Re: [Podofo-users] Any plans to relocate to github?

2020-08-17 Thread Michal Sudolsky
>
> The integration of
> svn and tickets is also a plus
>
>
On both github and gitlab there is even better integration between tickets
(called issues) and git. For example accepting and merging a pull request
can close the respective ticket automatically.


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Re: [Podofo-users] Any plans to relocate to github?

2020-08-14 Thread Kai-Uwe
A more community fair place might be www.gitlab.org , which is even
independently hostable. So it provides freedom and control to its users
in contrary to the big finance/Gates+Epstein friends behind the github
environment.

See: https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/

best regards,
Kai-Uwe


Am 14.08.20 um 19:48 schrieb zyx:
> On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 17:55 +0200, Michal Sudolsky wrote:
>> I totally agree with that.
>   Hi,
> if I implied I'm against git, then I'm sorry, it was not my intention.
> I've no problem with git itself (even I do not use all its features),
> I'm just not that keen to GitHub. I know SourceForge can do both svn
> and git. I do not have any experience with their infrastructure on top
> of git, like the mentioned pull requests and such. The integration of
> svn and tickets is also a plus (means moving sources might also mean to
> move the tickets).
>
> Again, just my personal opinion.
>   Bye,
>   zyx
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Re: [Podofo-users] Any plans to relocate to github?

2020-08-14 Thread zyx
On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 17:55 +0200, Michal Sudolsky wrote:
> I totally agree with that.

Hi,
if I implied I'm against git, then I'm sorry, it was not my intention.
I've no problem with git itself (even I do not use all its features),
I'm just not that keen to GitHub. I know SourceForge can do both svn
and git. I do not have any experience with their infrastructure on top
of git, like the mentioned pull requests and such. The integration of
svn and tickets is also a plus (means moving sources might also mean to
move the tickets).

Again, just my personal opinion.
Bye,
zyx



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Re: [Podofo-users] Any plans to relocate to github?

2020-08-12 Thread Michal Sudolsky
Hi,

I totally agree with that.

Actually I have a local git fork of podofo using the git-svn tool. It is
easier for me to do both simple and complex changes on that using branches,
staging and other git features. Then I can export these changes as git
patches. Then to simplify things on the upstream side I reapply these
patches on the svn repository and export as svn patches. When they are
applied to upstream I would do git rebase to synchronise it. This works
seamlessly in most cases except in a few cases where the same change on
upstream was little different from my local change. I think moving to git
repo would greatly simplify things not only for me but also for maintainer
and (potential) contributors. With github (or other git-based system) a
contributor can directly create pull requests from changes made on his/her
local copy by single click. The maintainer can then review changes and
incorporate them by single click instead of manipulating with patch files.
It is just about simplifying things. I doubt that there is something
similar and such easy for svn. And branches in git are much more
lightweight, they are less or more just pointers to specific commits
instead of full copy of files on svn where the process of merging is
probably not so easy (I guess this is why we are sending patch files
instead of creating branches on svn repo?).

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 2:25 PM Thomas Barnekov <
thomas.barne...@formpipe.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> In my opinion, a move to GitHub or any other Git-based system could
> benefit the PoDoFo project in terms of contributions.
>
> Subversion makes it very hard to maintain a fork with your own patches,
> and the current process for getting a patch into PoDoFo seems to rely a lot
> on manual labor. I'm afraid the current process (and Subversion) poses a
> barrier for some people when it comes to contributing to PoDoFo.
> On top of that, it seems that patches sent to the mailing list are
> sometimes overlooked or forgotten, which is not exactly a motivating factor
> for contributors.
>
> The strength of GitHub is that it's easy to create your own fork where you
> can commit your changes. Once you're ready, you send a pull request to the
> main project to get your changes incorporated/accepted.
> Until your PR is accepted, it's easy to keep your fork up-to-date with the
> main project, so you don't have to wait for your patch to be accepted
> before you can use it yourself.
>
> For the maintainer, reviewing and accepting a contribution (in the shape
> of a pull request) is done with a few clicks in a browser. This could help
> speed up the process of getting submitted patches into the main PoDoFo repo.
>
> GitHub is pretty much the standard for hosting open-source projects, so
> basically every future potential contributor will already be familiar with
> the process of forking and sending pull requests, but there are plenty of
> alternatives that provide pretty much the same advantages.
> It's basically all about making it as easy as possible for people to
> contribute.
>
> Personally I've only contributed a single patch to PoDoFo, because the bug
> was a show stopper for me. I don't bother doing minor contributions because
> the it's basically too troublesome to contribute, compared to the work that
> would actually go into the code itself.
>
> But that's just my point of view.
>
> Best Regards,
> Thomas Barnekov
>
> -Original Message-
> From: zyx 
> Sent: 12. august 2020 09:32
> To: podofo-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Podofo-users] Any plans to relocate to github?
>
> On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 10:01 +0500, Ivan Romanov via Podofo-users wrote:
> > My question in title.
>
> Hi,
> I hope not. I do not think the move itself would make the project more
> attractive to the contributors. Though that would be nice to see (more
> contributors, not the move to GitHub).
>
> Just my personal opinion, I'm not the decision maker here.
> Bye,
> zyx
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Re: [Podofo-users] Any plans to relocate to github?

2020-08-12 Thread Thomas Barnekov
Hi,
In my opinion, a move to GitHub or any other Git-based system could benefit the 
PoDoFo project in terms of contributions.

Subversion makes it very hard to maintain a fork with your own patches, and the 
current process for getting a patch into PoDoFo seems to rely a lot on manual 
labor. I'm afraid the current process (and Subversion) poses a barrier for some 
people when it comes to contributing to PoDoFo.
On top of that, it seems that patches sent to the mailing list are sometimes 
overlooked or forgotten, which is not exactly a motivating factor for 
contributors.

The strength of GitHub is that it's easy to create your own fork where you can 
commit your changes. Once you're ready, you send a pull request to the main 
project to get your changes incorporated/accepted.
Until your PR is accepted, it's easy to keep your fork up-to-date with the main 
project, so you don't have to wait for your patch to be accepted before you can 
use it yourself.

For the maintainer, reviewing and accepting a contribution (in the shape of a 
pull request) is done with a few clicks in a browser. This could help speed up 
the process of getting submitted patches into the main PoDoFo repo.

GitHub is pretty much the standard for hosting open-source projects, so 
basically every future potential contributor will already be familiar with the 
process of forking and sending pull requests, but there are plenty of 
alternatives that provide pretty much the same advantages.
It's basically all about making it as easy as possible for people to 
contribute. 

Personally I've only contributed a single patch to PoDoFo, because the bug was 
a show stopper for me. I don't bother doing minor contributions because the 
it's basically too troublesome to contribute, compared to the work that would 
actually go into the code itself.

But that's just my point of view.

Best Regards,
Thomas Barnekov

-Original Message-
From: zyx  
Sent: 12. august 2020 09:32
To: podofo-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Podofo-users] Any plans to relocate to github?

On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 10:01 +0500, Ivan Romanov via Podofo-users wrote:
> My question in title.

Hi,
I hope not. I do not think the move itself would make the project more 
attractive to the contributors. Though that would be nice to see (more 
contributors, not the move to GitHub).

Just my personal opinion, I'm not the decision maker here.
Bye,
zyx



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Re: [Podofo-users] Any plans to relocate to github?

2020-08-12 Thread zyx
On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 10:01 +0500, Ivan Romanov via Podofo-users wrote:
> My question in title.

Hi,
I hope not. I do not think the move itself would make the project more
attractive to the contributors. Though that would be nice to see (more
contributors, not the move to GitHub).

Just my personal opinion, I'm not the decision maker here.
Bye,
zyx



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[Podofo-users] Any plans to relocate to github?

2020-08-11 Thread Ivan Romanov via Podofo-users
Hi guys.

My question in title. I see that PoDoFo is not actively developing. Also
there are many issues and patches. Many people use mailng list or
tickets to send patches. Github more suitble for this tasks. It has
perfect pull requests which allows not-members of PoDoFo to easy send
patches. Also github allows to post binaries and own site. Initially my
project Torrent File Editor partially was placed on SF. I used SF to
share binary packages, source code archives and as homepage but source
code and issue tracker was placed on Gtihub. But some time ago I fully
moved to Github. And it works better than SF.

I think for start on Github may be created mirror of PoDoFo SF repo and
use it to apply patches. 


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