Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Denis Heidtmann wrote:


I was just part of a Zoom call where one of the participants used just his
phone and he seemed to be able to see all of us.


Denis,

Thanks for the information. I'll call in to Friday's conference.

Regards,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Tom]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:32:57 -0700
Galen Seitz  wrote:

> On 3/25/20 1:04 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> > I was just part of a Zoom call where one of the participants used
> > just his phone and he seemed to be able to see all of us.
> 
> Was that a Princess phone or just the standard desktop Model 2500? 
> Yeah, I'm so old, that's what my first thought was.  Of course I'm
> also sitting here imagining our next PLUG meeting as some online
> version of The Hollywood Squares.
> 
> galen

Will there be a Mumble bridge? PTSN telephone access is going to sound
 very degraded (8Khz GSM.722) and web-browser solutions are very
 unreliable.

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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[wes]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:47 PM John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> It might be easiest to
> use a browser - Chromium or Firefox, which play videos with sound just
> fine. I have several old microphones that I can plug into the desktop,
> but I'm unclear how I would make the browser pick up the microphone and
> then have the presenter know that I have my hand up to ask a question.
>
>
If you (or anyone) would like to do a test run of online conferencing, I'd
be happy to host a meeting so you can begin working out the details before
an actual meeting time.

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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Galen Seitz]

On 3/25/20 1:04 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote:

I was just part of a Zoom call where one of the participants used just his
phone and he seemed to be able to see all of us.


Was that a Princess phone or just the standard desktop Model 2500? 
Yeah, I'm so old, that's what my first thought was.  Of course I'm also 
sitting here imagining our next PLUG meeting as some online version of 
The Hollywood Squares.


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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 12:33:32 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Erik Lane wrote:
>
>> You can fully participate in a Zoom call by telephone. You don't
>> need a webcam to ask questions. If there's video, of course you
>> would need a computer running for that, but dial-in works for both
>> listening and talking, just like any teleconference service.
>
>D'oh! Of course. Too many distractions when I wrote that response.

My telephone is ancient, and I dislike using it. And no, a new phone
would be even worse - it's the new features that I hate. So I would
much prefer to do it all on my desktop computer. It might be easiest to
use a browser - Chromium or Firefox, which play videos with sound just
fine. I have several old microphones that I can plug into the desktop,
but I'm unclear how I would make the browser pick up the microphone and
then have the presenter know that I have my hand up to ask a question.

For me, live audience interaction is fundamental to the 'group' thing.
Would the presenter be able to see the audience, perhaps as small
squares on a monitor? If I was presenting I'd want to be able to see my
audience.

Maybe I just need to wait until April 2 when we can actually do a
virtual PLUG meeting. In fact, a good topic for April 2 might be 'How
to run an effective video meeting on Linux.'
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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Denis Heidtmann wrote:


I was just part of a Zoom call where one of the participants used just his
phone and he seemed to be able to see all of us.


Denis,

That's good to know. I'm registered for a Zoom conference Friday morning.

Thanks!

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Denis Heidtmann]

I was just part of a Zoom call where one of the participants used just his
phone and he seemed to be able to see all of us.

-Denis

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 12:12 PM Erik Lane  wrote:

> You can fully participate in a Zoom call by telephone. You don't need a
> webcam to ask questions. If there's video, of course you would need a
> computer running for that, but dial-in works for both listening and
> talking, just like any teleconference service.
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 11:54 AM Rich Shepard 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> >
> > > But I am interested only in receiving broadcasts of the PLUG meetings,
> > > hence I assume that I would not need a camera. On my desk I have my
> > laptop
> > > and the monitor for my desktop computer. I'd prefer to use the desktop
> > > computer for the meetings, so I assume its lack of a camera would not
> be
> > a
> > > problem. Do I still need to install Zoom? Oh wait ... what if I want to
> > > ask a question? Hmm, I think I need more instructions.
> >
> > To participate passively an audio connection (e.g., telephone) is all you
> > need. To ask questions you need a microphone which appearently comes with
> > webcams.
> >
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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Erik Lane wrote:


You can fully participate in a Zoom call by telephone. You don't need a
webcam to ask questions. If there's video, of course you would need a
computer running for that, but dial-in works for both listening and
talking, just like any teleconference service.


D'oh! Of course. Too many distractions when I wrote that response.

Thanks for the correction, Erik.

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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Erik Lane]

You can fully participate in a Zoom call by telephone. You don't need a
webcam to ask questions. If there's video, of course you would need a
computer running for that, but dial-in works for both listening and
talking, just like any teleconference service.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 11:54 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
> > But I am interested only in receiving broadcasts of the PLUG meetings,
> > hence I assume that I would not need a camera. On my desk I have my
> laptop
> > and the monitor for my desktop computer. I'd prefer to use the desktop
> > computer for the meetings, so I assume its lack of a camera would not be
> a
> > problem. Do I still need to install Zoom? Oh wait ... what if I want to
> > ask a question? Hmm, I think I need more instructions.
>
> To participate passively an audio connection (e.g., telephone) is all you
> need. To ask questions you need a microphone which appearently comes with
> webcams.
>
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, John Jason Jordan wrote:


But I am interested only in receiving broadcasts of the PLUG meetings,
hence I assume that I would not need a camera. On my desk I have my laptop
and the monitor for my desktop computer. I'd prefer to use the desktop
computer for the meetings, so I assume its lack of a camera would not be a
problem. Do I still need to install Zoom? Oh wait ... what if I want to
ask a question? Hmm, I think I need more instructions.


To participate passively an audio connection (e.g., telephone) is all you
need. To ask questions you need a microphone which appearently comes with
webcams.

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 10:55:57 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
>> It's an "Anivia 1080p HD Webcam W8, USB Desktop Laptop Camera, Mini
>> Plug and Play Video Calling Computer Camera, Built-in Mic, Flexible
>> Rotatable Clip" .
>
>I forgot to mention that it has the latest beauty encoding algorithm;
>I can use all the help I can get. :-)

Moi aussi!

But I am interested only in receiving broadcasts of the PLUG meetings,
hence I assume that I would not need a camera. On my desk I have my
laptop and the monitor for my desktop computer. I'd prefer to use
the desktop computer for the meetings, so I assume its lack of a camera
would not be a problem. Do I still need to install Zoom? Oh wait ...
what if I want to ask a question? Hmm, I think I need more instructions.
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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Rich Shepard wrote:


It's an "Anivia 1080p HD Webcam W8, USB Desktop Laptop Camera, Mini Plug
and Play Video Calling Computer Camera, Built-in Mic, Flexible Rotatable
Clip" .


I forgot to mention that it has the latest beauty encoding algorithm; I can
use all the help I can get. :-)

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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, John Sechrest wrote:
(and so did Fred James)


Which camera did you select?


John/Fred,

It's an "Anivia 1080p HD Webcam W8, USB Desktop Laptop Camera, Mini Plug and
Play Video Calling Computer Camera, Built-in Mic, Flexible Rotatable Clip"
.

If you look at the second-from-bottom image on the product page you'll see
it supports linux (and other OSes) and Zoom (and other applications).

Given Amazon's focus on Prime members and warehouse employees with Covid-19
it will be several weeks before it finds its way here. I'm looking forward
to getting it up and running with Zoom so I can more effectively prospect
for new clients.

Stay well,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[John Sechrest]

Which camera did you select?


On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 9:23 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
> > I use my laptops only when I'm away from the office. I'm looking to buy a
> > desktop video camera, and microphone; I have speakers.
>
> I just bought a web cam with built in microphone(s). It's USB-connected so
> it will work with all hosts here.
>
> >> As for conferencing software, I haven't used any, but some folks at
> church
> >> are working on getting Zoom set up for us. I'll know more about how that
> >> works after Sunday morning.
> >
> > I'll look at that. My preferences are 1) open source and 2) available for
> > linux, MacOS, and Windows.
>
> Zoom's basic plan (free) and looks perfect. Meetings of three or more are
> limited to 40 minutes (should be sufficient, especially if everyone is
> standing), while 1-to-1 communications are unlimited. Works with all
> platforms (liux. macos, windows, android, ios) and all devices. When I'm
> the
> host others don't need to have zoom installed and can participate via
> video,
> audio, phone, desktop, laptop, phone, etc.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions,
>
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing [RESOLVED]

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Rich Shepard wrote:


I use my laptops only when I'm away from the office. I'm looking to buy a
desktop video camera, and microphone; I have speakers.


I just bought a web cam with built in microphone(s). It's USB-connected so
it will work with all hosts here.


As for conferencing software, I haven't used any, but some folks at church
are working on getting Zoom set up for us. I'll know more about how that
works after Sunday morning.


I'll look at that. My preferences are 1) open source and 2) available for
linux, MacOS, and Windows.


Zoom's basic plan (free) and looks perfect. Meetings of three or more are
limited to 40 minutes (should be sufficient, especially if everyone is
standing), while 1-to-1 communications are unlimited. Works with all
platforms (liux. macos, windows, android, ios) and all devices. When I'm the
host others don't need to have zoom installed and can participate via video,
audio, phone, desktop, laptop, phone, etc.

Thanks for the suggestions,

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020, Dick Steffens wrote:


The only experience I have with video conferencing is when I used Skype
for Linux to carry on a video call with a friend. The built in camera,
mic, and speakers worked fine. The laptop is a Lenovo Thinkpad X200
Tablet. (While they call it a tablet, the form factor is a laptop or
notebook.)


Dick/Frank,

I use my laptops only when I'm away from the office. I'm looking to buy a
desktop video camera, and microphone; I have speakers.


As for conferencing software, I haven't used any, but some folks at church
are working on getting Zoom set up for us. I'll know more about how that
works after Sunday morning.


I'll look at that. My preferences are 1) open source and 2) available for
linux, MacOS, and Windows.

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing

[Dick Steffens]

On 3/25/20 5:53 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
Remote conferencing is becoming more important for businesses. I've 
not used

any computer-connected video camera.

I'd like suggestion on what to buy and which software I should learn.


The only experience I have with video conferencing is when I used Skype 
for Linux to carry on a video call with a friend. The built in camera, 
mic, and speakers worked fine. The laptop is a Lenovo Thinkpad X200 
Tablet. (While they call it a tablet, the form factor is a laptop or 
notebook.)


As for conferencing software, I haven't used any, but some folks at 
church are working on getting Zoom set up for us. I'll know more about 
how that works after Sunday morning.



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Re: [PLUG] Remote video conferencing

[Frank Filz]

 
> Remote conferencing is becoming more important for businesses. I've not
used
> any computer-connected video camera.
> 
> I'd like suggestion on what to buy and which software I should learn.

I've just been using the camera in my laptop for years. It works pretty
well, though a bit annoying because I like to tilt my laptop screen away
from me so the camera is pointed up and just barely catches my head unless I
tilt the screen forward. After fighting with headsets I now just use the
laptops built in mic and it seems to work just fine.

Frank

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