Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-27 Thread SamY


madpatrick wrote: 
> Once again I want to give my much appreciated compliments for making and
> improving the plugin all the time.
> This plugin has made using my squeezebox for the rest of the family even
> more fun and easier.
> Fortunately, people are still willing to give support and use their
> specific knowledge.
> Thanks again for developing this plugin

Thanks for the feedback, Patrick. All credit goes to Chris for "making"
the plugin and we share credit for "improving" it. :D 

I'm happy to hear that you are continuing to find the plugin useful and
particularly appreciate your willingness to assist with testing and
debugging new releases. Happy holidays and best wishes for 2023!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-27 Thread SamY


rttm wrote: 
> Hi!
> 
> what a great piece of software u wrote!!
> 
> actually i am asking for a possibility to make this also for available
> for my lyngdorf tdai 2170 amplifier.
> it is possible to interact with the amp via a serial server. the
> original lyngdorf (ios) app is using this connection.
> i'm aware of the 
> - hardware (lyngdorf tda1 2170 'steered' via  moxa 5150A serial server)
> - the codes lyndorf uses3956239563
> 
> is there any chance that your control plugin could also steer Lyngdorf
> Amps?
> 
> kindest regards
> Thomas / Austria
> 
> ps: i am a long time LMS user & have equipped players in each and every
> room; mostly hifiberry stuff; and an allo usb bridge sig as source for
> my living room (feeding in the Lyngdorf) .. the only system actually i
> cant 'turn on' remote

Hi, Thomas. Speaking on behalf of Chris and myself, thanks for the
compliment. As far as supporting the Lyngdorf amps, that would be an
interesting project for sure, probably best accomplished by cloning and
modifying the Denon/Marantz plugin. The command/request protocol looks
to be quite robust and, in many ways, simpler to program for, due in
large part to the less-is-more design philosophy of the manufacturer.

Personally, I would love to take this project on as a new LMS plugin.
However, I would require the hardware for use in development and
testing. If you have any "pull" with the manufacturer, feel free to use
it. My mailing address (USA) is available on demand.  :D

Take care and happy holidays!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-27 Thread rttm


Hi!

what a great piece of software u wrote!!

actually i am asking for a possibility to make this also for available
for my lyngdorf tdai 2170 amplifier.
it is possible to interact with the amp via a serial server. the
original lyngdorf (ios) app is using this connection.
i'm aware of the 
- hardware (lyngdorf tda1 2170 'steered' via  moxa 5150A serial server)
- the codes lyndorf uses3956239563

is there any chance that your control plugin could also steer Lyngdorf
Amps?

kindest regards
Thomas / Austria

ps: i am a long time LMS user & have equipped players in each and every
room; mostly hifiberry stuff; and an allo usb bridge sig as source for
my living room (feeding in the Lyngdorf) .. the only system actually i
cant 'turn on' remote


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-27 Thread madpatrick


Once again I want to give my much appreciated compliments for making and
improving the plugin all the time.
This plugin has made using my squeezebox for the rest of the family even
more fun and easier.
Fortunately, people are still willing to give support and use their
specific knowledge.
Thanks again for developing this plugin



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-26 Thread SamY


edwin2006 wrote: 
> @samY
> Is there a donation link we could add to
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113347-Register-your-appreciation
> as a thank you for keeping this plugin alive?

Thanks for the positive feedback, @edwin2006. Speaking for myself, posts
such as yours are all the thanks I need. As an aging retired software
engineer, sometimes I feel like it's the plugin that's keeping ME alive.
:D

I'm pretty sure @ChrisC feels the same way (at least about the thanks
part ;)).  For me personally though, just a mention on the link you
posted would be much appreciated if only to help spread the word about
the Denon/Marantz plugin which, in my admittedly biased opinion, is
under-utilized in the Squeezebox community given the widespread
popularity of these AVR's.

Thanks again for your kind words, and best wishes to you and all the
other plugin users in 2023.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-26 Thread edwin2006


@samY
Is there a donation link we could add to
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113347-Register-your-appreciation
as a thank you for keeping this plugin alive?



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(Study 2), few spare unit's (SB2, SB3, Boom, Touch)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-13 Thread SamY


oliverbg1 wrote: 
> I've found the problem.
> 
> One thing I missed is that the 3.5.4 version of ser2net I used to build
> my pcp extension does not have the famous uucp locking. So I'll try to
> build with an option that, in my mind, make the extension unstable. I
> downgrade to ser2net 3.5.1 with the -u option and It works perfectly! 
> I will now test the 3.5.4 without the uucp locking option.
> 
> Sorry for disturbing..
> 
> And so many thanks for this great plugin let me use my old Denon like a
> new one !

No problem, Olivier. Glad you got things working again. If you're ever
feeling adventurous, give the AVR Settings menu feature a try sometime.
It works great with just about all of the most popular client apps now
and adds another dimension to the plugin's functionality.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-13 Thread oliverbg1


I've found the problem.

One thing I missed is that the 3.5.4 version of ser2net I used to build
my pcp extension does not have the famous uucp locking. So I'll try to
build with an option that, in my mind, make the extension unstable. I
downgrade to ser2net 3.5.1 with the -u option and It works perfectly! 
I will now test the 3.5.4 without the uucp locking option.

Sorry for disturbing..

And so many thanks for this great plugin let me use my old Denon like a
new one !



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-13 Thread oliverbg1


Hello Sam,

Thanks for your reply. I'm thinking like you...
My ser2net bridge ip address is the one you can see in the logs.

My question is, do you have any known about any change in logitech media
server side which made your plugin works differently ? Can you confirm
that your plugin have the same behavior in lms 8.x ?

Many thanks Sam.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-11 Thread SamY


SamY wrote: 
> First of all, are the IP Address and port shown in the log correct for
> your ser2net bridge?
> 
> 192.168.1.100:2
> 
> 

By the way, I looked at the debug log you sent me before I made the
change to allow for specifying a port number in the AVR's IP Address and
the error messages were exactly what you are seeing now. I'm pretty
certain that your current problem has nothing to do with the plugin.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-11 Thread SamY


oliverbg1 wrote: 
> Hello all,
> 
> My config (Denon AVR-2311 with serial connector - pcp with ser2net
> extension) is down.
> 
> Recently I've do updates (on the denon plugin side, on the lms server
> side, and on the pcp side), and now I'm not able to have the plugin
> working.
> 
> I'll try everything like to get back to old plugin version '4.4.1', get
> back to old server version (not easy because I use nightly builds), get
> back to pcp 8.1 (but for this , dependencies are not the same...).
> 
> I'm crying of this because this plugin is so great and I don't
> understand what is the problem.
> 
> Does anyone have an idea ?
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Olivier

First of all, are the IP Address and port shown in the log correct for
your ser2net bridge?

192.168.1.100:2

There seems to be some kind of network or firewall problem as the log
shows the same EOF error on each of the two requests sent by the plugin.
What version of the plugin were you running previously? You say v4.4.1.
Did you mean v4.7.1, which was the last one prior to the current v4.7.2
version? If you would like to run a test with v4.7.1, that would be
simpler than going back to v4.4.1. Let me know.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-11 Thread oliverbg1


Hello all,

My config (Denon AVR-2311 with serial connector - pcp with ser2net
extension) is down.

Recently I've do updates (on the denon plugin side, on the lms server
side, and on the pcp side), and now I'm not able to have the plugin
working.
Here are the logs :

Code:


  Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck (341) *** DenonAvpControl: 
Quick Select: 1
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.3994] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(342) *** DenonAvpControl: Zone: 0
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.3995] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(343) *** DenonAvpControl: Speakers: 0
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.3997] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(344) *** DenonAvpControl: Audio Menu Enabled: 0
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.3998] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(345) *** DenonAvpControl: Multi-zone Enabled: 0
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4000] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(346) *** DenonAvpControl: AVR Type: 0
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4001] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(347) *** DenonAvpControl: IP Address: HTTP://192.168.1.100:2
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4003] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(348) *** DenonAvpControl: MAC Address: b8:27:eb:a4:af:0b
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4005] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(349) *** DenonAvpControl: Client ID: b8:27:eb:a4:af:0b
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4006] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(354) *** DenonAvpControl: Player output level is: Fixed
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4008] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(355) *** DenonAvpControl: Player model is: SqueezeLite
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4010] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(368) *** DenonAvpControl: Turning Pcp00-AMPLI off to sync with plugin
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4021] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(385) *** DenonAvpControl: added Client ID to clientid array
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4022] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(386) *** DenonAvpControl: Client ID table is: b8:27:eb:a4:af:0b 
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4024] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::newPlayerCheck 
(445) Number of registered plugin players = 1
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4031] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2174) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() p0: playlist
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4033] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2175) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() p1: addtracks
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4034] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2176) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() p2: 
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4037] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2190) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() Player: Pcp00-AMPLI
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4042] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2174) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() p0: power
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4044] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2175) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() p1: 
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4045] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2176) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() p2: 0
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4047] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2190) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() Player: Pcp00-AMPLI
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4048] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2198) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() Self-initiated command - 
bypassing 
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.4051] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::prefSetCallback 
(2128) *** DenonAvpControl: prefSetCallback() Player Pcp00-AMPLI is powered off
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.9149] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::getAvpModelInfo 
(2838) *** DenonAvpControl: getting AVR model string for device: 
HTTP://192.168.1.100:2
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.9152] 
Plugins::DenonAvpControl::DenonAvpComms::SendNetAvpGetModelInfo (734) Calling 
writemsg for model info query
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.9183] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::DenonAvpComms::writemsg 
(778) Sent AVR command request: SYMO
  [22-12-11 19:19:32.9242] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::DenonAvpComms::_read (947) 
read routine called
  [22-12-11 19:19:33.0494] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::DenonAvpComms::_read (953) 
Error: read routine returned 0 bytes
  [22-12-11 19:19:33.0496] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::DenonAvpComms::_error 
(789) error routine called
  [22-12-11 19:19:33.0497] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::DenonAvpComms::_error 
(796) error connecting to AVR: error=End of file, request=SYMO
  [22-12-11 19:21:41.3832] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2174) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() p0: power
  [22-12-11 19:21:41.3834] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2175) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() p1: 
  [22-12-11 19:21:41.3837] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2176) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() p2: 1
  [22-12-11 19:21:41.3839] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2190) *** 

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-09 Thread SamY


Changes/enhancements:


- Add support for *Orange Squeeze* and *Open Squeeze* client apps in
  the AVR Settings menus. The list of client apps supporting the menus
  now include: Material Skin, Squeezer, iPeng, Squeeze Ctrl,
  Squeezelite-X (via Material Skin), Orange Squeeze and Open Squeeze.
- Improve the process of pausing and resuming playback while powering
  on the AVR so as to reduce the likelihood of missing the first few
  seconds of playback.
- No longer restart the current track when switching to the AVR player
  during the process of transferring the queue or syncing with another
  player.
- Extend the functionality of the AVR Settings menus so they can still
  be used even after the player has been stopped, as long as the AVR is
  still powered on, e.g. after switching the AVR to another input.
- Various bug fixes and optimizations.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-05 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> No problem, David. Glad you are enjoying the multi-zone functionality.
> Take care.
> 
> EDIT:  I just looked at the debug log and it appears that the AVR power
> off is actually being initiated from the plugin in response to a player
> "power off" command from LMS approximately 31 minutes after it is turned
> on. I would check to make sure that there is not a sleep timer set for
> the SB Touch in the player settings or a plugin (e.g. "PowerSave") that
> might automatically shut off the player after some interval of time. If
> the problem keeps happening after you disable the AVR's Auto Standby for
> Zone 2 and check these other possibilities, let me know. Again though,
> there is nothing in the plugin itself that would trigger the player
> shutting off.

Spot on! It was the PowerSave plugin that was the issue, set to "always"
(default?) rather than "on stop" etc. I had installed it to try it out
int the last few weeks as it was discussed briefly here, and immediately
forgot I had done so, apologies for that.

Yes, am enjoying the multi-zone functionality, great job!

Cheers, David



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Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
*Alfresco*Z2 > Krix Tropix/Klipsch SW
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-05 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> That is probably it, I had the system on yesterday for much longer than
> I have for months (due to the weather here finally being worthy of
> outdoor enjoyment!) and during that time I wandered away from it but
> left it running, which is unusual behaviour for me, so I wasn't changing
> tracks or volume as I usually would. Today was I was simulating for log
> files I left it playing at a low volume without fiddling, again unusual.
> Thanks for your reply on this, I knew that zone one didn't time out when
> being used so assumed the same for Z2 - so much for assumptions!
> 
> I will of course be mindful of it in future.
> 
> Cheers, David

No problem, David. Glad you are enjoying the multi-zone functionality.
Take care.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-04 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> I found the following in a Denon AVR forum post. If it applies to your
> model, it could explain what you are seeing and the solution would be,
> as you said, to turn off Auto Standby for Zone 2.
> 
> "The Denon manual says that in Main Zone, the Auto Standby fuction will
> switch the receiver to standby when, during the selected time, no video
> or audio signal is present.
> _There's_also_a_Zone2,_where_Auto_Standby_is_not_triggered_by_absence_of_signal,_but_by_absence_of_operation_(volume_control_and_such)._"

That is probably it, I had the system on yesterday for much longer than
I have for months (due to the weather here finally being worthy of
outdoor enjoyment!) and during that time I wandered away from it but
left it running, which is unusual behaviour for me, so I wasn't changing
tracks or volume as I usually would. Today was I was simulating for log
files I left it playing at a low volume without fiddling, again unusual.
Thanks for your reply on this, I knew that zone one didn't time out when
being used so assumed the same for Z2 - so much for assumptions!

I will of course be mindful of it in future.

Cheers, David



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*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
*Alfresco*Z2 > Krix Tropix/Klipsch SW
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-04 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Set to 60 minutes, still turned off and play halted. Log attached. 
> 
> Most likely solution will be to turn the amp time-out off in amp
> settings, but I haven't seen the behaviour previously. 
> 

I found the following in a Denon AVR forum post. If it applies to your
model, it could explain what you are seeing and the solution would be,
as you said, to turn off Auto Standby for Zone 2.

"The Denon manual says that in Main Zone, the Auto Standby fuction will
switch the receiver to standby when, during the selected time, no video
or audio signal is present.
_There's_also_a_Zone2,_where_Auto_Standby_is_not_triggered_by_absence_of_signal,_but_by_absence_of_operation_(volume_control_and_such)._"



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-04 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> I'll take a look at the log but, in the meantime, could you try changing
> the Auto Standby value to 1 hour and seeing if that changes when the
> Zone shuts off? I can't think of anything in the plugin that would cause
> the behavior.

Set to 60 minutes, still turned off and play halted. Log attached. 

39307

Most likely solution will be to turn the amp time-out off in amp
settings, but I haven't seen the behaviour previously. 

Cheers, David


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-04 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> I'll take a look at the log but, in the meantime, could you try changing
> the Auto Standby value to 1 hour and seeing if that changes when the
> Zone shuts off? I can't think of anything in the plugin that would cause
> the behavior.

Will reset it now and report the effect. 

Cheers, David



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-04 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Hi Sam. I have noticed that after about a half hour of play the Denon
> amp switched off and music play is paused when using Z2. Controlling via
> MS on android. If Z1 is also on then Z2 shuts off and Z1 remains on.
> Touching PLAY on the MS interface turns the amp back on and it reverts
> to my preset volume. I do have a 30 minute AUTO STANDBY set generally
> but it hasn't caused a shutdown while playing music Z2 prior to the
> recent plugin revisions. Though I would start with the plugin to find
> any issues so have attached a log in which the issue occurs twice, if
> you wouldn't mind looking at it for me to see if it is something the
> plugin is doing, or not doing!
> 

I'll take a look at the log but, in the meantime, could you try changing
the Auto Standby value to 1 hour and seeing if that changes when the
Zone shuts off? I can't think of anything in the plugin that would cause
the behavior.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-04 Thread DavidBulluss


Hi Sam. I have noticed that after about a half hour of play the Denon
amp switched off and music play is paused when using Z2. Controlling via
MS on android. If Z1 is also on then Z2 shuts off and Z1 remains on.
Touching PLAY on the MS interface turns the amp back on and it reverts
to my preset volume. I do have a 30 minute AUTO STANDBY set generally
but it hasn't caused a shutdown while playing music Z2 prior to the
recent plugin revisions. Though I would start with the plugin to find
any issues so have attached a log in which the issue occurs twice, if
you wouldn't mind looking at it for me to see if it is something the
plugin is doing, or not doing!

39306

Cheers, David


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-01 Thread mctr


SamY wrote: 
> Everything looks fine from the Denon plugin's point of view. The power
> on and off commands were handled normally, as you noted, and it is
> ignoring all of the volume control callback notifications, as it should
> when running with the player set to variable volume output. There are,
> however, an unusually large number of playlist control notifications
> such as "play", "open", "jump", "newsong", "stop", "index", etc., all
> coming in a seemingly continuous stream --- much more activity than I
> would expect from an ordinary listening session. I don't know if you
> were generating the activity manually via the client app or if they were
> coming from the AP bridge plugin. While none of these callback
> notifications cause any action to be taken by the plugin, they do cause
> some network and cpu overhead that could affect performance and possibly
> result in "wonky" playback. Maybe you could elaborate on what you
> observed in that respect. The good news is that the looping error
> condition is no longer an issue and the plugin is behaving as expected
> overall. I suspect that the wonky playback might result from conflicting
> commands being generated by the two plugins. For example, when the Denon
> plugin sees an LMS "play" command while it is in the process of powering
> on the AVR, it generates a "pause" command until the AVR is powered on
> completely, at which time it sends a "play" command. This is done in
> order to make sure that the playback doesn't start until the AVR is
> ready, thus avoiding cutting off the beginning of the song. The AP
> bridge plugin probably also issues its own player commands, with both
> plugins assuming that they are in charge.
> 
> Let me know if you want to pursue this any further but I'm not sure it's
> worth the effort and the overhead incurred by the Denon plugin just to
> get the AVR to turn off automatically after AP playback. You could
> always set the AVR's auto standby timeout to the minimum value (10
> minutes?) to ensure that it does get turned off eventually.

Yeah, I imagine it is something like that causing the issue as without
the AVR plugin I never had any issues with AP bridge playback. I don't
think it is worth any further investigation we can just stop here and I
will find some other way. I guess I do have a bunch of extra Pis laying
around if it ends up annoying me that much. Thanks as always for the
insight



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-01 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> Here's my run, seemed fine as far as off and on but the playback was
> wonky. Don't know if that had to do with the plugin or the AP bridge
> plugin - had an issue with that this afternoon not recognizing my
> players and had to sort that out too.
> 
> https://pastebin.com/cYSsbhBT

Everything looks fine from the Denon plugin's point of view. The power
on and off commands were handled normally, as you noted, and it is
ignoring all of the volume control callback notifications, as it should
when running with the player set to variable volume output. There are,
however, an unusually large number of playlist control notifications
such as "play", "open", "jump", "newsong", "stop", "index", etc., all
coming in a seemingly continuous stream --- much more activity than I
would expect from an ordinary listening session. I don't know if you
were generating the activity manually via the client app or if they were
coming from the AP bridge plugin. While none of these callback
notifications cause any action to be taken by the plugin, they do cause
some network and cpu overhead that could affect performance and possibly
result in "wonky" playback. Maybe you could elaborate on what you
observed in that respect. The good news is that the looping error
condition is no longer an issue and the plugin is behaving as expected
overall. I suspect that the wonky playback might result from conflicting
commands being generated by the two plugins. For example, when the Denon
plugin sees an LMS "play" command while it is in the process of powering
on the AVR, it generates a "pause" command until the AVR is powered on
completely, at which time it sends a "play" command. This is done in
order to make sure that the playback doesn't start until the AVR is
ready, thus avoiding cutting off the beginning of the song. The AP
bridge plugin probably also issues its own player commands, with both
plugins assuming that they are in charge.

Let me know if you want to pursue this any further but I'm not sure it's
worth the effort and the overhead incurred by the Denon plugin just to
get the AVR to turn off automatically after AP playback. You could
always set the AVR's auto standby timeout to the minimum value (10
minutes?) to ensure that it does get turned off eventually.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-12-01 Thread mctr


SamY wrote: 
> The debug log shows that you are right about crashing (actually looping)
> your LMS. Unfortunately, the origin of the problem is before the start
> of the log file. I would like you to try the scenario again using the
> attached version of plugin.pm, which should provide additional info and
> (hopefully) prevent the loop condition.  As in past testing, you must
> rename the attached plugin.pm.txt to plugin.pm, replace the version in
> the plugin directory and restart LMS. I would also like you to remove
> the existing server.log file before beginning the test. Whatever the
> results, please post the entire log file if possible. Thanks.

Here's my run, seemed fine as far as off and on but the playback was
wonky. Don't know if that had to do with the plugin or the AP bridge
plugin - had an issue with that this afternoon not recognizing my
players and had to sort that out too.

https://pastebin.com/cYSsbhBT



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-27 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> I've tried this and I think it crashed my LMS
> 
> QS/Input left blank and Volume set to controls outputs (did not change
> this from before)
> 
> 5k lines attached

The debug log shows that you are right about crashing (actually looping)
your LMS. Unfortunately, the origin of the problem is before the start
of the log file. I would like you to try the scenario again using the
attached version of plugin.pm, which should provide additional info and
(hopefully) prevent the loop condition.  As in past testing, you must
rename the attached plugin.pm.txt to plugin.pm, replace the version in
the plugin directory and restart LMS. I would also like you to remove
the existing server.log file before beginning the test. Whatever the
results, please post the entire log file if possible. Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-27 Thread mctr


SamY wrote: 
> It might be possible to configure the plugin settings in such a way that
> it does what you want. If not, I can look at rigging something in the
> code for the next release, which is due to be published soon. When you
> speak of zones flickering on and off when volume adjusting Zone 3, I'm
> assuming that you have set up both plugins to control Zone 3 and they
> are each sending competing volume commands to the Denon, one via Telnet
> and the other via whatever protocol Airplay uses. Other than that, are
> you able to power off the AVR via the Denon plugin? It might be
> interesting to see a debug log of what is going on. In the meantime, if
> you configure the LMS audio "Volume Control" setting for the associated
> player to "Volume controls adjust outputs" instead of "Fixed at 100%",
> the plugin will not send volume or muting commands to the AVR at all,
> which is what you want. You would also want to leave the Quick Select /
> Input Source blank, assuming that is all set up with the Airplay bridge.
> With that configuration, the only commands sent to the AVR by the plugin
> should be Power On and Off. The extra Power On command shouldn't cause
> any problems. Give it a try and see how it goes.

I've tried this and I think it crashed my LMS

QS/Input left blank and Volume set to controls outputs (did not change
this from before)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-26 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> Any way to have this plugin work on players connected via AirPlay
> bridge? Basically would just need to have power off functionality as the
> AVR turns on automatically if AirPlay'd to (at least all of mine do) and
> volume is controlled by the volume slider by default. I sometimes use
> one of my AVRs this way and would like it to turn off like the rest of
> them when I hit the power off button. Without it I have to use the
> remote control or rely on auto-off.
> 
> Enabling the plugin as-is on an airplay bridge connected AVR causes some
> wacky behavior with volume adjusting Zone 3 and the AVR (Denon X6300H)
> flickering the zones on and off. Obviously it is not meant for this but
> I gave it a shot.

It might be possible to configure the plugin settings in such a way that
it does what you want. If not, I can look at rigging something in the
code for the next release, which is due to be published soon. When you
speak of zones flickering on and off when volume adjusting Zone 3, I'm
assuming that you have set up both plugins to control Zone 3 and they
are sending conflicting commands to the Denon, one via Telnet and the
other via whatever protocol Airplay uses. Other than that, are you able
to power off the AVR via the Denon plugin? It might be interesting to
see a debug log of what is going on. In the meantime, if you configure
the LMS audio "Volume Control" setting for the associated player to
"Volume controls adjust outputs" instead of "Fixed at 100%", the plugin
will not send volume or muting commands to the AVR at all, which is what
you want. You would also want to leave the Quick Select / Input Source
blank, assuming that is all set up with the Airplay bridge. With that
configuration, the only commands sent to the AVR by the plugin should be
Power On and Off. The extra Power On command shouldn't cause any
problems. Give it a try and see how it goes



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-26 Thread mctr


Any way to have this plugin work on players connected via AirPlay
bridge? Basically would just need to have power off functionality as the
AVR turns on automatically if AirPlay'd to (at least all of mine do) and
volume is controlled by the volume slider by default. I sometimes use
one of my AVRs this way and would like it to turn off like the rest of
them when I hit the power off button. Without it I have to use the
remote control or rely on auto-off.

Enabling the plugin as-is on an airplay bridge connected AVR causes some
wacky behavior with volume adjusting Zone 3 and the AVR (Denon X6300H)
flickering the zones on and off. Obviously it is not meant for this but
I gave it a shot.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-10 Thread Fahzz


SamY wrote: 
> Go to the LMS Settings->Player menu for the player(s) you want to use it
> with and select the -*DENON AVP/AVR Control*- dropdown menu to set the
> plugin options. See the 'Plugin Wiki'
> (https://github.com/aesculus/denonavpcontrol/wiki) link at the bottom of
> the settings menu for detailed setup and usage instructions. If you have
> any further questions or problems, this is the place to post them.

Thanks- found it under the extra settings for the player.

Denon website has AVR 3700 for $1199 new $999 for refurb is anybody is
looking to make a move.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-10 Thread SamY


Fahzz wrote: 
> I downloaded this plugin but how do I enable it or find the settings?
> Thanks.

Go to the LMS Settings->Player menu for the player(s) you want to use it
with and select the -*DENON AVP/AVR Control*- dropdown menu to set the
plugin options. See the 'Plugin Wiki'
(https://github.com/aesculus/denonavpcontrol/wiki) link at the bottom of
the settings menu for detailed setup and usage instructions. If you have
any further questions or problems, this is the place to post them.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-10 Thread Fahzz


I downloaded this plugin but how do I enable it or find the settings?
Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-09 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> I took your lead and set increments to 1% and it is much better thanks.
> By the way, I am still persevering with using Squeeze-CTRL and have
> noticed that the up/down swipe on the now playing screen does affect the
> volume but in large jumps from which it sometimes jumps back quickly to
> where it was. Just mentioning out of interest.
> 

Yeah. I see the same behavior, which I believe is a function of the app
itself. The MS volume slider is much more stable and responsive. You
might want to try changing the increment value setting to 1% there too.
Another setting to experiment with is the plugin's Max Volume setting,
which defaults to -10 (70dB). You can change it on the fly without
restarting LMS to see if it helps. Beyond that, you'd have to pursue it
with the Squeeze Ctrl app developer.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-09 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> Your debug log looks fine, David. The network response time between the
> plugin (LMS) and the AVR seems to be very good also. I would suspect a
> response lag between MS and LMS, but I have no means of verifying that
> from the log file. Is the MS client running on your phone or on some
> other device? You might want to experiment with different volume
> increments. Mine is currently set to 1%, which yields very smooth volume
> changes on my system. Another thing to play around with is how you slide
> your finger up/down on the screen. I find that it works better for me
> with a quick flicking motion, like scrolling through a document.
> Otherwise, there's always the hardware buttons.

I took your lead and set increments to 1% and it is much better thanks.
By the way, I am still persevering with using Squeeze-CTRL and have
noticed that the up/down swipe on the now playing screen does affect the
volume but in large jumps from which it sometimes jumps back quickly to
where it was. Just mentioning out of interest.

Cheers, David.



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*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-09 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Hi Sam, I have been noticing the slide up/down volume interface when
> using MS very jumpy and sometimes non-responsive then it jumps to a
> different volume. I have increments set at 2%, could possibly just be
> lag in my system? All while using Denon receiver. Have attached a debug
> in case you feel like taking a look.
> 

Your debug log looks fine, David. The network response time between the
plugin (LMS) and the AVR seems to be very good also. I would suspect a
response lag between MS and LMS, but I have no means of verifying that
from the log file. Is the MS client running on your phone or on some
other device? You might want to experiment with different volume
increments. Mine is currently set to 1%, which yields very smooth volume
changes on my system. Another thing to play around with is how you slide
your finger up/down on the screen. I find that it works better for me
with a quick flicking motion, like scrolling through a document.
Otherwise, there's always the hardware buttons.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-08 Thread DavidBulluss


Hi Sam, I have been noticing the slide up/down volume interface when
using MS very jumpy and sometimes non-responsive then it jumps to a
different volume. I have increments set at 2%, could possibly just be
lag in my system? All while using Denon receiver. Have attached a debug
in case you feel like taking a look.

Regards, David.39053


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*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
*Alfresco*Z2 > Krix Tropix/Klipsch SW
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-07 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> And... it works!! Just tried it out and, after pausing the player and
> waiting 15 minutes (value used for testing purposes), it turned off the
> player, thus triggering the Denon plugin to power off the AVR. This is
> really a nice feature because the Denon plugin will only power off the
> AVR if the input source is still set to the one associated with the LMS
> player. Therefore if, in the meantime, the input had been switched to
> TV, for example, the AVR would not be turned off, thus avoiding a
> possible family crisis. 
> ()

Thanks for trying it out, I have installed it but haven't yet had a
chance to give it a run. I had never given it much thought when I have
seen it in the list but it will be very useful at my end apart. Some
mornings I find my SBT units have turned themselves on during the night,
luckily I do not have them set to auto-play! Not sure what causes them
to turn on as it is always both of them and it does not relate to power
outages, especially having household battery back-up. Now hopefully if
they turn on randomly they will power down after the preset period.
Funny story, years ago I did have them on auto-play and I was overseas
at the time when they turned on, but they also turned on at near full
volume, much to the neighbour's annoyance and amusement. Luckily, after
they contacted me I was able to control the system remotely and turn it
off.

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*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-07 Thread SamY


SamY wrote: 
> Brilliant idea! I might try that plugin myself. It should work even
> without the auto standby AVR feature since turning off the player would
> automatically trigger the plugin to power off the AVR.

And... it works!! Just tried it out and, after pausing the player and
waiting 15 minutes (value used for testing purposes), it turned off the
player, thus triggering the Denon plugin to power off the AVR. This is
really a nice feature because the Denon plugin will only power off the
AVR if the input source is still set to the one associated with the LMS
player. Therefore if, in the meantime, the input had been switched to
TV, for example, the AVR would not be turned off, thus avoiding a
possible family crisis. 
()



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-07 Thread SamY

Sportswagoneer wrote: 
> Thanks for your reply!
> I understand that use-case! Would make for a low WAF if the AVR just
> switched back on again!
> 
> I’ve downloaded the “power save” plugin and enabled it on the Touch
> after 60 minutes of inactivity. That should keep the player and the AVR
> pretty much synced in on/off state, making it easy to reliably turn on
> house-wide playback from iPeng.

Brilliant idea! I might try that plugin myself. It should work even
without the auto standby AVR feature since turning off the player would
automatically trigger the plugin to power off the AVR.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-07 Thread Sportswagoneer

SamY wrote: 
> Auto standby is an 'Eco' power saving option on newer AVR's that my old
> Denon doesn't have. It can be set to time intervals up to 60 mins or
> disabled. When it is triggered, it simply powers off the AVR the same as
> if you had turned it off manually. The plugin does no periodic polling
> of the AVR to check its status and is unaware that it has been powered
> off. It only reacts to LMS player commands and assumes that, once it has
> powered the AVR on, it is in control. Look at it this way. If you had
> intentionally turned the AVR off from the front panel, would you want
> the LMS player, which could be in another room, to immediately turn it
> back on because it is still playing? Probably not.
> 
> So the solution to your problem would be to disable the AVR's Auto
> standby mode or, when the situation occurs, turn the LMS player off and
> back on or, alternatively, use the client app's "Denon/Marantz AVR
> settings" menu to power cycle the AVR without affecting the player at
> all.

Thanks for your reply!
I understand that use-case! Would make for a low WAF if the AVR just
switched back on again!

I’ve downloaded the “power save” plugin and enabled it on the Touch
after 60 minutes of inactivity. That should keep the player and the AVR
pretty much synced in on/off state, making it easy to reliably turn on
house-wide playback from iPeng.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-07 Thread SamY

Sportswagoneer wrote: 
> Hi again.
> 
> Not a big deal - but IÂ’ve noticed that after an intermittent pause in
> the music (>60min), the AVR will automatically enter power-save standby
> while the LMS player (touch) will remain turned on. The player will then
> happily commence “playing” without turning on the AVR. 
> 
> Since the plug-in is otherwise good at reading the AVR status - I would
> have expected it to turn the AVR back on in this scenario?

Auto standby is an 'Eco' power saving option on newer AVR's that my old
Denon doesn't have. It can be set to time intervals up to 60 mins or
disabled. When it is triggered, it simply powers off the AVR the same as
if you had turned it off manually. The plugin does no periodic polling
of the AVR to check its status and is unaware that it has been powered
off. It only reacts to LMS player commands and assumes that, once it has
powered the AVR on, it is in control. Look at it this way. If you had
intentionally turned the AVR off from the front panel, would you want
the LMS player, which could be in another room, to immediately turn it
back on because it is still playing? Probably not.

So the solution to your problem would be to disable the AVR's Auto
standby mode or, when the situation occurs, turn the LMS player off and
back on or, alternatively, use the client app's "Denon/Marantz AVR
settings" menu to power cycle the AVR without affecting the player at
all.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-07 Thread Sportswagoneer

Hi again.

Not a big deal - but IÂ’ve noticed that after an intermittent pause in
the music (>60min), the AVR will automatically enter power-save standby
while the LMS player (touch) will remain turned on. The player will then
happily commence “playing” without turning on the AVR. 

Since the plug-in is otherwise good at reading the AVR status - I would
have expected it to turn the AVR back on in this scenario?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-03 Thread SamY


This release contains a critical bug fix and should be installed ASAP

The changes are:


- Close a timing window that can cause the plugin to enter a looping
  error condition when powering a player off. This problem is most
  likely to occur when the player's "Power On Resume" LMS Audio menu
  setting is set to either of the "Pause at power off" options and can
  result in the LMS host machine becoming unresponsive.
  
  
- Add support for the Marantz M-DAX audio restorer modes in the Audio
  Settings menu.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-02 Thread mctr


SamY wrote: 
> Thanks. I actually figured out where the "Power off"/"Pause" sequence is
> being generated and it has nothing to do with the client app. It happens
> when the "Power On Resume" option in the player Audio settings is set to
> either of the "Pause at Power Off" selections. While one would logically
> think this would result in a Pause followed by the Power Off, they
> actually are generated in the reverse order, which is where the
> confusion comes from. As this is a fairly common player setup option
> with serious consequences for plugin users, a new plugin version,
> v4.7.1, will be published in the next day or so to fix the problem,
> along with providing menu support for the Marantz "M-DAX" audio restorer
> modes.

You are on top of it my friend, cheers



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-02 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> Material skin on the web interface

Thanks. I actually figured out where the "Power off"/"Pause" sequence is
being generated and it has nothing to do with the client app. It happens
when the "Power On Resume" option in the player Audio settings is set to
either of the "Pause at Power Off" selections. While one would logically
think this would result in a Pause followed by the Power Off, they
actually are generated in the reverse order, which is where the
confusion comes from. As this is a fairly common player setup option
with serious consequences for plugin users, a new plugin version,
v4.7.1, will be published in the next day or so to fix the problem,
along with providing menu support for the Marantz "M-DAX" audio restorer
modes.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-02 Thread mctr


SamY wrote: 
> One more question. What client are you using to control the Squeezelite
> player under Moode?

Material skin on the web interface



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-02 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> Quick runthrough - power on by playing, mdax cycle through settings and
> back to off, turn off while playing
> 
> https://pastebin.com/t6UWisaV

Looks good. Thanks again for your help.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-02 Thread mctr


SamY wrote: 
> I discovered an additional problem in your debug log, @mctr. Apparently,
> there is another difference between the Denon and Marantz telnet command
> protocols that I wasn't aware of. What Denon calls the Audio Restorer
> function (command "PSRSTR"), Marantz calls M-DAX (command "PSMDAX"). The
> result is that the audio settings menus are not being fully populated
> due to timeouts on the "PSRSTR" command. I have coded a fix but can't
> fully test it without a Marantz AVR. If you don't mind, I would like you
> to copy the attached two files to your plugin directory, replacing the
> ones currently there. Neither file should be renamed. Copy them as is.
> After copying them, please restart LMS, turn on debug logging for the
> plugin and do some testing that involves powering on the player, going
> into the audio settings menu and changing the Audio Restorer (M-DAX)
> setting (and changing it back if you like) and then turning off the
> player. I am assuming that you have set the AVR type in the plugin's
> player setup menu to "Marantz AVR". If not, please do so before
> testing.
> 
> Thanks for your help. I'm sure the other Marantz users thank you too. :)

Quick runthrough - power on by playing, mdax cycle through settings and
back to off, turn off while playing

https://pastebin.com/t6UWisaV



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-02 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> Yeah, you probably did, I think I just forgot where to look. This one
> looks like it's working. Thanks for the fix!

I discovered an additional problem in your debug log, @mctr. Apparently,
there is another difference between the Denon and Marantz telnet command
protocols that I wasn't aware of. What Denon calls the Audio Restorer
function (command "PSRSTR"), Marantz calls M-DAX (command "PSMDAX"). The
result is that the audio settings menus are not being fully populated
due to timeouts on the "PSRSTR" command. I have coded a fix but can't
fully test it without a Marantz AVR. If you don't mind, I would like you
to copy the attached two files to your plugin directory, replacing the
ones currently there. Neither file should be renamed. Copy them as is.
After copying them, please restart LMS, turn on debug logging for the
plugin and do some testing that involves powering on the player, going
into the audio settings menu and changing the Audio Restorer (M-DAX)
setting (and changing it back if you like) and then turning off the
player. I am assuming that you have set the AVR type in the plugin's
player setup menu to "Marantz AVR". If not, please do so before
testing.

Thanks for your help. I'm sure the other Marantz users thank you too. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-01 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> Yeah, you probably did, I think I just forgot where to look. This one
> looks like it's working. Thanks for the fix!

One more question. What client are you using to control the Squeezelite
player under Moode? Does Moode provide its own player UI or do you use a
client app such as Squeezer or iPeng? I'm curious as to where the
unusual "power off" / "pause" command combination is being generated.
Although there's nothing technically "illegal" about it, I've never seen
it before and it actually revealed what I believe to be a longstanding
timing vulnerability in the "power off" logic that's now been fixed
thanks to your help.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-01 Thread mctr


SamY wrote: 
> Please replace Plugin.pm with the attached one (after renaming), which I
> am confident will fix your problem. Again, my apologies.  :(

Yeah, you probably did, I think I just forgot where to look. This one
looks like it's working. Thanks for the fix!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-01 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> I feel like this should be obvious but which folder is it - Running LMS
> on windows - I don't see DenonAVPcontrol under
> Squeezebox/server/slim/plugin/
> Obviously the plugin works and is installed
> 
> edit: got it :P
> 
> Player is squeezelite v1.9.8-1317 running under Moode audio on Raspi
> 3B+
> 
> edit 2: same error, have to run will get a log when I can

Sorry I didn't give more specific instructions. It's not obvious at all.
I mistakenly thought I had worked with you on debugging a problem at
this level before. As you probably found out, you can find the plugin
directories in the LMS Settings->Information page. On a "vanilla"
Windows install, it should be:  
Code:

C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins
  


In response to your getting the same error, I double-checked my change
and found a typo that, unfortunately, didn't result in a runtime error
in my testing.

Please replace Plugin.pm with the attached one (after renaming), which I
am confident will fix your problem. Again, my apologies.  :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-01 Thread mctr


SamY wrote: 
> Thanks for the doc. I have located the problem, which is due to a timing
> window in the power off logic and only happens if a player command (such
> as 'pause') is received while the plugin is in the process of powering
> off the AVR. In your case, the player is sending a 'power off' command
> followed immediately by a 'pause' command when powering off if the
> player is not currently paused, something my Squeezelite-based players
> do not do. I know you probably told me before, but what player hardware
> or software are you using?
> 
> Attached is a new version of Plugin.pm, renamed to Plugin.pm.txt. Please
> copy it into your plugin directory after renaming it to Plugin.pm,
> replacing the old version, restart LMS and retry your test scenario. I
> apologize for the inconvenience and, if this fixes your problem, I will
> publish a new plugin version with the fix ASAP.

I feel like this should be obvious but which folder is it - Running LMS
on windows - I don't see DenonAVPcontrol under
Squeezebox/server/slim/plugin/
Obviously the plugin works and is installed

Player is squeezelite v1.9.8-1317 running under Moode audio on Raspi 3B+



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-11-01 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> Here you are. Powered on, start playing, powered off while playing,
> error
> 
> This is a paste of powering off AFTER pausing -
> https://pastebin.com/KNsdSn3a
> Debug logging was turned on after powering on the player, so theres a
> chunk missing before line 11, but it is just powering on the player

Thanks for the doc. I have located the problem, which is due to a timing
window in the power off logic and only happens if a player command (such
as 'pause') is received while the plugin is in the process of powering
off the AVR. In your case, the player is sending a 'power off' command
followed immediately by a 'pause' command when powering off if the
player is not currently paused, something my Squeezelite-based players
do not do. I know you probably told me before, but what player hardware
or software are you using?

Attached is a new version of Plugin.pm, renamed to Plugin.pm.txt. Please
copy it into your plugin directory after renaming it to Plugin.pm,
replacing the old version, restart LMS and retry your test scenario. I
apologize for the inconvenience and, if this fixes your problem, I will
publish a new plugin version with the fix ASAP.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-31 Thread mctr


SamY wrote: 
> I need you to recreate the condition with debug logging turned on for
> the plugin as I can't see what is triggering the problem and can't get
> it to happen on my Windows LMS server. The log entries will give me
> context for what is going on with the plugin when the error occurs. Does
> it happen every time you power off the Squeezelite player while it is
> playing? It really shouldn't make any difference that I can think of
> whether it is playing or not unless it is something specific to Marantz
> AVR's.

Here you are. Powered on, start playing, powered off while playing,
error

This is a paste of powering off AFTER pausing -
https://pastebin.com/KNsdSn3a
Debug logging was turned on after powering on the player, so theres a
chunk missing before line 11, but it is just powering on the player


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-31 Thread DavidBulluss


mctr wrote: 
> Here's a strange error I'm getting. Seems to happen when I power off my
> Squeezelite and thus Marantz AVR while something is playing. As far as I
> can tell if I stop playing first, it doesn't happen.. Errors starting at
> line 43 and repeats endlessly, I am having to kill the processes and
> restart LMS or it basically doesn't work anymore.

Sam, this problem also occurred one time while I was using V4.7 release
yesterday, but because I couldn't replicate the conditions that caused
the issue I was going to wait for it to happen again to report it. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-31 Thread SamY


mctr wrote: 
> Here's a strange error I'm getting. Seems to happen when I power off my
> Squeezelite and thus Marantz AVR while something is playing. As far as I
> can tell if I stop playing first, it doesn't happen.. Errors starting at
> line 43 and repeats endlessly, I am having to kill the processes and
> restart LMS or it basically doesn't work anymore.

I need you to recreate the condition with debug logging turned on for
the plugin as I can't see what is triggering the problem and can't get
it to happen on my Windows LMS server. The log entries will give me
context for what is going on with the plugin when the error occurs. Does
it happen every time you power off the Squeezelite player while it is
playing? It really shouldn't make any difference that I can think of
whether it is playing or not unless it is something specific to Marantz
AVR's.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-31 Thread mctr


Here's a strange error I'm getting. Seems to happen when I power off my
Squeezelite and thus Marantz AVR while something is playing. As far as I
can tell if I stop playing first, it doesn't happen.. Errors starting at
line 43 and repeats endlessly, I am having to kill the processes and
restart LMS or it basically doesn't work anymore.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-31 Thread SamY


Just one final note on volume. If you want a combination of the finest
granularity and the smoothest feel to volume changes, try setting the
maximum AVR volume to "60 (-20)" in the player's plugin settings and the
client app's volume up/down increment to "1%", which is an option in
both Squeezer and Material Skin. This combination makes the volume
control of these apps feel almost, dare I say, analog. :rolleyes:



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-30 Thread SamY


A great technical article on software volume control:

https://www.dr-lex.be/info-stuff/volumecontrols.html



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-30 Thread Aesculus


gnackwatschn wrote: 
> 
> 
> LMS shows volume control in % (0% - 100%). My AVR shows also volume in %
> (0%-98%). When I set LMS volume to 5%, it is translated to 20% on my
> AVR. 10% is translated to 28.5% on my AVR and so on. 

Another setting to review is in the plugin server settings (on the web).
See the Maximum Volume of the AVR/AVP. Depending one which setting you
choose the scale is larger or smaller.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-30 Thread SamY


gnackwatschn wrote: 
> In refer to my github issue I am writing here to discuss an issue I am
> experiencing. 
> 
> https://github.com/aesculus/denonavpcontrol/issues/23#issuecomment-1296308288
> 
> LMS shows volume control in % (0% - 100%). My AVR shows also volume in %
> (0%-98%). When I set LMS volume to 5%, it is translated to 20% on my
> AVR. 10% is translated to 28.5% on my AVR and so on. 
> 
> I do not know if this is intended behavior or not. In my opinion, this
> does not make much sense and is not straightforward. Why would I want to
> have two different % values for one player? I think such a nonlinear
> behavior only makes sense for transforming % to dB and vice versa. 
> 
> The behavior is independent from client apps (Squeezer, LMS Material). 
> 
> So if this behavior is a bug, please see my github issue as a bug
> report. If the behavior is intended, please see this as a feature
> request, to get an optional 1:1 volume transfer, where 5% in LMS is 5%
> on my AVR and 10% is 10% and so on.

As I said in my response to your Github issue, you are mistaken when you
refer to the AVR volume scale as a percentage. It is, in fact, a decibel
range, whether you choose to display it on a scale of 0 to 98 or -79.5
to 18, as the Denon allows you to do. The linear 0-100 percent scale of
the player does not directly correlate to the 0-98 decibel scale of the
AVR, which is logarithmic rather than linear. An increase of 3dB at any
point in the range is a doubling of perceived volume. The plugin uses an
algorithm based on psychoacoustics to translate between the two scales.
'Here'
(https://pulsarinstruments.com/news/understanding-decibels-decibel-scale-and-noise-measurement-units)
is an article you might want to read for further information on the
decibel scale.

To get back to your problem, I would suggest you ensure that the
incremental change value  in whatever client apps you use is set to as
low a value as possible, especially when listening at low levels. I have
found that a value of +/-2 is ideal for use with the plugin.

Thanks for your input and I hope this information is helpful.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-30 Thread gnackwatschn


In refer to my github issue I am writing here to discuss an issue I am
experiencing. 

https://github.com/aesculus/denonavpcontrol/issues/23#issuecomment-1296308288

LMS shows volume control in % (0% - 100%). My AVR shows also volume in %
(0%-98%). When I set LMS volume to 5%, it is translated to 20% on my
AVR. 10% is translated to 28.5% on my AVR and so on. 

I do not know if this is intended behavior or not. In my opinion, this
does not make much sense and is not straightforward. Why would I want to
have two different % values for one player? I think such a nonlinear
behavior only makes sense for transforming % to dB and vice versa. 

The behavior is independent from client apps (Squeezer, LMS Material). 

So if this behavior is a bug, please see my github issue as a bug
report. If the behavior is intended, please see this as a feature
request, to get an optional 1:1 volume transfer, where 5% in LMS is 5%
on my AVR and 10% is 10% and so on.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-29 Thread SamY


The main feature of this release is support for a new "Multi-zone" mode
that can be activated via the plugin's LMS setup menu. This mode allows
the user to dynamically switch player control among any of the AVR's
zones via the new "Zone Select" sub-menu of the Audio settings menu,
available when using Squeezer, Squeeze Ctrl, iPeng, or the Material Skin
client apps. All volume and muting requests received by the plugin are
directed to the currently selected zone only. However, any or all of the
activated zones can be playing the audio content simultaneously. Each
zone can also be powered on and off separately via the menu and, when
the LMS player is turned off, all active AVR zones are powered off
automatically. The Multi-zone feature is activated by selecting the new
"Enable multi-zone support?" checkbox in the plugin setup menu and is
disabled by default. It can only be selected if the "Enable audio
settings menus?"  option is also selected. For more information on this
and other features of the plugin, see the freshly updated 'Wiki pages'
(https://github.com/aesculus/denonavpcontrol/wiki) and, as always, feel
free to post any questions or problems here.

There are also a few bug fixes included, among them one that eliminates
a potential error loop condition.

Enjoy!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-29 Thread Sportswagoneer

SamY wrote: 
> @Sportswagoneer
> I have made some changes that should prevent this situation from
> occurring in the future. These changes will be included in version 4.7
> of the plugin, scheduled for release within the next few days. Thanks
> for your help in locating the source of the problem.

Sound great Sam!

IÂ’m using iPeng to control all my SB units. It re-sets the AVR volume
whenever itÂ’s turned on, necessitating a sudden adjustment. Will be
upgrading the plug-in as soon as itÂ’s ready.

Truly great response and support on your side! Thanks a lot!

Have been awaiting a “release” of the latest LMS - but I guess I might
just upgrade anyway.

Thanks again!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-28 Thread SamY


SamY wrote: 
> Looks like debug wasn't turned on for the plugin, David. There is only
> one line in the log file. Please turn debug on and recreate the scenario
> you described, i.e. turn both zones on and then power the LMS player off
> in Material Skin. Thanks.

I found a problem that would only occur when using a zone other than
Zone1 (Main) as the primary zone, which is what you are doing. I have
fixed it but I have also made some other changes in preparation for the
next release which will require you to replace the entire plugin
directory in order to do further testing. If you are okay with that, I
will need you to download the attached zip file, unzip it and replace
the DenonAvpControl directory in your LMS plugins directory with its
contents after backing up the old DenonAvpControl directory for
safekeeping. Do not just rename the old one. Move it out of the plugins
directory. After restarting LMS, you will first need to go into the
plugin's setup menu. Look for a new option called "Enable multi-zone
support?", select its checkbox and save the changes. Otherwise, the Zone
Select menu will not be shown. If you still have problems, send me a
debug log. Thanks again for your help.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-28 Thread SamY


SamY wrote: 
> That's definitely a problem. Turning the player off should power off all
> AVR zones currently in use. I'll check the debug log. 
> 
> 
> Don't know what to make of that. I'll check the log for any clues.

Looks like debug wasn't turned on for the plugin, David. There is only
one line in the log file. Please turn debug on and recreate the scenario
you described, i.e. turn both zones on and then power the LMS player off
in Material Skin. Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-28 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Now turn of the LMS (via MS) and LMS powers off, but Denon Z1 & Z2 stay
> on.
That's definitely a problem. Turning the player off should power off all
AVR zones currently in use. I'll check the debug log. 
> 
> Earlier in my testing, may not be in the log file, I found no responses
> at all for volume or on/off by the receiver, and I could only resolve it
> by rebooting pCP (and by default LMS). This happened a couple of times.
> 

Don't know what to make of that. I'll check the log for any clues.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-27 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> Glad to hear. Here's a little tip for you. Go into Material Skin's
> "Settings->Player" menu while your Denon player is active and scroll to
> the bottom where you should see the "Denon/Marantz AVR Settings" menu
> option. Press and hold that option for a second or so and it will be
> pinned to your home screen for easier access. As you will discover, MS
> is ultra-configurable --- one of its major strong points.

Good tip, sweet!

I am seeing an unexpected behaviour, you may be able to help me out. I
have been using MS for control, and my primary receiver Zone is z2. I
also have LMS connected into z1. Power on LMS, z2 comes on, can play
music and control volume etc. Select z1 in zone menu, z1 powers up,
again vol etc. controls perfectly. Select z2 in zone menu, z2 is now
controlled for vol. All great and running smoothly. Now turn of the LMS
(via MS) and LMS powers off, but Denon Z1 & Z2 stay on. Turn LMS back on
(MS) and I can turn Z1 & Z2 off using Denon AVR settings and they turn
off. Then power down LMS (MS). I had debug on while I was trying it out,
attached just in case you want to have a look. 38970
Earlier in my testing, may not be in the log file, I found no responses
at all for volume or on/off by the receiver, and I could only resolve it
by rebooting pCP (and by default LMS). This happened a couple of times.

Cheers, David


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*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-27 Thread SamY


@Sportswagoneer
I have made some changes that should prevent this situation from
occurring in the future. These changes will be included in version 4.7
of the plugin, scheduled for release within the next few days. Thanks
for your help in locating the source of the problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-27 Thread SamY


Sportswagoneer wrote: 
> Thanks again Sam!
> 
> So then it finally happened again! I've truncated and zipped the server
> log file and uploaded the first part of it here.
> 
> This time the LMS ended up shutting down when the disk was full,
> compressing the server.log to a .gz file which left the rest of the
> system with enough space to operate...
> 38967
> 
> The error loop commences around line 1950.

Okay. I think I see what is going on. It's a timing problem that can
happen when the volume is being rapidly changed on a fast network. In
this case, the SB volume was being decreased from 40 to 27, which
generated 13 consecutive volume change requests to the plugin in .35
seconds at a rate of more than 1 every .03 seconds. Despite logic in the
plugin that buffers volume requests in order to prevent overloading the
AVR in cases such as this, it sent a second request to the AVR (vol 27)
before the first one (vol 39) completed, which is not necessarily a
problem in and of itself. However, the first one completed just as the
second one was being sent, causing the socket to be closed and creating
the error. That doesn't explain the loop, however, or why the plugin's
error handling routine is apparently not being invoked to take care of
the situation. I will look into how and where this timing problem should
be addressed in the long term, possibly in LMS. For now, I will look at
changing the plugin to better detect and prevent the scenario from
happening and try to get some form of that in the upcoming v4.7 release,
which is imminent. In the meantime, I would suggest refraining from
aggressively "spinning the volume dial". With regard to that, are you
using a client app such as Squeezer or iPeng to control the player, or
just the SB Touch player itself? I ask because there are differences in
how each of the client apps handles volume changes. My favorite in that
regard is the Material Skin client which, in addition to the standard
hardware/software volume buttons, supports changing it via a swipe
up/down on the Now Playing screen and buffers the resultant volume
change requests in a smooth and intuitive manner. You also might want to
consider upgrading to LMS v8.3, as the version of v8.2 that you are
running has not been updated in over a year and there are fixes and
improvements happening on a regular basis.

By the way, I understand that this problem is a major one that has
caused you some real inconvenience, and I appreciate your patience and
cooperation.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-27 Thread Sportswagoneer


SamY wrote: 
> I'm sorry you're having this problem. I would like you to try to
> recreate it with debug logging turned on for the plugin so I can see the
> select read() error loop occurring in the context of what the plugin is
> doing:
> 
> 1. Shut down LMS
> 2. Delete the server.log file
> 3. Restart LMS
> 4. Go to Server Settings/Advanced/Logging and change the logging level
> for plugin.denonavpcontrol to "Debug"
> 5. Begin using the plugin
> 
> As soon as you can determine that the error loop is happening, shut down
> LMS and upload the server.log file along with any observations
> concerning the behavior.
> 
> Thanks for your help.

Thanks again Sam!

So then it finally happened again! I've truncated and zipped the server
log file and uploaded the first part of it here.

This time the LMS ended up shutting down when the disk was full,
compressing the server.log to a .gz file which left the rest of the
system with enough space to operate...
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-26 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Hi Sam, correct again! My bad, have set as suggested and all good on MS.
> Thanks again.
> 
> Cheers, David

Glad to hear. Here's a little tip for you. Go into Material Skin's
"Settings->Player" menu while your Denon player is active and scroll to
the bottom where you should see the "Denon/Marantz AVR Settings" menu
option. Press and hold that option for a second or so and it will be
pinned to your home screen for easier access. As you will discover, MS
is ultra-configurable --- one of its major strong points.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-25 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> No. It works great for me, as I said before. You probably need to set
> Material Skin's "Fixed volume players" plugin option in "Server
> settings/Plugins/Material Skin" to "Display standard volume control",
> which is documented in the Denon AVP/AVR Control plugin's wiki pages,
> linked from its setup menu. I'm not sure why that option is in the MS
> plugin menu rather than in the app settings. Maybe Craig can comment on
> that. Let me know how it goes.

Hi Sam, correct again! My bad, have set as suggested and all good on MS.
Thanks again.

Cheers, David



*Server*rpi3 pCP8.1.0 LMS8.2.0
*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
*Alfresco*Z2 > Krix Tropix/Klipsch SW
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-25 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> I have set it up for left/right swipe track selection as well as up/down
> swipe volume adjustment - left to right works correctly but up/down has
> no effect on volume, same situation as with Squeeze-CTRL. I have double
> check the MS settings and tried turning the settings on & off etc. but I
> can not get the up/down to respond. Did you find this with MS?
> 

No. It works great for me, as I said before. You probably need to set
Material Skin's "Fixed volume players" plugin option in "Server
settings/Plugins/Material Skin" to "Display standard volume control",
which is documented in the Denon AVP/AVR Control plugin's wiki pages,
linked from its setup menu. I'm not sure why that option is in the MS
plugin menu rather than in the app settings. Maybe Craig can comment on
that. Let me know how it goes.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-25 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> Good idea. However, if you like the swipe up/down volume control method,
> you should check out the Material Skin app/plugin. It has the smoothest
> implementation of it that I have seen. I encourage you to give it a try.

Hi Sam, I am using the V4.7 of Denon plugin still, and have taken your
advice to give Material Skin a try, very impressed! Interestingly
though, and it is likely me doing something wrong again, I have set it
up for left/right swipe track selection as well as up/down swipe volume
adjustment - left to right works correctly but up/down has no effect on
volume, same situation as with Squeeze-CTRL. I have double check the MS
settings and tried turning the settings on & off etc. but I can not get
the up/down to respond. Did you find this with MS?

Regards, David



*Server*rpi3 pCP8.1.0 LMS8.2.0
*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
*Alfresco*Z2 > Krix Tropix/Klipsch SW
*Others*SB Player/androids > Bose Soundlink Mini
*SBT/SB Player Remotes* Squeeze Ctrl/androids

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-24 Thread SamY


cpd73 wrote: 
> You should not need the APK, the swipe up/down to change volume should
> work on a regular browser - to use hardware volume controls, however,
> you need the APK. Also, APK does not need to be side-loaded you can
> install from f-droid (which I would recommend).

Thanks for the clarification Craig. I was going from memory which, at my
age, is something I should probably stop doing.  ;-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-24 Thread cpd73


SamY wrote: 
> You have to both install the plugin and side load the Android control
> apk to use it

You should not need the APK, the swipe up/down to change volume should
work on a regular browser - to use hardware volume controls, however,
you need the APK. Also, APK does not need to be side-loaded you can
install from f-droid (which I would recommend).



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(Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update
messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
will be logged here.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-23 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> I will take a look at it. I did try to go back from the beta version by
> replacing the two beta files with what was there pre beta, but it didn't
> revert completely, still some remnants of the zone menus, so I am back
> on the beta. I could remove the plugin and then reinstall but I am happy
> to stay with the beta for now, maybe Material Skin is the answer.
> 
> Cheers, David

Sounds like you did something wrong when trying to restore to v4.6.3 but
no worries. Just stick with the beta. It's more stable anyway. V4.7
should be released this week with multi-zone support. The only
difference will be that the multi-zone feature will be an option in the
plugin setup menu and it will default to "Off", since most users won't
need it.

Thanks again for your help, David.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-23 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> I will take a look at it. I did try to go back from the beta version by
> replacing the two beta files with what was there pre beta, but it didn't
> revert completely, still some remnants of the zone menus, so I am back
> on the beta. I could remove the plugin and then reinstall but I am happy
> to stay with the beta for now, maybe Material Skin is the answer.
> 
> Cheers, David

Sounds like you did something wrong when trying to restore to v4.6.3 but
no worries. Just stick with the beta. It's more stable anyway. V4.7
should be released this week with multi-zone support. The only
difference will be that the multi-zone feature will be an option in the
plugin setup menu and it will default to "Off", since most users won't
need it.

Thanks again for your help, David.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-23 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> Good idea. However, if you like the swipe up/down volume control method,
> you should check out the Material Skin app/plugin. It has the smoothest
> implementation of it that I have seen. You have to both install the
> plugin and side load the Android control apk to use it, but it's worth
> the effort. Be sure to read all of the instructions carefully. I
> encourage you to give it a try.

I will take a look at it. I did try to go back from the beta version by
replacing the two beta files with what was there pre beta, but it didn't
revert completely, still some remnants of the zone menus, so I am back
on the beta. I could remove the plugin and then reinstall but I am happy
to stay with the beta for now, maybe Material Skin is the answer.

Cheers, David



*Server*rpi3 pCP8.1.0 LMS8.2.0
*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-23 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Hi Sam,
> 
> I already have the Squeezer app on my phone, and having tried both I
> preferred Squeeze-CTRL, mainly for the up/down swipe vol control
> interface. While the plugin is not controlling the behaviour, I suspect
> that the use of the revised plugin has caused the change in behaviour.
> As a test I am going to reinstate the previous version of the plugin and
> see how it runs. 
> 
> Cheers, David

Good idea. However, if you like the swipe up/down volume control method,
you should check out the Material Skin app/plugin. It has the smoothest
implementation of it that I have seen. You have to both install the
plugin and side load the Android control apk to use it, but it's worth
the effort. Be sure to read all of the instructions carefully. I
encourage you to give it a try.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-23 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> Okay, David. It sounds like everything is working as expected. I also
> have observed the behavior  you're seeing with Squeeze Ctrl but I can
> assure you it has nothing to do with the plugin. You might want to
> download the Squeezer app for comparison. If you do, you'll notice that
> there is an additional menu available there for adjusting the relative
> channel volumes (basically a balance control for zones other than the
> Main zone). Thanks for your help in the testing effort and let me know
> if you run into any more problems.

Hi Sam,

I already have the Squeezer app on my phone, and having tried both I
preferred Squeeze-CTRL, mainly for the up/down swipe vol control
interface. While the plugin is not controlling the behaviour, I suspect
that the use of the revised plugin has caused the change in behaviour.
As a test I am going to reinstate the previous version of the plugin and
see how it runs. 

Cheers, David



*Server*rpi3 pCP8.1.0 LMS8.2.0
*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-23 Thread SamY


Okay, David. It sounds like everything is working as expected. I also
have observed the behavior  you're seeing with Squeeze Ctrl but I can
assure you it has nothing to do with the plugin. You might want to
download the Squeezer app for comparison. If you do, you'll notice that
there is an additional menu available there for adjusting the relative
channel volumes (basically a balance control for zones other than the
Main zone). Thanks for your help in the testing effort and let me know
if you run into any more problems.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-23 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> Sounds good. Did you get the "Power on volume" for Zone2 set up and
> behaving the way you want?

I haven't had a very long testing session yet, access to Z1 of the Denon
has been limited due to it being wet here and others deciding they want
to use it!

In the brief sessions that I have managed I would say that it is working
well and I have the volume level issues sorted.

The only downside I am seeing is the interface with Squeeze-CTRL
regarding volume control. As mentioned before, the swipe up/down on the
"now playing" screen does not adjust the volume as before, but does
affect it albeit in varying increments and randomly, sometimes
increasing during a swipe down, plus there is no onscreen report of the
volume level anymore. It I select to have the "pop-up" on, then when I
swipe up/down a pop up volume bar appears which I can use left to right
and it shows vol level, still not ideal. Also, the fixed vol controls on
bottom left of the screen do function, but again there is no report of
vol level on screen. 

I will get to do a longer test at some time soon.

Regards, David



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*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
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680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-22 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Yes, pretty sure it wasn't me, have checked my download folder and both
> files were downloaded. I have deleted the .txt from both and installed,
> but haven't had a decent chance to test properly yet, maybe later
> today.
> 
> Cheers, David

Sounds good. Did you get the "Power on volume" for Zone2 set up and
behaving the way you want?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-22 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> Just want to make sure you saw the edit to my previous post, David.

Yes, pretty sure it wasn't me, have checked my download folder and both
files were downloaded. I have deleted the .txt from both and installed,
but haven't had a decent chance to test properly yet, maybe later
today.

Cheers, David



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*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-22 Thread SamY


SamY wrote: 
> Please update your files to the ones attached below after renaming them.
> Thanks!
> 
> EDIT: @DavidBulluss, it appears that someone downloaded Plugin.pm twice
> instead of each file once. Please check. Thanks.

Just want to make sure you saw the edit to my previous post, David.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-22 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> My bad again, Z1 was a typo, yes, have found the menu for Z2 setup of on
> volume. Haven't installed the revision yet, will do now, without .txt!
> 
> Cheers, David

Please update your files to the ones attached below after renaming them.
Thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-21 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> I didn't say that, David. I said you can do it on *_Zone_2_*, as shown
> in the manual. You just have to find the right menu. Do you have the
> manual? If not, it's easy to find online.
> 
> 
> 
> Congratulations! You found one of the bugs fixed in the next revision,
> which is attached. Don't forget to rename both files to remove the .txt
> extension.
> 
> EDIT: And here are pages 172 and 173 of the manual for your edification.
> Note that the subject is "ZONE2 Setup". 38942

My bad again, Z1 was a typo, yes, have found the menu for Z2 setup of on
volume. Haven't installed the revision yet, will do now, without .txt!

Cheers, David



*Server*rpi3 pCP8.1.0 LMS8.2.0
*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-20 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> 
> Correct that I can set Z1 on volume as you stated. 

I didn't say that, David. I said you can do it on *_Zone_2_*, as shown
in the manual. You just have to find the right menu. Do you have the
manual? If not, it's easy to find online.

> In switching between zones via plugin at one stage the track playing
> restarted, which is odd. It only did that once, and it was while I had
> power on V set to Last. Time to install the further revision, me thinks.
> Will do so and try it out

Congratulations! You found one of the bugs fixed in the next revision,
which is attached. Don't forget to rename both files to remove the .txt
extension.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-20 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> David, I can assure you that the initial volume for Zone 2 can be set in
> the menu of your AVR-X3000. Below is a portion of page 173 of the
> manual, which specifically documents the Zone 2 audio settings. As I
> said, the Quick Select settings have nothing to do with it. Once you
> have found and set this correctly, you should be fine. No need to
> manually work around it. I will soon be posting a newer version of
> Plugin.pm for you to continue testing with. It is more efficient at
> switching between zones and also contains a couple of bug fixes. Thanks
> for your help and for the positive feedback.
> 
> 38939

My bad, I must admit to rushing a bit this week, been a busy one.
Weekend coming, will be able to take a better look through everything.

Correct that I can set Z1 on volume as you stated. Not sure what is
going on but once I set it to "Last" the amp started acting unusually,
and wouldn't switch on or off via Denon plugin. Eventually had to
disconnect from mains and wait then reconnect. All fine for a while then
it did it again. On & off via remote and it started behaving again. I
have now set power on vol to a numeric value and it seems to be working.
In switching between zones via plugin at one stage the track playing
restarted, which is odd. It only did that once, and it was while I had
power on V set to Last. Time to install the further revision, me thinks.
Will do so and try it out.

Again, thanks for all of this.

Cheers, David.



*Server*rpi3 pCP8.1.0 LMS8.2.0
*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-20 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> 
> Re the volume jump after turning default zone off and then back on using
> the plugin menu, I have checked every setting I know of, in particular
> QuickSelect where I have now set the on volume quite low for Z2. Along
> the way I have tried setting the volume via the receiver but the only
> options for Z2 is variable or a set volume (which doesn't work with
> fixed volume for LMS) and the option for last is not present for Z2 (it
> is for Z1), apart from Quick Select I can see no option for setting the
> on volume for Z2. The volume jump still occurs, and is to around 60 or
> so, where my general listening level is within 20 to 50. I can live with
> this, I will just not turn Z2 off if I think I might want to turn it
> back on in the same session, I will just turn its volume down to 0.
> 

David, I can assure you that the initial volume for Zone 2 can be set in
the menu of your AVR-X3000. Below is a portion of page 173 of the
manual, which specifically documents the Zone 2 audio settings. As I
said, the Quick Select settings have nothing to do with it. Once you
have found and set this correctly, you should be fine. No need to
manually work around it. I will soon be posting a newer version of
Plugin.pm for you to continue testing with. It is more efficient at
switching between zones and also contains a couple of bug fixes. Thanks
for your help and for the positive feedback.

38939


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-20 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> Upon further reflection, I will not be changing this behavior. Just set
> the Denon's Zone 2 "Power On Volume" according to your liking. Note that
> it can be set to "Last", meaning where it was set when it last powered
> off, which is what I would recommend in your situation. You probably had
> it set to a high value because you were running the player at variable
> output level before. Please continue testing and let me know if you run
> into any more problems.
> 
> 
> 
> It seems that you inadvertently turned on the "Show Popup" option in
> Squeeze Ctrl's Volume Options settings when you were in there. Turn it
> off and the swipe up/down volume behavior should be back to the way it
> was.

Hi Sam, I am enjoying the way it is working very much, its main fuction
with regard to controlling separate zones is great.

Re the volume jump after turning default zone off and then back on using
the plugin menu, I have checked every setting I know of, in particular
QuickSelect where I have now set the on volume quite low for Z2. Along
the way I have tried setting the volume via the receiver but the only
options for Z2 is variable or a set volume (which doesn't work with
fixed volume for LMS) and the option for last is not present for Z2 (it
is for Z1), apart from Quick Select I can see no option for setting the
on volume for Z2. The volume jump still occurs, and is to around 60 or
so, where my general listening level is within 20 to 50. I can live with
this, I will just not turn Z2 off if I think I might want to turn it
back on in the same session, I will just turn its volume down to 0.

The Squeeze-CTRL interface is evolving. As you noted, I had turned the
Show Popup on, but only in an attempt to see if it had any effect on the
loss of swipe up and down on cover art function which I use, but it
didn't. Oddly enough, when I turned the show popup off today it partly
restored the swip up/down function, but it is very jerky, I suggest that
it is responding very slowly and at the moment is virtually unusable. I
am able to use the std volume control function though so again I can
work with it.

Log file attached: 38938

Having reported all of that I must say the function is amazing, and you
must be congratulated for what you have accomplished, well done!

Cheers, David


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680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-20 Thread SamY


SamY wrote: 
> I am open to changing how the volume is set in that situation and will
> look into the possibility of restoring it to what it was set at before
> it was last turned off if you think that makes more sense.

Upon further reflection, I will not be changing this behavior. Just set
the Denon's Zone 2 "Power On Volume" according to your liking. Note that
it can be set to "Last", meaning where it was set when it last powered
off, which is what I would recommend in your situation. You probably had
it set to a high value because you were running the player at variable
output level before. Please continue testing and let me know if you run
into any more problems.

> I haven't noticed that but there are a multitude of options in
> Squeeze-Ctrl. Maybe it's that "Hide Volume Controls" option I was making
> fun of. Try experimenting with the settings or post something on the
> Squeeze Ctrl forum. Personally, I mostly use Squeezer and Material Skin
> as my LMS clients, although Squeeze Ctrl has some nice features too.

It seems that you inadvertently turned on the "Show Popup" option in
Squeeze Ctrl's Volume Options settings when you were in there. Turn it
off and the swipe up/down volume behavior should be back to the way it
was.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-19 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Sam, you were correct about .txt still on the file, all corrected now.
> Starting with default zone only, Z2, the zone selection menu is there
> and I can select another zone. When I select Z1 it turns on and selects
> the correct input and I can control the volume now independent of Z2. By
> then selecting zone selection Z2 I can now control volume in Z2
> independent of Z1. That all works very nicely. Given both zones are on,
> if I select one of the zones (e.g Z2) I can then turn it off by
> selecting it in the top line of the menu where it says Zone 2 on, and it
> turns that zone off. Again it works well. My only grumble is that when I
> turn that Zone (in this case Z2) back on by selecting it again in the
> top line it comes back on but with a much higher volume than either zone
> is/was being played at and certainly not the volume it was set at before
> being turned off then on, and certainly not the volume the other zone is
> set at. It may be something that I have preset elsewhere so will take a
> look, but that high volume level has varied each time, sometimes 60,
> sometimes 69... etc.

When the "Primary" zone, which in your case is Zone2, is powered on by
selecting the power status menu button, any Quick Select command
assigned to it in the plugin's setup menu is not invoked. The Quick
Select only happens when the AVR is initially powered on. As with all of
the zones, it is simply powered on and the volume is set to whatever
value you have specified in the Denon setup menu as "Power On Volume"
for that zone. You should check to see what it is set to for Zone2 (and
for any other AVR zones you plan to use with the plugin) and set it to a
value that works for you. Contrary to your observation, though, it
should be set to that constant value each time it is powered on. If that
is not what you are seeing, please generate a debug log and I will take
a look at it. I am open to changing how the volume is set in that
situation and will look into the possibility of restoring it to what it
was set at before it was last turned off if you think that makes more
sense. Even better, I already store the initial volume setting for the
Primary zone at startup (after the Quick Select, if any) and could
restore it to that value. In the case of the Secondary zones (the Main
zone in your case), they will always be set to the "Power On Volume" for
that zone when they are turned on. Therefore, you need to make sure that
the "Power On Volume" for those zones is set to a reasonable level.

> There has been a change in the volume control behaviour in Squeeze-CTRL
> that I do not like. Previously I was able to swipe album art up or down
> to control volume, now swiping the album art brings up a slider volume
> control which I have to swipe left/right. I can not see that any
> squeeze-CTRL settings have changed. Have you seen this change?

I haven't noticed that but there are a multitude of options in
Squeeze-Ctrl. Maybe it's that "Hide Volume Controls" option I was making
fun of. Try experimenting with the settings or post something on the
Squeeze Ctrl forum. Personally, I mostly use Squeezer and Material Skin
as my LMS clients, although Squeeze Ctrl has some nice features too.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-19 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> You did something wrong but the server log is not helpful. Check that
> you correctly renamed Plugin.pm.txt to Plugin.pm (case sensitive) in the
> plugin directory. If you can't spot the problem, send me a "ls -l"
> output of the directory contents. In the meantime, you can test with the
> previous version after setting the Squeeze Ctrl options from my last
> post.

Sam, you were correct about .txt still on the file, all corrected now.
Starting with default zone only, Z2, the zone selection menu is there
and I can select another zone. When I select Z1 it turns on and selects
the correct input and I can control the volume now independent of Z2. By
then selecting zone selection Z2 I can now control volume in Z2
independent of Z1. That all works very nicely. Given both zones are on,
if I select one of the zones (e.g Z2) I can then turn it off by
selecting it in the top line of the menu where it says Zone 2 on, and it
turns that zone off. Again it works well. My only grumble is that when I
turn that Zone (in this case Z2) back on by selecting it again in the
top line it comes back on but with a much higher volume than either zone
is/was being played at and certainly not the volume it was set at before
being turned off then on, and certainly not the volume the other zone is
set at. It may be something that I have preset elsewhere so will take a
look, but that high volume level has varied each time, sometimes 60,
sometimes 69... etc.

There has been a change in the volume control behaviour in Squeeze-CTRL
that I do not like. Previously I was able to swipe album art up or down
to control volume, now swiping the album art brings up a slider volume
control which I have to swipe left/right. I can not see that any
squeeze-CTRL settings have changed. Have you seen this change?

I would have attached a log file but when I just checked it the logging
was not set to debug for the app, it had reset itself to error.

Cheers, David



*Server*rpi3 pCP8.1.0 LMS8.2.0
*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
*Alfresco*Z2 > Krix Tropix/Klipsch SW
*Others*SB Player/androids > Bose Soundlink Mini
*SBT/SB Player Remotes* Squeeze Ctrl/androids

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-19 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> You are correct that I had missed the most recent version of plugin.pm.
> I replaced the older one with it and now the Denon AVP Control plugin
> has disappeared from LMS. I then reverted to the previous beta and the
> plugin was then reinstated in LMS. Log attached.
> 38930
> 
> Cheers, David

You did something wrong but the server log is not helpful. Check that
you correctly renamed Plugin.pm.txt to Plugin.pm (case sensitive) in the
plugin directory. If you can't spot the problem, send me a "ls -l"
output of the directory contents. In the meantime, you can test with the
previous version after setting the Squeeze Ctrl options from my last
post.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-19 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> The volume controls in the Squeeze Ctrl app should control the volume of
> whichever AVR zone is currently selected. My bet is that you have
> forgotten to turn on the rather cryptically named Squeeze Ctrl settings
> option "Preferences->Controls->Volume Options->Fixed Volume Send
> Command" as mentioned in the plugin's Wiki pages (see below). Also make
> sure you haven't turned on the app's  "Hide Volume Controls" option.
> (Why would you want to do that anyway? :-)  With those settings, you
> should be good to go. Did you update to the most recent version of
> Plugin.pm?

You are correct that I had missed the most recent version of plugin.pm.
I replaced the older one with it and now the Denon AVP Control plugin
has disappeared from LMS. I then reverted to the previous beta and the
plugin was then reinstated in LMS. Log attached.
38930

Cheers, David


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|Filename: server.log(28).zip   |
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*Server*rpi3 pCP8.1.0 LMS8.2.0
*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
*Alfresco*Z2 > Krix Tropix/Klipsch SW
*Others*SB Player/androids > Bose Soundlink Mini
*SBT/SB Player Remotes* Squeeze Ctrl/androids

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-19 Thread SamY


DavidBulluss wrote: 
> Well spotted! I have now set the volume output level to 100% and I can
> now see the zone control, and have been able to select between Z2
> (default) and Z1. Z1 automatically switches to the correct source, same
> as Z2. Only problem I am now getting is volume is at 100% with no
> control other than at the receiver, which isn't workable for Z2 due to
> remoteness of listening area to receiver. Maybe I have missed something
> else?
> 
> Cheers, David
> 
> 38928

The volume controls in the Squeeze Ctrl app should control the volume of
whichever AVR zone is currently selected. My bet is that you have
forgotten to turn on the rather cryptically named Squeeze Ctrl settings
option "Preferences->Controls->Volume Options->Fixed Volume Send
Command" as mentioned in the plugin's Wiki pages (see below). Also make
sure you haven't turned on the app's  "Hide Volume Controls" option.
(Why would you want to do that anyway? :-)  With those settings, you
should be good to go. Did you update to the most recent version of
Plugin.pm?

38929


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Denon AVP Control Plugin

2022-10-19 Thread DavidBulluss


SamY wrote: 
> It sounds as though you don't have the player's audio settings set
> correctly. See the notes from my previous post:
> 
> >   >   > 
  - The player's "Volume Control" LMS Audio option must be set to
  > "Output level is fixed at 100%" for the Zone menu to appear.
  > > > 
> This is required in order for the zone volumes to be individually
> controllable. I'll look at the log file to verify when I get to my
> computer.
> 
> EDIT:  Verified
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > [22-10-19 16:19:04.4614] 
Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback (2207) *** DenonAvpControl: 
commandCallback() Power On for AVP/AVR model: AVR-X3000EUR
  > [22-10-19 16:19:04.4624] Plugins::DenonAvpControl::Plugin::commandCallback 
(2208) *** DenonAvpControl: commandCallback() Player output level is: Variable

> > 

Well spotted! I have now set the volume output level to 100% and I can
now see the zone control, and have been able to select between Z2
(default) and Z1. Z1 automatically switches to the correct source, same
as Z2. Only problem I am now getting is volume is at 100% with no
control other than at the receiver, which isn't workable for Z2 due to
remoteness of listening area to receiver. Maybe I have missed something
else?

Cheers, David

38928


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|Filename: server.log(27).zip   |
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*Server*rpi3 pCP8.1.0 LMS8.2.0
*Media*USB hard drive
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113  > Bose Acoustimass10 / Krix
Seismix3 18" 300w RMS custom cinema sub (& AR 77XB t/table, Stanton
680MkII / Grado F-1+ > NAD7155 to phono pre-amp > Amp+)
*Family/kitchen*SBT > Denon AVRX3000 zone 1 > Krix Acoustix F, Centrix
C, Holographix R & Original Seismix 7 15" 400w RMS sub 
*Alfresco*Z2 > Krix Tropix/Klipsch SW
*Others*SB Player/androids > Bose Soundlink Mini
*SBT/SB Player Remotes* Squeeze Ctrl/androids

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