Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
I will write you from San Marino, and let you know how keeping 95% of what I make works out, sure no problem... I am sure I will be doing much better than all of you Socialists. On Nov 6, 11:24 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > write us from prison and let us know how that

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Socialism so·cial·ism(sō'shə-lĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key n. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls

Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread mike [move on] 532
write us from prison and let us know how that plan worked out for you ! On Nov 7, 2:22 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not me... > > I will choose for myself where the bulk of my Wealth goes. > > Not you Loony Liberals. > > On Nov 6, 11:18 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrot

Re: Obama election an historical milestone? Reflections on class and race in America

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
This from someone who doesn't understand the basic tenents of Socialism... On Nov 6, 11:22 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A historical milestone? > Reflections on class and race in America > 7 November 2008 > > It is striking that the American media, beginning on election night

Obama election an historical milestone? Reflections on class and race in America

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
A historical milestone? Reflections on class and race in America 7 November 2008 It is striking that the American media, beginning on election night and continuing in the aftermath of the vote, has been virtually unanimous in interpreting the victory of Barack Obama entirely in racial terms. This

Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
Not me... I will choose for myself where the bulk of my Wealth goes. Not you Loony Liberals. On Nov 6, 11:18 pm, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yup you better get a raise fish boy you are going to be supporting a > family of 12 Mexicans and one Canadian > > On Nov 6, 10:16 a

Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread mike [move on] 532
yup you better get a raise fish boy you are going to be supporting a family of 12 Mexicans and one Canadian On Nov 6, 10:16 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just making the point that he CHOSE to respond. > > Usually, those who have no interest don't waste the time. > > Guess you Loony Liber

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
Because it does not denote socialism you ignoramus. What does it feel like continually lying and making up things as you go along? Thats all you do. None of what you write is the result of coherent thought, but of defensive denail of an ideal that not only no longer exists but was a myth in the

Re: The results of yesterday's election bode well for the future of stem

2008-11-06 Thread mike [move on] 532
yes it is which is why we should be doing the research with all possible speed ! On Nov 6, 10:30 am, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The stem cell controversy is overblown, overbloated and overwhelmingly > misunderstood by dimwits. > > Google it. > > On Nov 6, 4:47 am, "mike [move on] 532"

Re: This was a LANDSLIDE watershed moment for America.

2008-11-06 Thread mike [move on] 532
urban myths ! which so called urban myth are talking ? On Nov 6, 9:30 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have to say because you are a True Believer of Urban Myths... > > On Nov 6, 2:23 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > are you really that un informed or a

Re: We are Now France

2008-11-06 Thread mike [move on] 532
that sums it up pretty well doesn't it ! On Nov 6, 12:12 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mike, > > Yeah, tough guys all. Alligator mouths and hummingbird balls. > > On Nov 6, 4:41 am, "mike [move on] 532" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > don't you just love it when people who hav

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
You have yet to address the basic point. Socialism is when the Government takes control of any given part of the Economy. We have had Socialist Programs in this Country for about 3/4 of a Century now. But you are unable to reconcile that FACT with your tripe. On Nov 6, 11:03 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
How stupid do you have to be to blame socialsim for the problems of capitalism. For a start Obama is the supposed socialist and he hasn't assumed power as yet. So you are blaming future so-called socialist policies for the past failures of capitalism. A five year old would have no difficulty in u

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
Another non answer from a political pygmy On Nov 7, 5:50 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Denying Socialism is the problem doesn't stop it from being the > problem... > > It just means you deny it. > > Ignorance is Bliss in your World it seems. > > On Nov 6, 10:43 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
Capitalist politics really is a sick joke. Lies ditortions bullshit, passing the buck and taking in trillions of tax payers money and stuffing it in their pockets. Do you know where your money goes? Its like a fucking black hole a vortex, nobody knows and then when the government says they dont ha

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
Denying Socialism is the problem doesn't stop it from being the problem... It just means you deny it. Ignorance is Bliss in your World it seems. On Nov 6, 10:43 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS. This will be impossible for you to accept as bourgeois politics is > about findi

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
No it is not you brain dead capitalist apologist. Under capitalism exchange takes place to satisfy profit, under Socialism it takes place to satisfy human need. Hence the names. Capitalism =the accumulation of capital as the priority, Socialism=Social need as the priorty. Its that simple Gaar. Al

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
I never considered you a friend holly, so you didn't make the list. I understand that ignorance is bliss in your little World. On Nov 6, 8:28 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gaar, > > Wouldn't it be the job of the FEC to ask Obama for proof of his > citizenship? Please correct me if

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
On Nov 6, 8:28 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't it be the job of the FEC to ask Obama for proof of his > citizenship? Please correct me if I'm wrong about that. What Law would they use to do that holly? Are you trying to tell me you don't believe a Citizen has standing in suc

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
Funny... Hawaii sealed his Records so that no one, except Obama himself, can see them. And you claim someone has in fact saw it and decided it was legit. Link please. You understand it is up to him to PROVE he is eligible, right? On Nov 6, 7:42 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
PS. This will be impossible for you to accept as bourgeois politics is about finding someone else to blame for past failures otherwise they would have to be honest a find that the fault is the failure of their own policies and of the system itself. Such honesty is impossible when you have lying sc

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
When the Government takes over or becomes part of any part of that "System" they are in fact using Socialist Ideals to do so. Regardless of your ignorance on the matter. On Nov 6, 10:35 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course to blame socialist policies is the height of stupi

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
Of course to blame socialist policies is the height of stupidity. And Gaar epitomises this stupidity as he repeats the same lies over and over again. There is no such thing as a socialist policy. The world operates under the frame work of capitalism. Exchange, production and distribution are carr

Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
Funny... The Company considers them partial owners, and rewards them for their ownership. They are free to Sell their share to the highest Bidder whenever they like. Again, your ignorance on the matter notwithstanding. On Nov 6, 10:31 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, I see... > > Onc

Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
Oh, I see... Once the Company has their money, that's when they become parasites. Fucking Idiot. On Nov 6, 8:52 pm, PhreedomPhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Always good to hear from the kiddies in the Pre-K.  Initial issues of > stock helps the company, trading stocks is nothing but speculati

Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
Funny, as Resources (money) is being taken out, it is falling like a rock. But I guess those Resources mean nothing to the Market... According to Phree. Seems the Market doesn't agree with him however. Imagine that. On Nov 6, 8:42 pm, PhreedomPhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speculating doe

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
I know the meaning holly, you obviously missed the point that I was making with it... Messiahs can make decrees, can they not? And since Obama is you and your's Messiah, one would think you would understand that anything he "promises" you is a "decree", get it? Probably not, but I don't care.

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
And now you have a young Ignorant Socialists to help you do nothing but insult as you both are unable to address ANY pertinent point made, and instead use nothing but insults in some silly ass attempt to make a point... And you still go on about Bush, as we all know that it is Clinton who was the

GMAC Leaves Individuals With $15 Billion of Car Lenders Junk........and the fat lady sings

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
GMAC Leaves Individuals With $15 Billion of Car Lenders Junk By Ari Levy and David Mildenberg Nov. 7 (Bloomberg) -- GMAC LLC may leave thousands of individuals on the hook for about $15 billion of junk-rated debt unless the auto and home lender finds a way to pay its bills. GMAC, the largest len

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
No. The Issue seems to be that you didn't understand Obama, as he went around making such statements that YOU are unable to support with your tripe, so yet again you need to make it about semantics. Imagine that. You are just as stupid and ignorant now as you were when you first came here. No

Re: The Fat Lady Still Hasn't Sung.....

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
You people understand nothing. America's most prosperous era was when business paid 75% tax and America was producing 5 out of 6 of the world's automobiles and 85% of the world's steel. The car and stell industry are on the brink of collapse and business pay bugger all in tax. GMAC has just lost

Re: San Marino

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
On Nov 6, 9:45 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It kind of makes me embarrassed that I waste a single keystroke on > him... This from someone who seems to believe insults are sufficient for a Rebuttal. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for bei

Re: Social Programs Never Work

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
In other words, you haven't got a CLUE about any of it, but you have an opinion anyway... Imagine that. Yes, I am sure you don't know, just as I am sure you dont know many basic things about Obama, yet you Voted to make him President. And you are proud of that. Kinda makes me sick to think you

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
Actually holly, it simply shows just how stupid and ignorant you Liberals are, that is all. On Nov 6, 8:29 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Travis, > > Just goes to show you what a massive fuck-up George Bush was. Pretty > much ANY Democrat would have won. > > On Nov 6, 8:36 pm, Travis

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
No. All he need do is Authorize` the release of the original, like John McCain did when his was questioned. Why is that so much to ask? On Nov 6, 8:28 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gaar, > > Wouldn't it be the job of the FEC to ask Obama for proof of his > citizenship? Please corr

Re: San Marino

2008-11-06 Thread You Can't Buy MI Water
I don't think he gets irony. It kind of makes me embarrassed that I waste a single keystroke on him... On Nov 7, 1:33 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > had the world's first democratically elected Communist government > which held power from 1945 to 1957. > > No reason for posted this li

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
Gaar, Name the decree, are you too stupid to know the meaning of the words you choose to use in your posts? What? You were hoping the rest of us were as stupid? Your saying such a decree exits IS the issue dumbass. On Nov 6, 2:32 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Asked and answered... > > Wh

San Marino

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
had the world's first democratically elected Communist government which held power from 1945 to 1957. No reason for posted this little tidbit, just find it amusing for some reason. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. Fo

Re: GAAR MOVES TO SAN MARINO ... IF THEY'll HAVE HIM

2008-11-06 Thread PhreedomPhan
I was email a copy of that. The politicians in the top shitting on the people below. It would be funny if it weren't so true, Travis. On Nov 5, 11:50�pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Phree: �You mean this one? > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:11 PM, PhreedomPhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread PhreedomPhan
Always good to hear from the kiddies in the Pre-K. Initial issues of stock helps the company, trading stocks is nothing but speculation. The "wealth" created is ephemeral and can blow away with the first breeze of downturn. Those making financial gain through speculating in stocks are parasites.

Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread PhreedomPhan
Speculating doesn't put resources into the system. It definitely doesn't produce wealth, not real wealth. It may produce cash for the speculating parasite to let them buy the wealth produced by others, but it doesn't produce wealth. You speak of ignorance? When I first encountered you, you kne

Re: Am I missing something?

2008-11-06 Thread PhreedomPhan
You aren't producing a damned thing. You're just skimming the wealth of those who produce it. You scream about welfare recipient but you are no better than they. Well, maybe in that you steal for yourself and they let the government do it for them. On Nov 6, 12:30�pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
Travis, Just goes to show you what a massive fuck-up George Bush was. Pretty much ANY Democrat would have won. On Nov 6, 8:36 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am with you.  The libtards would have taken anything that could breathe > that was not a Republican for their messiah this time.

Re: USA is now the Obamanation Illuminati (see video too)

2008-11-06 Thread PhreedomPhan
Sorry, Travis, but this is worthless without a source. Rick On Nov 6, 8:33 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From:  Travis > > - > From: Stumpy Steve > Date: Wed, Nov 5, 2008 > Subject:  USA is now the Obamanation Illuminati (see video too) > >    We Will Watch Obama Like A Hawk > > Posted

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
Gaar, Wouldn't it be the job of the FEC to ask Obama for proof of his citizenship? Please correct me if I'm wrong about that. What the fuck do you want? Expect him to mail out 300 million certified copies of his fucking birth certificate? Ahhh, you don't consider me a friend? I'm crushed, boo-fu

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread You Can't Buy MI Water
He did provide one. Its online. You can view it if you want. A simple google search will bring it up. I doubt it will satisfy you though, you've made up your mind completely contrary to the evidence. On Nov 6, 11:54 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why does he not just provide the necessar

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread You Can't Buy MI Water
Dont even start with the "great liberators" pile of dogshit argument. If the Iraqi people wanted a violent, bloody, extended revolution to overthrow their oppressors they would've done it themselves, but the three major groups within couldn't all unify to do it themselves. So we did it for them.

Re: Liberals just don't get it...

2008-11-06 Thread Travis
The only "thing" that liberals ever "got" was a permanent case of oral diarrhea. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 6, 12:24 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The point is, it is a great example of a program that works that never

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
Gaar, I just LOVE the way you use the word "promoting", like bringing out a new brand of dish detergent or tennis shoe. Sooo much nicer than invading and occupying for an indefinate length of time. Cleaner, less bloody. On Nov 6, 8:11 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 6, 4:35 pm, OMS-

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
Gaar, You're amazing lad. One momemet you want to portray yourself as this political sophisticate, next you talk like an wide-eyed innocent straight off the farm wandering around awestruck by the tall buildings. A politicians concern is the people who with be either voting for him, or his oppone

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Travis
Why does he not just provide the necessary proof and clear this all up? HUH??? On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:42 PM, You Can't Buy MI Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Don't you think one of the many haters would be able to prove hes not > a citizen by now? You all have been raving for months abo

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread You Can't Buy MI Water
Don't you think one of the many haters would be able to prove hes not a citizen by now? You all have been raving for months about this, yet no one can prove it. You are very quick to dismiss the copy of his birth certificate that is floating around based on your arbitrary criteria as to what a leg

Re: Social Programs Never Work

2008-11-06 Thread You Can't Buy MI Water
Gaar, I spun nothing about your clinton comment. I just asked a question. Let me repost it: "What crime did Willy commit to be in front of a jury to begin with? And if you lie about an act that in itself was not a crime or part of a legitimate criminal investigation, is it obstruction of justice?

Re: Social Programs Never Work

2008-11-06 Thread You Can't Buy MI Water
I'm an agist? You just said I'm too young to be smart. You're an agist. On Nov 6, 8:47 pm, NavyBrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't care if Daffy Duck was running against McCain, I still > > wouldn't vote for man who was born before my old and out of touch > > parents. > >

Al Franken Speaks

2008-11-06 Thread Travis
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Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Travis
I am with you. The libtards would have taken anything that could breathe that was not a Republican for their messiah this time. Hell, they would have loved Huey Long. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If he proves to be Born in Kenya, he is not only not eligibl

Re: You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
If he proves to be Born in Kenya, he is not only not eligible, but he is an Illegal Alien and wouldn't be eligible to even Serve in the Senate. I can only Pray it can be proven he was Born in Kenya, and not in the States, and then I can be one of the first to demand that his Ass be Deported back

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
On Nov 6, 4:35 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 10 billion dollars a month in Iraq.when they are generating > billions in oil revenues. 50 Million People now living in Freedom abnd Democracy, where once Tyranny and Fascism Reigned Supreme... Your ignorance on the matter notwithstandi

You Liberal Idiots went after Bush for...

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
...His National Guard Records, but you refuse to ask Obama to PROVE he is eligible to be President by producing his Original Birth Certificate? Hm... Anyone wonder why? Bunch of Fucking Hypocritical Idiots is what these People are. I hope none of them wonder why I will never consider a sin

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
On Nov 6, 4:36 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know what, Gaar? Earmarks are pretty low on the to-do list right > now. Of course they are, since your guy is Guilty as Sin of them, and my guy has NEVER taken any... Imagine that, you want to dismiss the first thing I bring up because

Soviet Unions

2008-11-06 Thread Travis
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Re: and so it begins: U.S. Treasury teaches 'Islamic Finance 101'

2008-11-06 Thread mark
of course you libs have no problem turning our country into just another muslim state. you elected one to run the place. On Nov 6, 5:27 pm, studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 6, 5:16 pm, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > no one is bothered by this? > > No we're not bothered by it, as

Re: Marxism now to be called "Sustainable Capitalism"

2008-11-06 Thread mark
call a spade anything other than a spade, but it is still a spade. same with a marxist. call it what you will, but a marxist will always be a marxist. and we all gots one now, thanks to the fools in this country. On Nov 6, 7:09 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No. > > Another 4 years of ca

Re: Social Programs Never Work

2008-11-06 Thread NavyBrat
> I don't care if Daffy Duck was running against McCain, I still > wouldn't vote for man who was born before my old and out of touch > parents. * You are very young. And this post from you shows you are an agist. Your elders could

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread OMS-II
He was going to start by eliminating Legislative Earmarks, of which he has NEVER taken any. == You know what, Gaar? Earmarks are pretty low on the to-do list right now. On Nov 6, 6:38 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 6, 3:32 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread OMS-II
10 billion dollars a month in Iraq.when they are generating billions in oil revenues. I fart in your general direction. On Nov 6, 6:34 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $320 Million in earmarks for Obama in just the last Budget... > > $0 for McCain. > > On Nov 6, 3:23 pm, Hollywood <[EMA

Re: Liberals just don't get it...

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
On Nov 6, 12:24 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The point is, it is a great example of a program that works that never > would have been given a chance under a neo-con warhawk administration. > or one run by you. Sure they would, and have... Bush's Faith Based Initiati

Re: McCain Aides..."Palin Thought Africa Was a Country"

2008-11-06 Thread rigsy03
No doubt Palin had a lapse of memory considering the USA, Russia and Britain slaughtered the indigent populations of AK for pelts. On Nov 6, 5:59 pm, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is Africa anything but a mess? A land mess of diseased and violent > pastels. AK is pristine in comparison. >

Re: Marxism now to be called "Sustainable Capitalism"

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
No. Another 4 years of calling him Hitler, and the continued hate is what drives such things holly. And you are complaining after just a couple of days going after Obama for REAL stuff, and not the made up crap you go after Bush for? On Nov 6, 4:00 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ga

Re: Social Programs Never Work

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
On Nov 6, 1:34 pm, "You Can't Buy MI Water" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What crime did Willy commit to be in front of a jury to begin with? It doesn't matter. He was in front of a Jury because the SUPREME COURT said a U.S> Citizen could have their day in Court against the President. No surpri

Re: Marxism now to be called "Sustainable Capitalism"

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
gaar, So, you seem to agree that another 4 years of Bush's policies would indeed be something for the people of America, and the world, to fear? On Nov 6, 3:13 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your side tried to promote McCain as Bush and you want to blame others > for spreading fear? > >

Re: The Fat Lady Still Hasn't Sung.....

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
Yeah, but he isn't going to leave you alone. On Nov 6, 2:11 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But hang on for a second.  I give the libbies here grief over the idea > that Obama means instant relief/freedom/opportunity.  He doesn't and > that lies within the individual him/her self. > >

Re: McCain Aides..."Palin Thought Africa Was a Country"

2008-11-06 Thread rigsy03
Is Africa anything but a mess? A land mess of diseased and violent pastels. AK is pristine in comparison. On Nov 6, 5:26 pm, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obama splashed a lot more cash around than Sarah Palin's wardrobe. Get > real. > > On Nov 6, 5:21 pm, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: McCain Aides..."Palin Thought Africa Was a Country"

2008-11-06 Thread rigsy03
Wasn't Bush 43 faulted on some international question? Didn't he distain "nation building"? How did that work? On Nov 6, 12:40 pm, CaliforniaLuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tensions between McCain and Palin camps come to light > > McCain aides talk about the Republican vice presidential nominee

Re: The Messiah and Emanuel

2008-11-06 Thread Travis
Appointments to the Supreme Court are not as disasterous as it seems as if the obamunist gets as many as 3, those will simply replace 3 liberals already there. The danger is that they will be there forever. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:31 PM, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The latter earned

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
Sure, if your only concern is the State, and not the Union and doing your best for it... You have shown your true colors. It should make no one wonder why I would not want to be a fellow Countrymen with the likes of you. On Nov 6, 3:45 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gaar, > > Then

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
Gaar, Then obviously Obama did a much better job for the people of the state he represents than McCain did. :-) And no, I'm not taking this, or you seriously. The election is ovwer, your guy lost and your moving to San Marino. Fini. On Nov 6, 5:34 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $320 Mil

Re: Largest stock market drop in election history

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
I don't see it as tossing it away... I see it as preserving it from those who would come take it. I have been left with no choice. On Nov 6, 3:39 pm, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a couple of options with three of my children. Not sure I can > toss away what my parents and I held

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
Gaar, Ah well, you have to work with what you've got. On Nov 6, 5:30 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No holly, that was just a start... > > Trying to see if going over the specifics will be worth it. > > Will any Liberals discuss such things honestly. > > Obviously your not going to, so I

Re: Largest stock market drop in election history

2008-11-06 Thread rigsy03
I have a couple of options with three of my children. Not sure I can toss away what my parents and I held together all these years. I will mull it over the winter. On Nov 6, 5:10�pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The one's who can will leave, before things here get any worse than > they alrea

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
On Nov 6, 3:32 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's talk about how McCain had big plans to turn this country around. > Okay? Okay... He was going to start by eliminating Legislative Earmarks, of which he has NEVER taken any. So on that point he could lead by example. Not so much with

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
On Nov 6, 3:32 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bringing home the pork is something Senators do. So that is the "Change" you believe in? Since others do it, it is ok for Obama?!?!?!?! I thought Leaders led by example, like John McCain. My Bad. --~--~-~--~~~-

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
$320 Million in earmarks for Obama in just the last Budget... $0 for McCain. On Nov 6, 3:23 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gaar, > > So, McCain WOULD have just been more of Bush. More failure, more money > and lives poured down the drain you call Iraq. > > Kinda' depends on what you

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread OMS-II
Bringing home the pork is something Senators do. I respect John McCain, but I think he made a poor choice for VP. Furthermore, his economic policy was more of the same. We have been living with deregulation and lax oversight for quite some time now. The result? Worker wages have stagnated while CE

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
No holly, that was just a start... Trying to see if going over the specifics will be worth it. Will any Liberals discuss such things honestly. Obviously your not going to, so I will wait to see if others will. On Nov 6, 3:23 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gaar, > > So, McCain WOUL

Re: McCain Aides..."Palin Thought Africa Was a Country"

2008-11-06 Thread rigsy03
This was a year to slap women around. I wonder if they got the message? But- among my Obama voting friends, they like Sarah better than Biden. On Nov 6, 5:13 pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to know WHY Nicole Wallace doesn't woman-up and get her fat ass in > front of a camera a

Re: The Messiah and Emanuel

2008-11-06 Thread rigsy03
Thank you, CW. :-) On Nov 6, 5:15�pm, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is the most astute comment I have seen all day. �Obama campaigns on > CHANGE and then his first pick is a Washington insider with a reputation for > being an unyielding, partisan SOB. �Go figure... > > CW > > > > -

Re: McCain Aides..."Palin Thought Africa Was a Country"

2008-11-06 Thread rigsy03
Obama splashed a lot more cash around than Sarah Palin's wardrobe. Get real. On Nov 6, 5:21 pm, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This was a year to slap women around. I wonder if they got the > message? But- among my Obama voting friends, they like Sarah better > than Biden. > > On Nov 6, 5:1

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
Gaar, Neither were the guys I voted for. Actually you voted for one woman. That's a Yankee thing I think, calling everyonr "guys" regardless of gender. Fucking barbaric. On Nov 6, 5:15 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The guys I Voted for aren't/weren't Socialists. > > On Nov 6, 2:37 pm, OM

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Hollywood
Gaar, So, McCain WOULD have just been more of Bush. More failure, more money and lives poured down the drain you call Iraq. Kinda' depends on what you call "pork barrel spending", dosen't it? Did Obama try to get jobs and govt. spending projects for his state? Fuck yes, that's part of the job.

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread rigsy03
It is now normal for groups to "work" the system. That is not altruism. On Nov 6, 6:41 am, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that the reference to a "spirit of sacrifice" as refering to > a spirit where it is normal for people to put the interests of the > community, ahead of their

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
The guys I Voted for aren't/weren't Socialists. On Nov 6, 2:37 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really? Did you vote to give the Reps absolute power in '00, '02, and > '04? Did you hope for more of the same? > > It appears, Gaar, that you're more interested (and capable) in calling > peop

Re: The Messiah and Emanuel

2008-11-06 Thread Cold Water
That is the most astute comment I have seen all day. Obama campaigns on CHANGE and then his first pick is a Washington insider with a reputation for being an unyielding, partisan SOB. Go figure... CW - Original Message - From: "rigsy03" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PoliticalForum" Sent

Re: Class divisions begin to emerge in Obama coalition

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
McCain would only have continued Policies on the War. McCain, during his ENTIRE Political Career, has NEVER taken any pork barrel spending measure, and has railed against them. As Obama got over a $MILLION$ for EVERY DAY he has been in the Senate. That's one. Care to comment? On Nov 6, 2:37 

Re: McCain Aides..."Palin Thought Africa Was a Country"

2008-11-06 Thread Cold Water
I want to know WHY Nicole Wallace doesn't woman-up and get her fat ass in front of a camera and tell this pathetic and sexist tale instead of "leaking" this to Carl Cameron and others. This is the blame game at it's ugliest. I also don't understand how liberal woman don't see sexism when it

Re: Largest stock market drop in election history

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
The one's who can will leave, before things here get any worse than they already are. On Nov 6, 1:46 pm, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't you think Boomers will rebel? I do. It will suddenly occur to > them that their retirement is in jeopardy. > > On Nov 6, 2:32 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Largest stock market drop in election history

2008-11-06 Thread Gaar
The Market is forward looking... Your ignorance on the matter notwithstanding. On Nov 6, 2:25 pm, studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 6, 3:32 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Messiah has saved me from having a good retirement. > > > Thank you oh Mr. Messiah, S

US Stocks Tumble in Markets Worst Two Day Slump Since 1987

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
US Stocks Tumble in Markets Worst Two Day Slump Since 1987 By Lynn Thomasson Nov. 6 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks slid, sending the market to its biggest two-day slump since 1987, after jobless claims jumped and the shrinking economy crushed earnings at companies from Blackstone Group Inc. to News C

Obama selects White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.

2008-11-06 Thread "Lone Wolf"
Obama's selection for White House chief of staff—Rahm Emanuel, the chairman of the Democratic Caucus in the House of Representatives— gives an indication of the reactionary social types he is assembling for his administration. As a senior advisor to former President Bill Clinton, he championed law

Re: Terror attacks might be more likely ...

2008-11-06 Thread rigsy03
Pure supposition. On Nov 6, 4:43�pm, Philobealo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since B. Obama was Muslim the first few years of his life and is now > allegedly a Christian, that should make him particularly hated by the > Islamic fundamentalists. I understand that they consider that the > worst kin

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