Re: [PLUG] Self Analysis
needs of accountability and transparency can never be underestimated... -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Self Analysis
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Sriram Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of free time and of how shy they are about meeting other tech enthusiasts. I sometimes think LUGs take the tech enthusiasts thing too far - scaring away lay users like me who are not interested in programming languages or database administration, but in solving day-to-day computing issues. Usually happens when you have a large number of students participating in the group. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nishit Dave wrote: | Thanks for the illuminating explanation. My comment was more | regarding the so called internationalisation efforts, e.g. in Fedora 8 | / KDE / Ubuntu 7.10, where only a very few menu items are changed to | Indic languages, and the system as a whole throws up messages in | English. Can you provide examples of such instances please - with language and menu items where you see English cropping up ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHwh/UXQZpNTcrCzMRAvsVAKC0Cij2HX4qXSNqyluZUDHTrRpzggCeMGrI 0/YvpBvGJxr0SjNmtWMmAvk= =NDAi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nishit Dave wrote: | I am not so thoroughly well-versed in all matters techno-FOSS, but I | think localization is a term that gets bandied about freely, and | that's what I was talking about. Just another way of putting in my | 2c. http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/2008/01/14/the-oft-asked-question/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHwh+MXQZpNTcrCzMRAqfRAJ9wAEA31fsdH76WemKJGZEP536oTACfTE1V /HSvZ71UhZh0mo+5NtAWNSQ= =UAAI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Self Analysis
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Sriram Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of free time and of how shy they are about meeting other tech enthusiasts. I sometimes think LUGs take the tech enthusiasts thing too far - scaring away lay users like me who are not interested in programming languages or database administration, but in solving day-to-day computing issues. Usually happens when you have a large number of students participating in the group. You are so right. What I've found interesting is to get the techies to apply their knowledge to solve a problem. === I have a small business selling carpets and handicrafts. With the grace of God, my business is now expanding, and I will be able to offer employment to about 10 people. Each of these persons will use MS Office and Internet explorer. I don't have much money right now to opt for high end computers or for licensed software. I'm considering hiring desktops and using pirated copies of Windows and MS Office on those. Are there any legal options available for me ? === I'm using a Foxpro 2.6 for DOS based application which is working just fine. However, my old computer is about to die - the hard disk is starting to make some clanking noise, and the computer hangs after six hours of use. My hardware technician tells me that I should replace this with a new computer. I do not want to put in too much money on very high end systems and pay for a fancy GUI that I will never even use. The technician tells me that Vista is good for viewing DVD movies, but I already have a DVD player at home. Are there any other options that my technician has not considered for me ? === We have one internet connection in the office, and this line is connected to an office PC. So far, we've been using the PC on a turn by turn basis. But sometimes, we have to ask the customer to wait too long before we get a chance to send them an email. Our present solution is to type the mails in Word, save the documents onto a floppy, and to then sit on the internet PC and upload that document. We're considering connecting internet access to one more PC as a short term measure. Is there any low cost ISP who can provide us with dedicated connections to each and every PC that we have ? (This was a case where the people hadn't heard of a LAN, or of internet connection sharing, or of line bonding) === With real world problem statements like that, the tech folks would be challenged to come up with an implementation where the costs, the technology, the suport angle, etc, all have to be considered. It is one thing to discuss abstract issues on a mailing list. It is quite another thing to put together a concrete system such as a solution for the above. Tossing together a network with Ubuntu is no big deal - I do it all the time. But then we're the techies. It's the non-techies for whom such things are a big deal, and for whom seeing a solution materialize in front of them would be very very mind-broadening. I know an ex-insurance agent based in Pune who has quit his insurance business and has started to offer solutions to people who have problem statements such as the above. This person, Arun Tomar, is a PLUG member, btw. Perhaps future PLUG meets of CSLug meets could actually have an exercise where people implement solutions to the above. People who have never set up networks before could now actually setup networks. And those who're wondering just how one makes money using open source software would now get to understand that there is a market for providing services. -- Sriram -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Self Analysis
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Sriram Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Sriram Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of free time and of how shy they are about meeting other tech enthusiasts. I sometimes think LUGs take the tech enthusiasts thing too far - scaring away lay users like me who are not interested in programming languages or database administration, but in solving day-to-day computing issues. Usually happens when you have a large number of students participating in the group. Lest some students mis-understand what Nishit is saying here: Students are exposed to technology and are students of technology. Consequentially, their focus remains technology. If they were to see how technology could be applied, suddenly they'd start to even study in a different way. While working in Nashik, I once taught a COM/DCOM programming course. Most students had never written much code beyond basic assignments. I was used to having to deal with that having been a mentor for B.E. projects. So when I decided to teach the course, I chose to change the rules a bit. One, every session that we had together comprised of me telling folks how the topic of the day was applied to solve real world problems. Another different thing was with the assignments : I encouraged everyone to copy from each other, and to tell me just what they had to copy and why. It was just fine if the class as a whole sent me a solution, but individuals could send me separate solutions too. This led to a higher degree of collaboration and learning (in my observation), prompted people to speak up and to ask questions, and to set out finding parallels in the real world. People focus on that which they see in front of them. Perhaps it's time for PLUG to try additional things at PLUG meets - what we take for granted (real world problems), may be new stuff for students (apply technology to solve real world problems) :) -- Sriram -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you provide examples of such instances please - with language and menu items where you see English cropping up ? IIRC, Gujarati in Fedora 8, probably also Hindi in Ubuntu Gutsy. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] Need freelancer for Low level SPI device driver
Hello, We are adding MMC card support for our Linux boards and need quick support in designing the low level SPI device driver. Please mail back to saplingconsultants at gmail dot com if you can undertake the work. The toolchain and the board shall be made available for the work. Let us know the tentative schedule as well as expected remuneration. Note: We are located in Magarpatta City, Hadapsar, Pune. Regards, Ashutosh -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Self Analysis
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Sriram Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lest some students mis-understand what Nishit is saying here: Students are exposed to technology and are students of technology. Consequentially, their focus remains technology. If they were to see how technology could be applied, suddenly they'd start to even study in a different way. While working in Nashik, I once taught a COM/DCOM programming course. Most students had never written much code beyond basic assignments. I was used to having to deal with that having been a mentor for B.E. projects. So when I decided to teach the course, I chose to change the rules a bit. One, every session that we had together comprised of me telling folks how the topic of the day was applied to solve real world problems. Another different thing was with the assignments : I encouraged everyone to copy from each other, and to tell me just what they had to copy and why. It was just fine if the class as a whole sent me a solution, but individuals could send me separate solutions too. This led to a higher degree of collaboration and learning (in my observation), prompted people to speak up and to ask questions, and to set out finding parallels in the real world. People focus on that which they see in front of them. Perhaps it's time for PLUG to try additional things at PLUG meets - what we take for granted (real world problems), may be new stuff for students (apply technology to solve real world problems) :) Well, this deserves a Hall of Fame. Thanks. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, Gujarati in Fedora 8, probably also Hindi in Ubuntu Gutsy. Would it be possible for you to recall the specific menu items ? -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Self Analysis
www.ncomputing.com based solution will help you money and some headache, but I do not know how you could use your old software on that. I would advise to use Linux + OpenOffice combination. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible for you to recall the specific menu items ? I have Fedora 8 in dual boot on my laptop. Will upload screenshots after some time to my blog and send a link. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
