Re: [PLUG] Plone Vs Joomla
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manas Alekar wrote: Hello, I was wondering if people have tried deploying Joomla and/or plone. Any comments would be wonderful. http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHJShbXQZpNTcrCzMRAqAzAJ44VHRyGMrRS84NRi+w0Q2eZ4aiVwCgixC0 4U6g4F9RRakKl3+P8bq8jPA= =g5ef -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Plone Vs Joomla
On 10/23/07, Manas Alekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was wondering if people have tried deploying Joomla and/or plone. Any comments would be wonderful. Plone is a content management system built on a web application server(zope). It can practically mean that there is a lot in there than you may need. In my personal biased view it is great. Example, inbuilt workflows, very fine grained access control, http/ftp/webdav server etc. The best way would be to list down YOUR requirements first and then start a comparison. Else, there will unnecessary heat generation on public lists (if there are enough participants). Regards, Chetan -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Plone Vs Joomla
On 10/23/07, Manas Alekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost all hawkers (if I may use the term will respond with a yes to these generic requirements). 1. Powerful. 1.5. Highly functional (I don't want to go about hunting for a new CMS or writing a new plugin.) It is powerful if you mean taking load. There is list of sites plone on plone.org If you mean from programming point of view. Plone is moving towards component architecture (just like zope3). The current version of plone is built on zope2. It is possible to do zope3 things with plone even at this stage (I am digressing now) On functionality specifics will help a LOT. Example, do you want to host a blog? 2. Clean. If you mean not_kludgy_like_PHP (sorry folks, at worst I may be passing on a bad meme I picked from somewhere) It has clean look if you mean that. One of the plone founders is a User Interface Designer at google since year (based on the clean feel of the default plone site) 3. All the tough stuff hidden away from the user. End-user? 4. Easy to maintain (I don't mind bleeding during setups.) It is easy. 5. Secure, with access control lists. Yes. Regards, Chetan -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Plone Vs Joomla
Almost all hawkers hawkers ? 1. Powerful. 1.5. Highly functional (I don't want to go about hunting for a new CMS or writing a new plugin.) It is powerful if you mean taking load. Yes. Functional = lot of functionality available as modules or built in. Example : Event Calendar. These stupid requirements keep turning up all the time our of nowhere. And no, I cannot draft them at the outset. Example, do you want to host a blog? Who knows ? 2. Clean. If you mean not_kludgy_like_PHP (sorry folks, at worst I may be passing on a bad meme I picked from somewhere) It has clean look if you mean that. One of the plone founders is a User Interface Designer at google since year (based on the clean feel of the default plone site) That answers my question :) 3. All the tough stuff hidden away from the user. End-user? Yes. 4. Easy to maintain (I don't mind bleeding during setups.) It is easy. 5. Secure, with access control lists. Yes. Regards, Chetan -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Plone Vs Joomla
On 10/23/07, Manas Alekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost all hawkers hawkers ? I did ask to be excused for this. Hawker ~= vendor. Let us forget this. 1. Powerful. 1.5. Highly functional (I don't want to go about hunting for a new CMS or writing a new plugin.) It is powerful if you mean taking load. Yes. There are no issues. If you are REALLY looking at load then use ZEO (Zope Enterprize Objects) as plugin for load distribution/balancing. It is painless approach. Now it is getting into specifics. Functional = lot of functionality available as modules or built in. Example : Event Calendar. These stupid requirements keep turning up all the time our of nowhere. And no, I cannot draft them at the outset. Example, do you want to host a blog? Who knows ? You are looking for a truly extensible system. zope is an OO web application server. This may be a good start for a thought process on what is possible. 3. All the tough stuff hidden away from the user. End-user? Yes. The average surfer will not notice. If you mean a programmer, designer, and database administrator roles. That is not an issue at all as one can provide access to each of these roles interacting with the site as per requirements (what is ugly to the designer may be sweet to the programmer). This is again a matter of detail. 4. Easy to maintain (I don't mind bleeding during setups.) It is easy. 5. Secure, with access control lists. Yes. Short replay is yes. Rest is a matter of detail. There is some wisdom available here http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Image:How_to_choose_open_source_cms.pdf Regards, Chetan -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Plone Vs Joomla
Both are pretty good. Joomla is specifically targeted to be a WCMS. Plone, a general purpose CMS. Alfresco is yet another option you might want to look at. IMHO, Plone has now aged and there was a time when it would have been the best Open Source CMS. There are many other you may want to consider: Drupal, XOOPS, etc. Agree with Chetan. Put down your requirements first. Also check what hardware and software infrastructure you have available. Joomla would run on as simple as a LAMP platform so cost of deployment is much less than Plone or Alfresco. HTH, Chintan. On 10/23/07, Manas Alekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was wondering if people have tried deploying Joomla and/or plone. Any comments would be wonderful. Cheers, Manas -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. -- Chintan Zaveri (Open Source Consultant) Smile India Solutions +91.937.778.3777 -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Plone Vs Joomla
Dear sir, I installed plone as well as joomla in my office under fedora core 4 environment. installation will be easy. Not yet deployed. Regards nageswaran On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 Manas Alekar wrote : Hello, I was wondering if people have tried deploying Joomla and/or plone. Any comments would be wonderful. Cheers, Manas -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. * N.Nageswaran Scientific / Technical Assistant II - Library Inter University Centre for Astronomy and Astrophysics (IUCAA), Post Bag 4, Ganeshkhind, Pune - 411 007. PH : 020 - 25604308 (o) 020 - 25604456 (R) Mobile :09422002976 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://www.iucaa.ernet.in/~nagesh ** I forget what i was taught. I only remember what i have learnt - Patrick White -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Plone Vs Joomla
Hi all This should be educative http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user/73787 Regards, Chetan -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
