :D Haha... I had to google to it, too. -- Tejas Sanap. (whereistejas on Freenode) https://whereistejas.me

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-26 Thread Tejas Sanap
On Mon 25 Nov, 2019, 10:37 PM Shridhar Daithankar, < ghodech...@ghodechhap.net> wrote: > IME the situation is not that rosy. People cannot read/write a single > line of code, if they don't have an IDE. They don't understand the > working of IDE or the tools offered by it either. > The question

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-26 Thread Gaurav Pant
Hi, On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:37 PM Shridhar Daithankar < ghodech...@ghodechhap.net> wrote: > On २५/११/१९ १०:३७ म.पू., Mayuresh wrote: > > With due respect for benefits of IDEs, they also make programmers blind > to > > the underlying system. They just don't want to leave the cosy comfort of >

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-25 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On २५/११/१९ १०:३७ म.पू., Mayuresh wrote: > With due respect for benefits of IDEs, they also make programmers blind to > the underlying system. They just don't want to leave the cosy comfort of > their IDE once they get used to it and never get a chance to learn and > master the underlying

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-24 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
After many years of usage, I stopped using CLI quite some time back. But still use vi kind of editors a few times. This reminds me of the best editor I ever used -- BRIEF . Just checked that Wikipedia page and found that few things in vim come from brief !! Just check the features in it that are

Re: [PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-24 Thread Mayuresh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 09:00:49AM +0530, Tejas Sanap wrote: >it presents a considerable learning curve, especially, to the novice Yes, learning curve is the right word, but often people mistake it for `usability'. Usability is to be measured after crossing the learning curve. Those who even

[PLUG] I wish, I knew this when I started with Vim

2019-11-24 Thread Tejas Sanap
Hey, folks! As the world rides the "VS Code" wave and it's extensive list of extensions that are easy to set up and even easier to configure, some of us, stick to the Old Way of Vim. However, as effective as vi/vim may be, it presents a considerable learning curve, especially, to the novice