Re: [PLUG] Linux Journal Readers' choice awards 2013

2014-01-14 Thread Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे
 Can you elaborate what moving with times means? Tools of the newer times
 make me no more productive than those of yesteryear, so I don't see much a
 point.


It was a generic remark - may or may not apply in the context of mutt -
hence the Disclaimer at the end of my original email
Anyway, let me try to elaborate further. Since we are talking generic the
situation may or may not apply in your case.

When choosing a tool, I typically check when was the last active
development.
If my requirement is low enough - something that isn't updated in few years
might also work for me now
but when I need a security update, and no one is maintaining it, I am out
of luck (I know, open source, fix it yourself, but honestly just because
one has access to source, doesn't mean one has skills to fix)

In this scenario - I might be better off with something that is actively
being developed (Doesn't mean bleeding edge, cause it has different
problems)

That is what I meant by moving with times

On a lighter note - Original comment was in the context of feeling like
part of museum.
If you feel productive with your current set of tools, then you
shouldn't feel ancient/part of museum/endangered specie.
What am I missing ?

-Mandar
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Re: [PLUG] Linux Journal Readers' choice awards 2013

2014-01-14 Thread Mayuresh
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 05:20:51PM +0530, Mandar Vaze / ? ??? wrote:
 If you feel productive with your current set of tools, then you
 shouldn't feel ancient/part of museum/endangered specie.
 What am I missing ?

No I was not feeling ancient/museum/endangered. If you read my mail it
was about a perception about people who use such platforms. The remark was
in the context of mutt's %share being very low.

If you ask me, I really don't care about usage % etc. Yes, I do keep
reasserting my platforms for suitability for changing usage patterns,
improvising for information management. If something necessitates so I'll
change my platforms. But it has not happened in many years, though things
done by me around the platforms keep evolving.

Mayuresh

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Re: [PLUG] Linux Journal Readers' choice awards 2013

2014-01-14 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे
mandarv...@gmail.com wrote:
 When choosing a tool, I typically check when was the last active
 development.
 If my requirement is low enough - something that isn't updated in few years
 might also work for me now
 but when I need a security update, and no one is maintaining it, I am out
 of luck (I know, open source, fix it yourself, but honestly just because
 one has access to source, doesn't mean one has skills to fix)

Mutt does have activity. At least https://github.com/karelzak/mutt-kz has.

Applications are as good as the design decisions which result in their
development. If someone finds that that new fangled applications are
not providing enough merit to switchover, the possible reason might be
that the decisions of design and user experience are something that
does not meet this user's requirement. That happens all the time and,
there's not much achieved by boiling the ocean.


-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan

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