I PM'd you the other day. Have a Dot and adding two Echoes tomorrow.
Using Harmony Hub + Alexa to control the two Radios in one room but
would be even better to directly control it all with Alexa.
*Sue*
-"If you're happy and you know it turn the volume up and 'blow it out'
Hi - longtime Squeezebox user here. I recently built an RPi 3
piCorePlayer with an Allo Boss DAC and RPi "official" display. Also
running LMS on this setup, having migrated LMS and music library off of
my Ubuntu server box.
Would love to have Alexa control over this setup. I have some linux
I've had Squeezeboxen pretty much since Slimdevices started. Bought my
first one directly from them and drove to their HQ to pick it up since
they were just down the road from me in Sunnyvale, :) Since then I've
added two more (Radio and a V3) and am using my new Clazio speaker as a
player. I
Hi,
I have a number of Squeezebox devices (2 radios, 1 boom, 2 Squeezebox
v3) and have recently purchased an Amazon Echo. I'd love to help with
testing your software.
Simon
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deruesch wrote:
> Hello Meep, and greetings from Germany.
>
> Could you add me into the Beta test phase?
> I have some Alexa capable devices by Homematic IP, two Squeezbox Radios
> and a Raspberry Pi with Picoreplayer installed.
>
> i'm not a programmer, but if i can help for a translation
Hello Meep, and greetings from Germany.
Could you add me into the Beta test phase?
I have some Alexa capable devices by Homematic IP, two Squeezbox Radios
and a Raspberry Pi with Picoreplayer installed.
i'm not a programmer, but if i can help for a translation let me know.
Thank you for
scoob101 wrote:
> HI Meep,
>
> Could you add me into the Beta test phase? I don`t have any Alexa
> capable devices yet, but i`ll be buying a dot just to try this out!
>
> I have 2 SB radios and a Transporter served by LMS on a windows server
> to test it out on.
Will do. PM me an email
HI Meep,
Could you add me into the Beta test phase? I don`t have any Alexa
capable devices yet, but i`ll be buying a dot just to try this out!
I have 2 SB radios and a Transporter served by LMS on a windows server
to test it out on.
Hi Steve
Absolutely. You sound like the ideal candidate!
Ping me a PM with your email address and I'll add you to the beta test
roster once we get that uyp and running in a few weeks.
ALEXA LMS SKILL: http://www.hab-tunes.com | Twitter: '#habtunes'
Hello Meep!
I am very interested in possibly helping test your Alexa control! I
have VERY limited computer experience But I do have an entire house of
squeezeboxes (11 devices).
Would you like a complete novicee to beat up your software?
Thanks
Steve
meep wrote:
> Hi Stefan
>
> I'll invite you to the Beta Test phase which should be mid-late August.
> I want a few new people at that point to be sure we get the real 'first
> time user' for the full suite of functionality.
Thank you very much :)
Hi Stefan
I'll invite you to the Beta Test phase which should be mid-late August.
I want a few new people at that point to be sure we get the real 'first
time user' for the full suite of functionality.
ALEXA LMS SKILL: http://www.hab-tunes.com | Twitter: '#habtunes'
Hello meep,
Thank you for your great work :)
If it is possible, I would also like to be a Tester.
I already have a Amazon-Developer-Account because of other staff
concerning Smart Home.
Best regrads
Stefan
Pitcher90's
meep wrote:
> Just a quick note to let people know progress has been slow this month
> due to personal time constraints. I have some time off work after next
> week so, following a much-needed family holiday, I'll have a clear run
> at getting us to Beta. mid August with a view to wrapping
Just a quick note to let people know progress has been slow this month
due to personal time constraints. I have some time off work after next
week so, following a much-needed family holiday, I'll have a clear run
at getting us to Beta. mid August with a view to wrapping things up by
the end of
grrman wrote:
> Seems like your list is getting pretty long, so why not add these two
> names to the list for controlling Alexa: Squeezebox & SqueezeMe.
> Thanks. I may want to become a tester at some point. I noticed you
> indicated that tester's must establish an Amazone Developer account -
Seems like your list is getting pretty long, so why not add these two
names to the list for controlling Alexa: Squeezebox & SqueezeMe.
Thanks. I may want to become a tester at some point. I noticed you
indicated that tester's must establish an Amazone Developer account - is
that correct?
Many
Hi meep,
I joined the forum today and just followed this thread.
I have actually 7 different squeezeboxe devices (touch, boom, duet,
etc.) and control them with a fhem server and use already an alexa skill
to control some devices on this server.
Your project is very interesting for me, so I
Hi Bob
You won't be able to send me a PM due to low post count but mail me the
address you used to register with Amazon Developer to admin at hab-tunes
dot com and I'll add you in.
Cheers
Peter
ALEXA LMS SKILL: http://www.hab-tunes.com | Twitter: '#habtunes'
GermanSqueezer wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> luckily I just stumbled upon this forum. I use three squeezeboxes that
> are linked to a LMS on a Qnap NAS and I play around with Alexa for a
> couple of months already.
>
> Any chance to become an "alpha-tester" as well in order to accelerate
> the
ronluna wrote:
> I have received and confirmed the registration email...Thanks! Although
> I've been looking for the teamwork email but seems like it was never
> sent as I can't find it in my inbox nor in my spam folder.
Hi Ronluna
Can you PM me here with your amazon developer e-mail please.
meep wrote:
> Hi Dirk
>
> You should have received an email invite to the Teamwork.com portal for
> the project? If not, check your spam folder.
>
> Once you have access to teamwork, access the 'Alexa LMS Skill' project
> from the dashboard and then click on the 'notebooks' tab. There you'll
>
meep wrote:
> Hi Dirk
>
> You should have received an email invite to the Teamwork.com portal for
> the project? If not, check your spam folder.
>
> Once you have access to teamwork, access the 'Alexa LMS Skill' project
> from the dashboard and then click on the 'notebooks' tab. There you'll
>
Dirk wrote:
> Hi
>
> Thanks for adding me to the beta testers. Where do I download the
> application?
>
> Regards
> Dirk
Hi Dirk
You should have received an email invite to the Teamwork.com portal for
the project? If not, check your spam folder.
Once you have access to teamwork, access the
meep wrote:
> We've just kicked off the next round of alpha which will bring us up to
> pretty much feature complete and ready to move into beta. Who would have
> thought it would have taken this long???
>
> I've issued tester invites to some people who've requested same over the
> past few
We've just kicked off the next round of alpha which will bring us up to
pretty much feature complete and ready to move into beta. Who would have
thought it would have taken this long???
I've issued tester invites to some people who've requested same over the
past few weeks. If you think you
Very cool!
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meep wrote:
> Here's a wip demo of alpha v0.2.1 showing new next/previous commands
> both through the skill and without skill invocation as well as a rather
> neat trick to play LMS streams directly to the echo itself...
>
>
https://youtu.be/qSw-OI5dgsI
That streaming is unbelievably good!
Here's a wip demo of alpha v0.2.1 showing new next/previous commands
both through the skill and without skill invocation as well as a rather
neat trick to play LMS streams directly to the echo itself...
https://youtu.be/qSw-OI5dgsI
ALEXA LMS SKILL: http://www.hab-tunes.com | Twitter:
Got what's hopefully the last of the alpha v0.2.0.x series out to
testers.
Looking forward to adding some new commands around track selection and
navigation.
Here's the most recent updates;
- Fixed a bug with version number reporting in long intro (skill)
- Fixed a bug with 'what would
badboygolf16v wrote:
> I bought a Google Home. Very nice hardware, but I returned it because 1)
> no Harmony integration in UK 2) no Hab-Tunes! :D
>
> Could be time to reassess...
Well, the focus is on getting Hab-Tunes for Alexa v1 out but once that's
done, it should be -relatively-
meep wrote:
> So it turns out building an app for Google Home is not a million miles
> away from an Amazon Alexa skill and I can reuse most of my work.
>
> Just sayin'.
I bought a Google Home. Very nice hardware, but I returned it because 1)
no Harmony integration in UK 2) no Hab-Tunes! :D
Hi,
I have been an avid squeezebox fan for years and evolved from pc to
pogoplug to raspberry pi / odroid and this looks great as I just bought
a dot. I would love to get involved with testing. I already have an
amazon developer account. I have a variety of squeezeboxes and also
running
So it turns out building an app for Google Home is not a million miles
away from an Amazon Alexa skill and I can reuse most of my work.
Just sayin'.
ALEXA LMS SKILL: http://www.hab-tunes.com | Twitter: '#habtunes'
(https://twitter.com/search?q=%23habtunes=typd=en)
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alnames wrote:
> Thanks Michael. Your posts are always very helpful.
trakila wrote:
> Just stumbled across this thread looking for a LMS skill to my Alexa.
> Looks great!
> If you need more testers I would be happy to help out. I got LMS 9.7
> running with 3x Radios, 1x Boom, 1x Duet and 1x
alnames wrote:
> Thanks Michael. Your posts are always very helpful.
yes, thanks indeed. That's a new piece of code that probably hasn't run
on more recent versions of perl yet so hopefully a straightforward fix.
alnames, I've responded to this in the teamwork portal and hope to have
an
mherger wrote:
> > Experimental each on scalar is now forbidden at
> >
> /usr/local/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Alexa/HabProxy.pm
> > line 1115.
>
> Most likely a removed feature in Perl 5.24:
>
> http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5240delta.html#The-autoderef-feature-has-been-removed
>
Experimental each on scalar is now forbidden at
/usr/local/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Alexa/HabProxy.pm
line 1115.
Most likely a removed feature in Perl 5.24:
http://perldoc.perl.org/perl5240delta.html#The-autoderef-feature-has-been-removed
Author needs to de-reference the
Everything else seems to work except the plugin (v0.2.0.3) on a
Raspberry Pi3 running Picorplayer v3.20 with LMS v7.9.0 - 1488878280.
This is what appears in the log:
Experimental each on scalar is now forbidden at
/usr/local/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Alexa/HabProxy.pm
line
Fantastic!
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Here's a new video demo showing some of the recent features such as
audio volume reduction while Alexa is listening, the ability to
configure extended listening & re-prompts, list and status reports and
some other stuff.
Apologies for the music selection - it's the only playlist I have in my
New release today with the changes listed below.
For those recently volunteered to test, assuming this turns out to be
stable enough, I'll be sending out your invites soon, probably tomorrow.
Version 0.2.0.3 (19th May 2017)
[*=left]Fixed an issue with selected device not saving
ToBicK9 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i'd love to test your Alex skill!
>
> I run Squeezebox in three different rooms on Raspberry Pi's.
>
> ...somehow my account after three days is still not fully unlocked so i
> can't write an PM - is there any other way to write you my data?
>
> Thanks!
> Tobias
Hi
Hi,
i'd love to test your Alex skill!
I run Squeezebox in three different rooms on Raspberry Pi's.
...somehow my account after three days is still not fully unlocked so i
can't write an PM - is there any other way to write you my data?
Thanks!
Tobias
meep wrote:
> Hi Tom
>
> No problem. If you don't have one already, set up an Amazon Developer
> account and PM me the email address you used. I'll then send you
> invites.
PM sent, thanks.
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EasyPeasy wrote:
> I'll test if you are looking for more. I run LMS on a Win8 box, 2
> radios, a Boom, and 1 Squeezeslave client.
>
> Tom
Hi Tom
No problem. If you don't have one already, set up an Amazon Developer
account and PM me the email address you used. I'll then send you
invites.
I'll test if you are looking for more. I run LMS on a Win8 box, 2
radios, a Boom, and 1 Squeezeslave client.
Tom
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I agree - It's a great plug-in for Alexa. Recommend you all get signed
up for testing!
Main system: Transporter - Bel Canto S300 - B 703
Headphone system: SBT - Schiit Magni 2 - Sennheiser HD 650
In the other rooms: a number of SBR's
In a storage box, somewhere in a cupboard: SB1, SB2
Happy to say that I was able to get everything installed today without
any issues and successfully paused and resumed play using voice commands
on my Echo Dot with the Alexa plugin in LMS. Looking forward to doing
some additional testing and helping further the development of this
amazing plugin.
Quoting meep (meep.7xz...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com):
>
> Hello thread watchers
>
> Alpha v0.2 has been released to the test group. I've also sent invites
> to people who have expressed interest recently. If you think you should
> have received an invite and have not, apologies, I missed you
Hello thread watchers
Alpha v0.2 has been released to the test group. I've also sent invites
to people who have expressed interest recently. If you think you should
have received an invite and have not, apologies, I missed you for some
reason. Please PM me here and I'll add you in.
Here's the
Starminder wrote:
> I'd definitely like to help as a software tester. Next step?
Hi
if you want to participate in the alpha tests, you need to sign up for
an Amazon developer account and pm me the email address you used.
for the forthcoming beta phase, I'll likely use the new Amazon skill
I'd definitely like to help as a software tester. Next step?
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For all the thread watchers, we moved to Alpha last week and quickly
went through 5x point versions as new testers came on board and found
various issues on various LMS versions. The more testing we do, the more
inclined I am to support newer LMS versions only but final decision on
that remains
slartibartfast wrote:
> Do I need to install SSL for this and if so how do I do it? This is on a
> raspberry Pi.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Hi
You don't -need- SSL for this to work. The plugin defaults to using
https for connecting to and sending data back to the cloud-based
Do I need to install SSL for this and if so how do I do it? This is on a
raspberry Pi.
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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Yes, I believe that this is how it should look in LMS (attached
screenshot). Don't mind to get my hands dirty to see it works... :)
I'll open an developer account with Amazon and send you a PM with the
email address. Thank you.
muntos wrote:
> Hi, I tried to read from the beginning this thread and I'm not sure if
> this plugin/skill combo would work on my configuration: I have a
> Logitech Media Server installed on an Ubuntu machine which also runs
> Squeezelite player for my USB DAC. So no hardware player. With this
>
Hi, I tried to read from the beginning this thread and I'm not sure if
this plugin/skill combo would work on my configuration: I have a
Logitech Media Server installed on an Ubuntu machine which also runs
Squeezelite player for my USB DAC. So no hardware player. With this
plugin I would be able
This weekend I hope to get v0.1.6 released to testers. This is a
significant step up as it now includes both an http proxy and MQTT as
options for communications between the skill and the LMS plugin. I've
alos set up a Repo for the plugin meaning installation and updating is
less command line
tmn103 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just came across your hab-tunes project and would be interested to test
> it.
>
> I've tried a couple of ways of achieving this so far (lordpengwin/muzak
> and through openhab) but not found one that works really well.
You'll need an Amazon developer account in order
ddewey wrote:
> Quoting meep (meep.7wqr9z (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com):
>
> >
> > An update for thread followers
> >
> > v0.1.5 was made available to testers today. The change list is pasted
> > below but the main focus of this release is the addition of MQTT
> >
Hi,
Just came across your hab-tunes project and would be interested to test
it.
I've tried a couple of ways of achieving this so far (lordpengwin/muzak
and through openhab) but not found one that works really well.
Quoting meep (meep.7wq...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com):
>
> An update for thread followers
>
> v0.1.5 was made available to testers today. The change list is pasted
> below but the main focus of this release is the addition of MQTT
> communications between the skill and plugin. This should
An update for thread followers
v0.1.5 was made available to testers today. The change list is pasted
below but the main focus of this release is the addition of MQTT
communications between the skill and plugin. This should allow the
reliance on open ports to be removed from the plugin.
epsully wrote:
> Anxiously awaiting the results of your project... whole-house Squeezebox
> system happy to test when the time comes.
>
> 6 x SB Radios (just added another)
> 3 x SB Booms
> 2 x SB Touch
> 1 x SB Transporter
Many thanks
Have you PM'd through an email address that you've
Anxiously awaiting the results of your project... whole-house Squeezebox
system happy to test when the time comes.
6 x SB Radios (just added another)
3 x SB Booms
2 x SB Touch
1 x SB Transporter
5 x SB Radio
3 x SB Boom
2 x SB Touch
1 x Transporter
Synology DS415+
fphredd wrote:
> Virtually all of my music is live concerts. The Album tags are set up
> as: -mm-dd AUD(or SBD or FM) then city state "-" venue. Can you tell
> me how this would need to be presented verbally to call a specific show?
>
> Thanks!
i think that would be a challenging setup for
Virtually all of my music is live concerts. The Album tags are set up
as: -mm-dd AUD(or SBD or FM) then city state "-" venue. Can you tell
me how this would need to be presented verbally to call a specific
show?
Thanks!
kllngtme wrote:
> I've been hitting refresh almost daily on this thread anxious for the
> release. Currently I have on/off functionality of my Squeezeboxes with
> my voice via ha-bridge and domoticz. I can't wait to be able to change
> music and volume with my voice though! Keep up the good
I've been hitting refresh almost daily on this thread anxious for the
release. Currently I have on/off functionality of my Squeezeboxes with
my voice via ha-bridge and domoticz. I can't wait to be able to change
music and volume with my voice though! Keep up the good work!
Will be keeping an eye on this.
Keep up the good work
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Great to see your efforts, well done on taking this on. Looking forward
to seeing things progress, if i can help in testing or alike let me know
(coder by profession).
Kind regards,
John
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Girth wrote:
> Meep have you released anything on this publicly yet? I dug around on
> your site but was only able to set up the subscription, no signs of the
> service or plugin... Are you still closed beta?
Hi Girth
To call the current stage beta is a tad optimistic, though excellent
Meep have you released anything on this publicly yet? I dug around on
your site but was only able to set up the subscription, no signs of the
service or plugin... Are you still closed beta?
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Still in the earliest of alpha's but version 0.1.4.1 is now available to
testers.
Full details on the project site;
http://www.hab-tunes.com/index.php/9-development/19-v0-1-4-now-in-testing
ALEXA LMS SKILL: http://www.hab-tunes.com | Twitter: '#habtunes'
Many thanks for that link.
I actually ended up re-writing the auth sections in PHP and it worked
first time.
Amazon eventually got back to me and I'm working with them to figure out
why it works in PHP but not in Node-Red on the same server.
ALEXA LMS SKILL: http://www.hab-tunes.com |
Hi meep,
I have no idea about your code, but I just followed this 'wiki page'
(https://wiki.fhem.de/wiki/Alexa-Fhem) to link my FHEM home automation
system to Alexa using OAuth, so I thought I'd throw this in here in case
you're trying something similar (it's in German, but the Amazon forms
look
A quick update for thread watchers...
I'v made a lot of progress on version 0.1.4 but am now stalled in
implementing account linking between the skill and user accounts. I've
posted details of the issue on amazon forums but have had next to zero
support there;
Hi meep,
I am really interested in your project. Having a developer account on
Amazon with "Max2Play" and an Echo available to play with :)
Already tried to control the Squeezeboxes with Homeassistant and Philips
HUE, but as the Squeezeboxes are only discovered as lights, the ON/OFF
commands do
ok, let me know when I can be of service.
-d
---
1 x Touch, 2 x Radio, 2 x software player, LMS 7.9.0
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daduke wrote:
> Hi meep,
>
> another potential tester. I even wrote an LMS plugin once ;)
> (https://daduke.org/linux/lmswefunk.html)
> I just got my echo dot and found your project - exactly what I want
> Alexa to do. Caveat: my Alexa speaks German. Do you see any way to teach
> your plugin
Hi meep,
another potential tester. I even wrote an LMS plugin once ;)
(https://daduke.org/linux/lmswefunk.html)
I just got my echo dot and found your project - exactly what I want
Alexa to do. Caveat: my Alexa speaks German. Do you see any way to teach
your plugin another language? If so, I'd be
Paul Webster wrote:
> FYI I saw a report today that Amazon Echo can now be configured to
> recognise "Computer" as a wake word.
> Doesn't' make any difference to the integration but might make some
> people more comfortable than shouting out Amazon/Echo/Alexa
Yep. The more they can add, the
FYI I saw a report today that Amazon Echo can now be configured to
recognise "Computer" as a wake word.
Doesn't' make any difference to the integration but might make some
people more comfortable than shouting out Amazon/Echo/Alexa
Paul Webster
http://dabdig.blogspot.com
oyvindo wrote:
> Hi, this is a fascinating project!
> I can't wait to see the first release :-)
>
> Have you tried testing on LMS running in a docker environment?
> I'm running LMS Version: 7.9.0 - '1484464959' (tel:1484464959) in Docker
> on a QNAP NAS.
> I have a few Duets, Classics and
Hi, this is a fascinating project!
I can't wait to see the first release :-)
Have you tried testing on LMS running in a docker environment?
I'm running LMS Version: 7.9.0 - 1484464959 in Docker on a QNAP NAS.
I have a few Duets, Classics and several ChromeCast (both the HDMI as
well as the
Hi Meep,
I'd love to assist with the project. I'm in the process of moving house
and have plans for multi-room audio that tie into my home automation.
I'm using OpenHAB 2 as the platform at the moment and want to use Alexa
to tie in the different components.
Rob
great job! thank you!
would like to support and test.
looking forward to
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Thanks
Transporter (Lounge)
Joggler Squeezeplay as Remote (Lounge)
Joggler Squeezeplay (Office)
Joggler Squeezeplay (Kitchen)
Joggler Squeezeplay (Conservatory)
Radio (Bedroom)
Radio (Garage)
LMS 7.8 on DIY Vortexbox (i5)
Squeeze
Hi,
I'm very interested at taking a part in testing an addon Alexa with LMS.
I'm very exited such a tusk and following thread has been started. Great
job.
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Here's a quick video some testers sent in from the current round of
testing (not!) :D:D:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAz_UvnUeuU
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I'm in the UK and I'd love to get involved with testing if you're still
looking for new people.
I have 3x Classics, 1x Radio and 1x Touch, plus occasionally use my iPad
via iPeng. I have two Echo dots (in rooms that have squeezeboxes). One
of the SBs is called "Cinema" which I don't think you
castalla wrote:
> Did you add my 'Slim Jim' to the list?
Slim Jim is on the list
The list is in my head right now but I'll be translating it to bits
soon
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meep wrote:
> Thanks for this. All suggestions greatly accepted and I'll throw it in
> the mnix when we get to crunch time.
>
> .
Did you add my 'Slim Jim' to the list?
Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS
UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony
Soundslike wrote:
> How about changing the activation word to my device or my room?
> then it would be "alexa play in my room "basement.""?
>
> This would get a more flow of words then squeeze box.
> This is just my thought.
>
>
> (BTW if you still need more testers I am still interested.)
How about changing the activation word to my device or my room?
then it would be "alexa play in my room "basement.""?
This would get a more flow of words then squeeze box.
This is just my thought.
(BTW if you still need more testers I am still interested.)
version 0.1.3 released to testers this evening. Fingers crossed.
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snoopy86 wrote:
> I think "squeeze box" is cool and we are all used to this word by now so
> why change it...
I agree it's probably the best we've got. Plus, it has the advantage of
being essentially one word but can be rendered as two to meet the
requirements.
However, possible reasons for
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