[PoliticalForum] Re: A Christmas miracle

[Navybrat]

How stressful! But I'm glad those good people at least were able to give 
you back her ID so the Airlines wouldn't also be a stressful situation.

Take care...fucking thieves!

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 10:16:54 AM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:

> The wifey and I had dropped the varmints off in Barcelona and spent a few 
> days in Porto (the poor man's poor version of Barcelona) and Lisbon (the 
> middle class' version of Santarini). Yesterday we were leaving our 
> barely-above-average hotel to hit the metro and ultimately the airport.
>
> The wife notices her purse was unusually light, checks and yes, wifey's 
> wallet had been yanked out of her purse, and our flight left in 2.5 hours.  
> Frantic, we hailed a cab to the Po Policia.  The best they could do would 
> be to issue a declaration of stolen identity, something the airline might, 
> or might not, accept.  We were frantic.  A woman, maybe 40, walks in 
> quickly, frantic as well.  Not sure what was going on, but after a few 
> minutes, the Po Policia points in our direction.  She comes over.
>
> With the wallet!  It was stripped of all cash and credit cards, but 
> miraculously, wifey's ID (she's European, doesn't need the passport in 
> Europe) was still there!  After a few minutes, in comes her hubby and son, 
> they were just as concerned.  What a great bunch of folks, she had found 
> the wallet stuffed behind a flight of stairs, felt she had to get it to the 
> police ASAP.  It was a stroke of luck we were at the same station in 
> Lisbon.   They wouldn't take a cent, nothing, and they seemed genuinely as 
> happy as we were.
>
> Back in Barca now, pumped for the holidays and a two-day trip to Andorra 
> early next week.
>
> Life is good, hell, it's great.
>

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[PoliticalForum] Re: Merry Christmas Deplorables!

[Navybrat]

Merry Christmas Travis!

On Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 8:29:41 AM UTC-7, Travis wrote:
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[PoliticalForum] Merry Christmas to you all....

[Navybrat]

Hope it's a special one for you and yours. Here's to a New Year with hopes 
for a better direction for our country.

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[PoliticalForum] Congratulations Mr. President

[Navybrat]

*All Hail Trump!*
 Just messing with any leftist looneytunes who might be reading this...LOL!

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[PoliticalForum] Re: The nyets don't have it....

[Navybrat]

Putin's face says it all...LOL!

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 12:08:06 AM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:
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[PoliticalForum] Re: Divorce Agreement

[Navybrat]

Love it! Seen similar...but this one has a few new goodies...I'm sharing. 
:) Thanks!


On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 4:14:34 PM UTC-7, Perplexed wrote:

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> Got this in an email while ago; written by a law student...
>
> Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists,
> regressive, Marxists, and Obama supporters, et al:
>
> We have stuck together since the late 1950s for the sake of the kids,
> but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that
> I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for
> the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has
> clearly run its course.
>
> Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on
> what is right for us all, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We
> can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own
> way.
>
> Here is a model separation agreement:
>
> 1. Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass,
> each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I
> am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it
> should be relatively easy. Our respective representatives can
> effortlessly divide other assets since both sides had such distinct
> and disparate tastes.
>
> 2. We don't like redistributive taxes, so you can keep them.
>
> 3. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.
>
> 4. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the
> NRA, and the military.
>
> 5. We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind,
> solar, and bio-diesel.
>
> 6. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore, and Rosie O'Donnell. You are,
> however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to
> move all three of them.
>
> 7. We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical
> companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.
>
> 8. You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps,
> homeless homeboys, hippies, druggies, and illegal aliens.
>
> 9. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and Rednecks.
>
> 10. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood ..
>
> 11. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the
> right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.
>
> 12. You can have the peace-niks and war protesters. When our allies or
> our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.
>
> 13. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.
>
> 14. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political
> correctness, and Shirley McLain. You can also have the U.N., but we
> will no longer be paying the bill.
>
> 15. We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars.
> You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.
>
> 16. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing 
> doctors..
>
> 17. We'll continue to believe healthcare is an earned luxury and not a 
> right.
>
> 18. We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "The National Anthem."
>
> 19. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I'd Like to
> Teach the World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya," or "We Are the World".
>
> 20. We'll practice trickledown economics and you can continue to give
> trickle up poverty your best shot.
>
> 21. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name
> and our constitution and our flag.
>
> 22. Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other
> like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree,
> just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you
> answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John J. Wall
>
> Law Student and an American
>
> P.S.: Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara
> Streisand, and Jane Fonda with you.
>
> P.S.S..: And you won't have to "Press 1 for English" when you call our 
> country.
>
> Forward this every time you get it! Let's keep this going; maybe some
> of it will start sinking in!
>
> **If you can't stand behind our Military, please feel free to stand in
> front of them!
>
>
>

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[PoliticalForum] Re: Illegal to Criticize Islam

[Navybrat]

Unless we get a handle on it...coming to a community near you.

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 4:04:04 PM UTC-7, Bill wrote:
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> *In this mailing:*
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>- Judith Bergman: Europe: Illegal to Criticize Islam 
>- Ahmed Charai: Why Donald Trump Should Focus on Africa 
>- Raymond Ibrahim: Egypt's Deadliest Church Attack 
>
> Europe: Illegal to Criticize Islam 
>  
>
> by *Judith Bergman*  •  December 12, 2016 at 5:00 am
>
>- 
>
>While Geert Wilders was being prosecuted in the Netherlands for 
>talking about "fewer Moroccans" during an election campaign, a 
> state-funded 
>watchdog group says that threatening homosexuals with burning, 
> decapitation 
>and slaughter is just fine, so long as it is Muslims who are making those 
>threats, as the Quran tells them that such behavior is mandated.
>- 
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>"I am still of the view that declaring statistical facts or even 
>sharing an opinion is not a crime if someone doesn't like it." - Finns 
>Party politician, Terhi Kiemunki, fined 450 euros for writing of a 
> "culture 
>and law based on a violent, intolerant and oppressive religion."
>- 
>
>In Finland, since the court's decision, citizens are now required to 
>make a distinction, entirely fictitious, between "Islam" and "radical 
>Islam," or else they may find themselves prosecuted and fined for 
>"slandering and insulting adherents of the Islamic faith."
>- 
>
>As Turkey's president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, said, "These descriptions 
>are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no 
>moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that's it." There are 
>extremist Muslims and non-extremist Muslims, but there is only one Islam.
>- 
>
>It is troubling that Western governments are so eager to crack down on 
>anything that vaguely resembles what has erroneously been termed 
>"Islamophobia," which literally means an irrational fear of Islam.
>- 
>
>Considering the violence we have been witnessing, for those Westerners 
>who have studied Islam and listened to what the most influential Islamic 
>scholars have to say, there are quite a few things in Islam of which one 
>legitimately* ought* to be fearful.
>
> In Finland, Terhi Kiemunki, a Finns Party politician, was found guilty by 
> a court of "slandering and insulting adherents of the Islamic faith." 
> (Image source: YouTube video screenshot)
>
> Several European governments have made it clear to their citizens that 
> criticizing European migrant policies or migrants is criminally off-limits 
> and may lead to arrest, prosecution and even convictions. Although these 
> practices constitute police state behavior, European governments do not 
> stop there. They go still farther, by ensuring that Islam in general is not 
> criticized either.
>
> Finland is the European country most recently to adopt the way that 
> European authorities sanction those who criticize Islam. According to the 
> Finnish news outlet YLE, the Pirkanmaa District Court found the Finns Party 
> politician, Terhi Kiemunki, guilty of "slandering and insulting adherents 
> of the Islamic faith" in a blog post of *Uusi Suomi*. In it, she claimed 
> that all the terrorists in Europe are Muslims. The Court found that when 
> Kiemunki wrote of a "repressive, intolerant and violent religion and 
> culture," she meant the Islamic faith.
>
> *Continue Reading Article[image: 
> https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9525/europe-illegal-criticize-islam] 
> *
> Why Donald Trump Should Focus on Africa 
>  
>
> by *Ahmed Charai*  •  December 12, 2016 at 4:00 am
>
>- 
>
>President-elect Trump has the opportunity to make a historic course 
>correction, and to do so in a manner consistent with his administration's 
>stated goals. By renegotiating the U.S. African Growth and Opportunity 
> Act, 
>which was first initiated by the Clinton Administration, he can strengthen 
>American exports, create new export-related jobs and foster 
>development-oriented investment on the continent. By reforming U.S. 
>humanitarian aid to Africa, he can cut considerable bureaucratic waste, 
>effectively 

Re: [PoliticalForum] Getting the kids one of these for sure

[Navybrat]

Good to see you too Kam...

You'll quit when you are ready. I am only judgmental when I have to smell 
it...because I screwed my own lungs up and it's hurts to breath smoke . I 
did it to me...stupidest thing I ever did to myself.

I voted against the state trying to sock it to the smokers here yet again. 
It's bull shit.




On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:04:54 PM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:

> Good to see you Navy.  Agreed, after a meal, particularly after a drink, 
> it's tough.  I need to pitch them altogether, but I really like to tick 
> some people off about it it's worse than selling crack to toddlers 
> these days. 
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:32:22 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> Hiya  peeps :)
>>
>> I was a ddlong time smoker and took a few times to finally quit. The 
>> E-cig gets the most credit for helping me to get off the nicotine. But then 
>> cold turkey worked the very last time I quit. 
>> I don't miss the heavy chest feeling and the morning hacking. 
>> I do miss the taste after a meal...that was my favorite smoke time.  Now 
>> I'm a smoke Nazi. I get pissed off when I have to hold my breath for 20 
>> seconds trying to get into a store because the smokers are standing 10 feet 
>> from the entrance having one.
>> I like how I smell now. :)
>>
>> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:12:16 AM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:
>>
>>> I do it primarily to piss some folks off "You're a.a..SMOKER!"
>>>
>>> And there is something cool about telling the clerk "And a pack of 
>>> Luckys"
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 9:07:52 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> OMG, you're only the second person I've ever hears of who smoked 
>>>> Luckys. My mom was the other!
>>>>
>>>> My younger brother tells a story from time to time how on a physics 
>>>> test in high school there was an extra credit question and he was the only 
>>>> one who got it right. It was, "What does LSMFT mean"?
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 12:06:45 PM UTC-5, Kamakazee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still with the Luckys, but a pack lasts a week.
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Getting the kids one of these for sure

[Navybrat]

Hiya  peeps :)

I was a ddlong time smoker and took a few times to finally quit. The E-cig 
gets the most credit for helping me to get off the nicotine. But then cold 
turkey worked the very last time I quit. 
I don't miss the heavy chest feeling and the morning hacking. 
I do miss the taste after a meal...that was my favorite smoke time.  Now 
I'm a smoke Nazi. I get pissed off when I have to hold my breath for 20 
seconds trying to get into a store because the smokers are standing 10 feet 
from the entrance having one.
I like how I smell now. :)

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:12:16 AM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:

> I do it primarily to piss some folks off "You're a.a..SMOKER!"
>
> And there is something cool about telling the clerk "And a pack of Luckys"
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 9:07:52 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>>
>> OMG, you're only the second person I've ever hears of who smoked Luckys. 
>> My mom was the other!
>>
>> My younger brother tells a story from time to time how on a physics test 
>> in high school there was an extra credit question and he was the only one 
>> who got it right. It was, "What does LSMFT mean"?
>>
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 12:06:45 PM UTC-5, Kamakazee wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm still with the Luckys, but a pack lasts a week.
>>
>>

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[PoliticalForum] Re: They made me miss my train !!!

[Navybrat]

That was a lot of fun! Thanks for posting it. :)

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 7:43:03 PM UTC-7, Bill wrote:
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> wonderful.Love, Bill
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> MERRY CHRISTMAS 2016 and Happy New Year 2017 
> Subject: Fwd: They made me miss my train !!! 
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Re: [PoliticalForum] Yes, Ewen is trying to be the tweeting Donal Trump of PoliticalForum

[Navybrat]

Grandgirl Number 2 turns 9 December 10th. :) I can't believe how fast these 
kids are growing up! 
We have Christmas at my sons home. Hubby doesn't celebrate Christmas so I 
go to my daughters place on Christmas eve and we drink wine and laugh and 
bond while we make side dishes to take Christmas morning with us . Then 
it's a 45 minute drive to sons place where Gandgirls get to open gifts and 
we eat a nice meal . It's simple , but enjoyable. :)

You have a safe journey and wonderful holiday !

Si, we have the American Christmas this Sat.  I fly back into Houston on 
> Fri, up all night cooking that night.  The varmints open presents Sat 
> morning (sidenote-the 8 yr old is seriously challenging the existence of 
> the ho ho ho guy, so another year I'll be in the suit, breaking furniture 
> to wake her up to see that there really is a Santa), then off to Spain the 
> following Sat with sidetrips to Porto/Lisbon, Portugal and a skiing thing 
> in Andorra.  Back in Houston on the 4th and then the daughter/son come back 
> the following weekend for yet another Christmas.
>
> Life can't be better, hope all is well with your guys.  
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 7:00:42 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>
>> We are well...thanks. :)  Already done with the Christmas shopping. 
>> Looking forward to the New Year.
>> Hope you and yours are having a great season. Don't you go to Spain for 
>> Christmas?
>>
>> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:27:33 PM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:
>>
>>> Good to see you, hope things are well with you and yours
>>
>>

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Yes, Ewen is trying to be the tweeting Donal Trump of PoliticalForum

[Navybrat]

We are well...thanks. :)  Already done with the Christmas shopping. Looking 
forward to the New Year.
Hope you and yours are having a great season. Don't you go to Spain for 
Christmas?

On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:27:33 PM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:

> Good to see you, hope things are well with you and yours

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Re: [PoliticalForum] Yes, Ewen is trying to be the tweeting Donal Trump of PoliticalForum

[Navybrat]

Hiya Kamimiss your sense of humor. :(  The board's not near a fun 
without you.

On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 4:46:13 PM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:
>
> You're too analytical, you have to let art flow over you.
>
> PS.  Trumps is a middle finger to the world and its establishment. 
>
> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:40:41 PM UTC-6, euwe wrote:
>
>> Trump is finger painting on the free world.
>>
>> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 3:35:13 PM UTC-8, Kamakazee wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, that's what Trump says too, Ewen. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 4:47:33 PM UTC-6, euwe wrote:

 The members of this forum serve only as a canvas upon which I practice 
 my art.

 On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 12:16:50 PM UTC-8, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Hah!  
>
> With his side kick buffoon Sissy-Pus!
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Kamakazee  wrote:
>
>> Trump does it so much better though, but a guy needs a mentor I 
>> assume.
>>
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Re: Happy Birthday Brian Bednarek

[Navybrat]

Who? Sorry...I don't know Brian , but I wish him a great birthday!

On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 10:22:25 AM UTC-7, KeithInTampa wrote:
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> I hope everyone will take the time to wish member Brian "Brine" Bednarek a 
> Happy Birthday!  
>
> Get out today and do something fun, amusing and just for you today!
>
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Re: Dems are bitching about Trump not bringing the country together with his cabinet appointments.

[Navybrat]

I can see the heads exploding just reading it! LOL...that would be 
hilarious!

On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 8:48:21 PM UTC-7, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> LOL, that's rich. After 4 years of the most racist attorney general in 
> history, he appointed another just like him, and she also happens to be a 
> sleazy, world class liar.
>
> Despite this, I came up with something Trump can do to gain favor with the 
> democrats. They spent billions on green energy with the so-called 
> "stimulus", right? And Trump has no intention of continuing to subsidize 
> the greenies.
>
> So what if he told them he wants 3K miles of solar panels to electrify the 
> border fence with high voltage? Now that's diplomacy!
>

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Re: A "must read" article if you missed it: An analysis of the alt-right

[Navybrat]

Worth the read. Thankyou for psoting this. I'm ma gonna share!

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 10:52:23 AM UTC-7, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> I read this a few months ago after Hillary Clinton gave her idiotic speech 
> about the alt-right; found this just searching for info about it.
>
> It's fascinating, actually. And the best description of not only the 
> alt-right, but how and why each faction of it came about. And it absolutely 
> destroys the SJW left, but with facts and reality that is indisputable. The 
> only thing missing is some sort of calculation with regards to the numbers 
> of Americans who fall into this category. Judging from the election 
> results, I'd say that number is many more millions than we think.
>
> Everyone - regardless of their political bent - should read it. The 
> questions and observations - especially those that expose the hypocrisy of 
> the so-called "progressives" are things most of us have noticed and have 
> commented on for years.
>
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/
>
>
>

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Re: Is today the day that Hillary/Obama/Sanders call for the violent protests to stop?

[Navybrat]

They're loving this!

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 6:54:36 AM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:
>
> What?  After Thanksgiving but before Christmas?  
>
> Weird. 
>

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Re: So what if we could "revote?"

[Navybrat]

that's exactly right. 

Left wingnut losers.

On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 11:22:01 AM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:

> After all the riots and protest, Trumpie would win by a landslide.
>
> This crap is exactly why folks like me voted for him.
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Re: [grendelreport] Knock Knock

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I wish!

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Re: Hiya Guys!

[Navybrat]

I sold the truck and got a Honda Fit Sport with Navigation. It's been a 
blast tooling around in it all week. Been putting through the paces a bit. 
Drove into the foot hills and it did great. 
I'm loving having a car after 22 years of having a van, then a truck.

My DIL had a Murano and it was a cool car. I wanted one...but they were 
more money than I wanted a payment with.
Hubs is retiring soon...I'm worry about us being around each other too 
much. I'm sure there must be an adjustment period. I hope he finds some fun 
hobbies that get him out of the house ( and my space) here and there. ;)

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 3:45:09 PM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:

> But onto better things, how is the truck running?
>
> Looking at getting a new car in the spring, the Murano has about 135k on 
> it, wife refuses to even drive it.  It's paid off, dammit!!  I've been 
> consulting from the house for the last year and all my clients are out of 
> the US, so it's not like I'm going to work everyday.  My wife works from 
> the house too and we haven't killed each other.  There was a time when I 
> moved my office upstairs.  Her office is up there too. 
>
> I lasted less than half a day. 
>
>
>>>

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Re: Holy cow...Chrissy Matthews spelled out why Hillary Clinton lost

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Wow! I'm sharing this!   I've never seem Matther's go for the throat of his 
own

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 1:06:39 PM UTC-7, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> And left Rachel Maddow speechless
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXxGPDBRUzs
>
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Re: Hiya Guys!

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On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 7:18:20 PM UTC-7, fed up wrote:

Wish I could vote your post upyou're spot on!

 

> The real reason they are crying is because the pussification of America 
> has been suspended for the time being.  The protesters have no idea what 
> they are even protesting.  I can guarantee the average IQ in those mobs is 
> around 80.  They truly believe you can protest an election.  Proof positive 
> that progressives are complete and utter morons.  
>
> *Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid*
> On Nov 10, 2016 9:03 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Perp!
>
> Yeah...they're so ridiculous. And those protestersOwies redux. 
> I just want to bitch slap them all into some form of normal consciousness. 
> lol...  Problem is...as you pointed out...they are so clueless and have 
> been for so long ..lobotomies  would be better.
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 6:56:18 PM UTC-7, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> Hi Navy! I couldn't agree more; I also pretty much gave up hope for this 
> country when it elected Obama a second time.
>
> A new day is dawning in America, and it feels GREAT!
>
> I admit to enjoying the hell out of seeing all of these sobbing, 
> screeching lefties scream about how terrorized they are. They're too 
> fucking clueless to grasp that we were even more devastated in 2008 and 
> especially in 2012, but with actual reason.
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:29:20 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>
> I know...been awhile.! I'm still celebrating the wringing of hands and 
> tears. lol...I mean seriously. I know how devastated I was when Obama got a 
> second term...just couldn't believe the country was that stupid!
>
> But I didn't cry like a pussy . Which is exactly was libs are...ginormous 
> pussies .   
>
> I do hope that Trump gets the support he needs to get some serious change 
> accomplished. 
>
> Start with picking apart that stupid ass  ACA. It's been a night mare for 
> anyone who actually pays into it.
>
> Hope you are all well. I'm doing extra great these days. It's a new 
> dawning and I truly hope What the country has done this cycle makes a 
> difference in the direction we've been dragged for 8 years.. 
>
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Re: Hiya Guys!

[Navybrat]

Kami...so are you on actual banning now?



On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 7:28:13 PM UTC-7, Navybrat wrote:

> No argument here. I'm just waiting for the floods from the tears to wash 
> away some left leaning states...then we'll carpetbag em! ;)
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 7:18:20 PM UTC-7, fed up wrote:
>>
>> The real reason they are crying is because the pussification of America 
>> has been suspended for the time being.  The protesters have no idea what 
>> they are even protesting.  I can guarantee the average IQ in those mobs is 
>> around 80.  They truly believe you can protest an election.  Proof positive 
>> that progressives are complete and utter morons.  
>>
>> *Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid*
>> On Nov 10, 2016 9:03 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Perp!
>>
>> Yeah...they're so ridiculous. And those protestersOwies redux. 
>> I just want to bitch slap them all into some form of normal 
>> consciousness. lol...  Problem is...as you pointed out...they are so 
>> clueless and have been for so long ..lobotomies  would be better.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 6:56:18 PM UTC-7, Perplexed wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Navy! I couldn't agree more; I also pretty much gave up hope for this 
>> country when it elected Obama a second time.
>>
>> A new day is dawning in America, and it feels GREAT!
>>
>> I admit to enjoying the hell out of seeing all of these sobbing, 
>> screeching lefties scream about how terrorized they are. They're too 
>> fucking clueless to grasp that we were even more devastated in 2008 and 
>> especially in 2012, but with actual reason.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:29:20 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> I know...been awhile.! I'm still celebrating the wringing of hands and 
>> tears. lol...I mean seriously. I know how devastated I was when Obama got a 
>> second term...just couldn't believe the country was that stupid!
>>
>> But I didn't cry like a pussy . Which is exactly was libs are...ginormous 
>> pussies .   
>>
>> I do hope that Trump gets the support he needs to get some serious change 
>> accomplished. 
>>
>> Start with picking apart that stupid ass  ACA. It's been a night mare for 
>> anyone who actually pays into it.
>>
>> Hope you are all well. I'm doing extra great these days. It's a new 
>> dawning and I truly hope What the country has done this cycle makes a 
>> difference in the direction we've been dragged for 8 years.. 
>>
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Re: Hiya Guys!

[Navybrat]

No argument here. I'm just waiting for the floods from the tears to wash 
away some left leaning states...then we'll carpetbag em! ;)

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 7:18:20 PM UTC-7, fed up wrote:
>
> The real reason they are crying is because the pussification of America 
> has been suspended for the time being.  The protesters have no idea what 
> they are even protesting.  I can guarantee the average IQ in those mobs is 
> around 80.  They truly believe you can protest an election.  Proof positive 
> that progressives are complete and utter morons.  
>
> *Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid*
> On Nov 10, 2016 9:03 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Perp!
>
> Yeah...they're so ridiculous. And those protestersOwies redux. 
> I just want to bitch slap them all into some form of normal consciousness. 
> lol...  Problem is...as you pointed out...they are so clueless and have 
> been for so long ..lobotomies  would be better.
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 6:56:18 PM UTC-7, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> Hi Navy! I couldn't agree more; I also pretty much gave up hope for this 
> country when it elected Obama a second time.
>
> A new day is dawning in America, and it feels GREAT!
>
> I admit to enjoying the hell out of seeing all of these sobbing, 
> screeching lefties scream about how terrorized they are. They're too 
> fucking clueless to grasp that we were even more devastated in 2008 and 
> especially in 2012, but with actual reason.
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:29:20 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>
> I know...been awhile.! I'm still celebrating the wringing of hands and 
> tears. lol...I mean seriously. I know how devastated I was when Obama got a 
> second term...just couldn't believe the country was that stupid!
>
> But I didn't cry like a pussy . Which is exactly was libs are...ginormous 
> pussies .   
>
> I do hope that Trump gets the support he needs to get some serious change 
> accomplished. 
>
> Start with picking apart that stupid ass  ACA. It's been a night mare for 
> anyone who actually pays into it.
>
> Hope you are all well. I'm doing extra great these days. It's a new 
> dawning and I truly hope What the country has done this cycle makes a 
> difference in the direction we've been dragged for 8 years.. 
>
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Re: Hiya Guys!

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Hi Perp!

Yeah...they're so ridiculous. And those protestersOwies redux. 
I just want to bitch slap them all into some form of normal consciousness. 
lol...  Problem is...as you pointed out...they are so clueless and have 
been for so long ..lobotomies  would be better.

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 6:56:18 PM UTC-7, Perplexed wrote:

>
> Hi Navy! I couldn't agree more; I also pretty much gave up hope for this 
> country when it elected Obama a second time.
>
> A new day is dawning in America, and it feels GREAT!
>
> I admit to enjoying the hell out of seeing all of these sobbing, 
> screeching lefties scream about how terrorized they are. They're too 
> fucking clueless to grasp that we were even more devastated in 2008 and 
> especially in 2012, but with actual reason.
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:29:20 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> I know...been awhile.! I'm still celebrating the wringing of hands and 
>> tears. lol...I mean seriously. I know how devastated I was when Obama got a 
>> second term...just couldn't believe the country was that stupid!
>>
>> But I didn't cry like a pussy . Which is exactly was libs are...ginormous 
>> pussies .   
>>
>> I do hope that Trump gets the support he needs to get some serious change 
>> accomplished. 
>>
>> Start with picking apart that stupid ass  ACA. It's been a night mare for 
>> anyone who actually pays into it.
>>
>> Hope you are all well. I'm doing extra great these days. It's a new 
>> dawning and I truly hope What the country has done this cycle makes a 
>> difference in the direction we've been dragged for 8 years.. 
>>
>

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Re: Hiya Guys!

[Navybrat]

Thanks Keith...sorry..I'm terrible I know!

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:23:34 PM UTC-7, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Good to see you Mrs. Navy, and yeppers!  Many of us are feeling a sense of 
> renewal with the outcome of the election!
>
> Don't be such a stranger!
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Kamakazee <mscot...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Dudette!
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:29:20 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>>
>>> I know...been awhile.! I'm still celebrating the wringing of hands and 
>>> tears. lol...I mean seriously. I know how devastated I was when Obama got a 
>>> second term...just couldn't believe the country was that stupid!
>>>
>>> But I didn't cry like a pussy . Which is exactly was libs 
>>> are...ginormous pussies .   
>>>
>>> I do hope that Trump gets the support he needs to get some serious 
>>> change accomplished. 
>>>
>>> Start with picking apart that stupid ass  ACA. It's been a night mare 
>>> for anyone who actually pays into it.
>>>
>>> Hope you are all well. I'm doing extra great these days. It's a new 
>>> dawning and I truly hope What the country has done this cycle makes a 
>>> difference in the direction we've been dragged for 8 years.. 
>>>
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Re: Hiya Guys!

[Navybrat]

Hi Kami!

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:23:53 PM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:
>
> Dudette!
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:29:20 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> I know...been awhile.! I'm still celebrating the wringing of hands and 
>> tears. lol...I mean seriously. I know how devastated I was when Obama got a 
>> second term...just couldn't believe the country was that stupid!
>>
>> But I didn't cry like a pussy . Which is exactly was libs are...ginormous 
>> pussies .   
>>
>> I do hope that Trump gets the support he needs to get some serious change 
>> accomplished. 
>>
>> Start with picking apart that stupid ass  ACA. It's been a night mare for 
>> anyone who actually pays into it.
>>
>> Hope you are all well. I'm doing extra great these days. It's a new 
>> dawning and I truly hope What the country has done this cycle makes a 
>> difference in the direction we've been dragged for 8 years.. 
>>
>

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Re: On the upside Hillary can finally dump Bill for Huma

[Navybrat]

LOL...prolly the last one she'll ever get.
On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 1:09:55 PM UTC-7, Kamakazee wrote:
>
> Hillary finally gets a Weiner
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Hiya Guys!

[Navybrat]

I know...been awhile.! I'm still celebrating the wringing of hands and 
tears. lol...I mean seriously. I know how devastated I was when Obama got a 
second term...just couldn't believe the country was that stupid!

But I didn't cry like a pussy . Which is exactly was libs are...ginormous 
pussies .   

I do hope that Trump gets the support he needs to get some serious change 
accomplished. 

Start with picking apart that stupid ass  ACA. It's been a night mare for 
anyone who actually pays into it.

Hope you are all well. I'm doing extra great these days. It's a new dawning 
and I truly hope What the country has done this cycle makes a difference in 
the direction we've been dragged for 8 years.. 

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Re: The Clinton Foundation encouraged foreign companies to ignore (and break) US patent and intellectual property laws.

[Navybrat]

Corruption at it's worse. I don't think I could hate this woman more

On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 8:19:01 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> And even the New York Times admitted it. I came across this in researching 
> the recent allegations that the Clinton Foundation used an Indian drug 
> manufacturer that is prohibited from selling drugs in the US due to its 
> known horrific lack of quality. This was from 2007:
>
> Clinton Foundation Announces a Bargain* on Generic AIDS Drugs 
>
> By CELIA W. DUGGER MAY 9, 2007 
>
> Former President Bill Clinton announced yesterday that his foundation had 
> negotiated deep price reductions for generic versions of costly, 
> second-line AIDS 
> 
>  
> drugs needed when the original medicines fail, as well as for less toxic, 
> easier-to-use first-line medicines combined in a pill that can be taken 
> once a day.
>
>
> Standing next to Thailand 
> ’s
>  
> health minister, Mr. Clinton also forcefully endorsed recent decisions by 
> Thailand and Brazil 
> 
>  
> to break patents held by American pharmaceutical companies that are 
> charging prices Mr. Clinton described as exorbitant, but that drug company 
> officials said were reasonable.
>
> “No company will live or die because of high price premiums for AIDS drugs 
> in middle-income countries, but patients may,” he said.
>
>
> The new prices would halve the cost of the drugs for better-off developing 
> countries in Latin America and Asia and cut prices by 25 percent in poor 
> countries, which were already paying lower prices, the foundation said. The 
> second-line medicines will be bought with more than $100 million raised by 
> a group of countries led by France. The improved first-line therapies will 
> largely be financed by the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and 
> Malaria and other donors.
>
>
> Second-line drugs have typically cost about 10 times as much as first-line 
> therapies. Costs have ballooned in Brazil and Thailand, which began 
> programs to provide universal access to AIDS treatment years before African 
> countries did, as patients have developed resistance to generic first-line 
> treatments and have moved to brand-name second-line drugs.
>
>
> The Clinton Foundation’s willingness to buy the generic drugs from the 
> Indian manufacturers Cipla and Matrix will give developing countries 
> leverage in bargaining with American companies for lower prices on branded 
> antiretroviral drugs and may embolden some to follow Brazil and Thailand in 
> overriding patents, AIDS activists said.
>
>
> But developing countries still have reason to worry about retaliation from 
> drug companies and trade sanctions by the United States. This year, Abbott 
> Laboratories, based in Illinois, withdrew new drugs, including those for 
> high blood pressure 
> 
>  
> and AIDS, that it had planned to introduce in Thailand until the override 
> on Abbott’s patent on the second-line drug, Kaletra.
>
>
> United States trade officials last week put Thailand on a watch list for 
> countries inadequately safeguarding the intellectual property rights of 
> American companies, noting the overriding of drug patents.
>
>
> Tido von Shoen-Angerer, who leads the campaign by Doctors Without Borders 
> for access to medicines, said he was unsure whether the recent developments 
> would encourage developing countries to exercise their rights under 
> international trade rules more freely to make or import generic drugs.
>
> “There’s a strong chilling effect from the U.S. action,” he said.
>
>
> Drug company officials yesterday strongly defended their policies of 
> charging better-off developing countries more for AIDS drugs than they did 
> for poor countries, as well as the role of patents, which give inventor 
> companies a monopoly on the sale of a drug, in stimulating the development 
> of new drugs.
>
>
> Jennifer Smoter, a spokeswoman for Abbott, said patents were needed “to 
> ensure innovation in the future” but declined to respond to Mr. Clinton’s 
> comment that “Abbott has been almost alone in its hard-line position here 
> over what I consider to be a life and death matter.”
>
>
> Abbott had been charging $2,200 annually per patient for Kaletra in 
> middle-income developing countries, which include India, China, Brazil and 
> Ukraine. Last month, it dropped the price to $1,000. The foundation’s new 
> price for the generic is $695.
>
>
> Jeffrey L. Sturchio, a vice president at Merck 
> 

Re: Actor James Woods obliterates Hillary on Twitter

[Navybrat]

LOVE this! did you read the comments? Gives me hope for this country!

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 6:48:29 AM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
>
> Hillary Clinton *✔* @HillaryClinton  
>
> Donald Trump looks at women and decides how their looks rate on a scale of 
> one to 10.
> 10:03 AM - 16 Sep 2016 
> 
>
>
>- Retweets *2,202* 
>- Likes *3,537* 
>
>
> James Woods *✔* @RealJamesWoods  
>
> And your husband usually looks at the tops of their heads. #DickingBimbos 
>  https://
> twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/776783575375028224 … 
> 
> 2:19 AM - 17 Sep 2016 
> 
>
>
>- 2,382 Retweets 
>
>- 4,219 Likes
>
>
>
> The hashtag is a reference to Colin Powell’s leaked email where he guessed 
> that Bill Clinton was busy “still dicking bimbos at home.”
>
> Read more: 
> http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/19/james-wood-brings-up-bill-clintons-past-after-hillary-clinton-calls-trump-sexist/#ixzz4KzJjI8lz
>
> Bravo!
>
>
>

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Re: At the very least, Trump's immigration policy should include this

[Navybrat]

Spot on!

 Progressives are the bane of a civil society.I swear I've never met a 
group that are so intolerant , yet demand everyone else toe the line. It's 
been a harsh reality to deal with. 

On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 4:30:26 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:

>
> It cracks me up that liberals can read the Preamble and claim that is what 
> allows the federal government to tax and provide every single welfare and 
> entitlement program on the planet, but not to provide national security, 
> which, by definition, includes border security and selective immigration.
>
> On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 4:09:38 PM UTC-4, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> This is at least the third time I have done this for you.  I will go 
>> through and specifically list for you in the Constitution, as well as other 
>> Documents as I have done previously.Once again, I encourage you to 
>> bookmark this message, and take the time to research it.
>>
>> Let's start with the Preamble to the Constitution, which states:
>>
>> "*We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect 
>> Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the 
>> common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of 
>> Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this 
>> Constitution for the United States of America.*"
>>
>> That whole, "*[I]Insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common 
>> defense, promote the general welfare and secure the Blessings of Liberty*" 
>> is an excellent starting point and should be taken to heart!  Securing our 
>> borders is not only requisite to regulate fiscal responsibility, it is also 
>> needed to maintain national security!  We need to know who is in our 
>> Nation, at any given time.  We as Americans have an inherent right to 
>> expect this because these rights are integral to our nature. We expect this 
>> in America because as you well know, the Constitution was written both to 
>> restrain the federal government from interfering with natural rights, as 
>> well as to collectively provide "*a common defense*" for its citizenry! 
>>
>> What had once been a State regulatory power under the Articles of 
>> Confederation, and something tha was agreed upon by both the Federalists 
>> and Anti-Federalists, was the dominion, control and regulation of 
>> immigration and naturalization.  There was virtually no opposition to 
>> moving the immigration and naturalization powers from the States to the new 
>> national government,  (*See* Federalist No. 32);
>>
>> In Article 1, § 8, Clause 4, which states in part:
>>
>> *“The Congress shall have Power To...establish a uniform Rule of 
>> Naturalization"*
>>
>>
>> Just as important, The “Non-Importation” clause in Article I, § 9, which 
>> provides: 
>>
>> *“The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now 
>> existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the 
>> Congress prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight.” *
>>
>> The negative inference from this clause is that the Congress would 
>> eventually have a power to prohibit immigration.  The federal government 
>> had always given a great deal of leeway to the individual States to control 
>> naturalization of immigrants, (which as pointed out above, the Articles of 
>> Confederation granted solely to the individual States!)  despite the 
>> authority that the U.S. Congress had been granted in Article I, § 8 of the 
>> Constitution. 
>>
>> The Framers also instilled the Congress (as you well know!) in Article 
>> 1, §8 Clause 18:
>>
>> *“To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into 
>> Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this 
>> Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department 
>> or Officer thereof”.*
>> (Emphasis Added)
>>
>> The Supreme Court has in the past tacitly acknowledged the “federal 
>> power” (*e.g*.; the Congress) over immigration via the Commerce Clause 
>> in Article I, § 8, Clause 3, of the Constitution which provides Congress 
>> with the power:
>>
>> *"[T]o regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several 
>> States." *
>>
>> After the War between the States, members of one class of “immigrants”; 
>> *e.g*.; African American slaves; were never granted citizenship in the 
>> states that permitted slavery. Moreover, many other States that had not 
>> permitted slavery also restricted citizenship to Black slaves. Because no 
>> slaves were legally imported after 1808, all Black people born in the 
>> United States after that date were "secondary immigrants".  Thus, the 14th 
>> Amendment, which Congress inherently had the dominion to craft and 
>> subsequently grant; which states in part:
>>
>> "*All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to 
>> the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the 
>> State wherein they reside. No 

Re: Remember the poster known as "Ghost"?

[Navybrat]

Thanks for the info Perp. I'm so sorry to her this. 

Would you write me at  my email dotis2...@comcast.com? I reached out to you 
on another board before Crick told me to come here.

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 10:35:47 AM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:

>
> He posted on the ABC board and on Euwedopia for years. A few of us met 
> years ago down in Cincinnati for lunch and then he and I met for lunch 
> about 4 years ago as he was passing through Indianapolis. We used to talk 
> on the phone from time to time as well.
>
> I hadn't heard from him or called him in about a year, and decided to do 
> so today and learned that he'd passed away last December. He was only 53.
>
> He was a very nice man with a big heart. He was a veteran (US Army). And 
> he left behind a young daughter who is probably about college age by now. I 
> have no details as to why he passed.
>
> It sucks when you lose contact with friends and find out it's too late to 
> check in with them from time to time. :(
>
> I just thought some here and on Euwedopia might want to know.
>

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Re: Melania vs Michelle

[Navybrat]

Thanks Keith...these will come in handy.
On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 2:12:20 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Well, since Plain Ol' decided to bring up the "Class" of the First Lady's; 
>  then I guess it's fair to talk about President Obama's mother, the now 
> deceased "First Mom".   She too was a class act:
>
>
> The Photographer, avowed Communist Frank Marshall Davis is purportedly 
> Barack Obama's father, and thus the reason the American public has never 
> seen the "Real" birth certificate:
>
>
> ​
>
> As far as "Class" between Michelle Obama and Melania TrumpI really 
> don't think it's all that close:
>
>
>
>
> ​​
> ​​
> ​
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:27 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
> politic...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>
>> When you cite the source, it's not plagiarism. When you don't - even if 
>> you don't copy it exactly, but rather do so substantially (which whoever 
>> wrote Melania Trump's speech most definitely did), it's plagiarism.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 1:25:43 PM UTC-4, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Perp!
>>>
>>> YeaWe fundamentally disagree here.  I can remember  back in law 
>>> school, there was a big "To-Do" about plagerism; where the class 
>>> participants had worked on their projects for months, and the day that we 
>>> were to turn them in, the Professor refused to take them, and gave each 
>>> participant an extra day to ensure that there was no plagerism.   I was not 
>>> at all concerned,  I hadn't plagerized anything but I remember asking the 
>>> question:  "What constitutes Plagerism?" 
>>>
>>> By example, if I refer to reports from CBS News; and say, "*Dan Rather 
>>> from CBS News reported the following:"*
>>>
>>> Is that plagerism? Surely other individuals have said the same identical 
>>> lines before me and will no doubt say something similar in the future.
>>>
>>> When you listen to what Melania Trump said, (and by the way, none of 
>>> Melania's  sentences run concurrently to Michelle Obama's speech); these 
>>> are common terms utilized by a host of politicians and probably each and 
>>> every First Lady over our entire history.  
>>>
>>> I honestly don't think that this is plagerism.  Even assuming for a 
>>> moment that the speech writer had reviewed Michelle Obama's 2008 speech 
>>> prior to writing the speech for Melania;  there is enough distinction, 
>>> coupled with the fact that the core comments are sentiments that all 
>>> Americans embrace, both Democratic and Republican alike;  that I see this 
>>> more as an attack by the Secular Progressive camp and a weak one at 
>>> that.Much ado, about nothing.
>>>
>>> It's a shame, because the focus now is off the focus of Melania Trump's 
>>> speech, which was a good speech, and now focused on plagerism, which was 
>>> the goal of the Secular Progressive camp.  They succeeded.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvVMV9aUbE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:40 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
>>> politic...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>

 Did you see on the news where they played both audio tracks over each 
 other ... her speech writers screwed the pooch on this one!!!

 They need to get better and politically savvy people on their team!!!
 

 I agree totally, brine. This dumbass JV team they've got going is going 
 to screw up one too many times (which they are quickly approaching) and 
 lose this election that is his to win.

 On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 11:14:29 AM UTC-4, brine wrote:
>
> Did you see on the news where they played both audio tracks over each 
> other ... her speech writers screwed the pooch on this one!!!
>
> They need to get better and politically savvy people on their team!!!
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Keith In Tampa  
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed! 
>>
>> I too think it's a stretch to accuse Melania Trump (and her speech 
>> writer(s)) of plagerismI find it ironic, somewhat humorous, and 
>> typical 
>> of Far Left Secular Progressives to hurl such accusations, when you 
>> consider that the President, and crazy Uncle Joe Biden are the Kings of 
>> plagerizing speeches!  
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 10:41 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> While the MSM and left are focusing on generic phrases that most 
>>> people would use in such a speech, the major distinction is being 
>>> missed.  
>>> Michelle, a US born citizen only became proud of America when her 
>>> husband 
>>> was nominated and elected.  Melania became a US citizen in 2006 and 
>>> loudly 
>>> proclaims its the best place on the earth. Honest and refreshing. She 
>>> will 
>>> be a class act first lady.  
>>>
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Re: That crazy bitch is still lying about her damn emails!

[Navybrat]

Because they're hypocritical, delusional asswipes. It's all about the power 
to them. That's it.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 12:34:02 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/19/hillary-admits-email-scandal-hurt-her/
>
> OMG there is simply no end to this woman's lies!
>
> She actually claims at the end she did nothing more than previous 
> Secretaries of State had done and blamed it on her subordinates. She also 
> claims that Comey clarified remarks in his testimony to Congress that she 
> seems to think resulted in him saying she wasn't "extremely careless".
>
> How can democrats vote for such a deluded, lying POS???
>

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Re: OMG, John Kerry actually "went there"

[Navybrat]

Yeah...tensions are just going to get worse as we get closer to Nov. I 
already record my programs so I don't have to listen to the bs commercials 
( or Hillary's skin crawling voice!) and I don't answer my phone and delete 
anything quickly that is a robo call.
On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 10:41:01 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> Good for you Navy. If she ever brings up the conversation again (or 
> politics), you should tell her what you chalked it up to - her skin 
> crawling at the thought of voting for 4 more years of the shit we've seen 
> from Obama. :)
>
> Last night I spent almost 3 hours on the phone with a friend from high 
> school who was apparently drinking something strong while we were talking. 
> Because she was totally sober when she first called and drunk as hell by 
> the time we hung up, lol. Anyway, it got a bit heated too - as soon as we 
> got onto politics towards the end of the conversation. What's weird is that 
> she has been a republican her entire life while I hadn't voted for one 
> since Reagan until 2008. She's planning on voting for Trump, but we still 
> don't see some things the same (like the cop killings, for example). I've 
> lived in a metro area with 1+ million people for 30 years, while she 
> remained in the very small rural town of 4K people I'd gone to high school 
> in. So needless to say we have very different vantage points. For one 
> thing, I'm not on a first name basis with every cop in the county, lol. 
>
> I just think most of us on the right know just how serious this election 
> is and truly think 4 more years of this shit will do this nation in for 
> good. So tensions are higher than usual, even among longtime friends. It's 
> weird. I think I'll quit answering my phone until after the election!
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 8:54:33 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> I'm so ashamed of a good 40 % of my fellow Americans. Talk about your 
>> lockstep leftist.! I got in a heated argument with a 40+ year progressive 
>> liberal friend of mine yesterday. She's so  drinking the koolaid and I 
>> swear she ticked off every talking point the left ever mouthed . We had to 
>> hang up the phones in the end. 
>> She emails me this afternoon and says she's sorry if she made me 
>> uncomfortable. That we won't be talking politics again. I wrote her back 
>> and told her I wasn't uncomfortable , that it got nasty as most political 
>> discussions get when you are so far apart in ideologies. I said I agreed 
>> about not discussing politics and that I have belonged to a political board 
>> for 10 years and I get plenty of that drama. 
>> We'll let it go...but she was being almost as bad as the board tards. 
>> Very nasty no matter that I tried to be conciliatory because of our long 
>> time friendship. No more. She made the rules  about not discussing 
>> politics. If she makes some smartass comment ..ever...I'm on her like flies 
>> on rice. Friend or not. I'm done with that shit. I'm standing up for my 
>> political principles whether   it pisses her off or not. Honestly...I think 
>> it made her uncomfortableand she was projecting. 
>> On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 9:50:14 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>
>>> *"Everything Changes~~~Nothing Changes~~~"*
>>>
>>> Does anyone really expect a Democrat; or any garden variety of a Secular 
>>> Progressive far left Moonbat to tell the truth?  Or to act in the best 
>>> interests of the American People?
>>>
>>> NADA..
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:33 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
>>> politic...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Four years ago Obama repeatedly told the ignorant lie that al quaeda 
>>>> was "on the run". His administration even lied over and over again about 
>>>> the cause of the terrorist attack in Benghazi because reality didn't fit 
>>>> the lie.
>>>>
>>>> Now, we have the Secretary of State just over 100 days before a 
>>>> presidential election claiming that ISIS is on the run.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/17/cnns_jake_tapper_questions_john_kerry_doesnt_look_like_isis_is_on_the_run.html
>>>>
>>>> Expect to see them tripping all over themselves to lie once again to 
>>>> their gullible, easily grubered morons who support them.
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Re: [grendelreport] No More

[Navybrat]

The only way were going to stop this is to vote in some who actually cares 
about this country and it's citizens. That sure as hell hasn't been Obama 
or the dems. 
The Petty Party is all about power...not people. 

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 5:53:16 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.city-journal.org/html/no-more-14651.html
> No More
>
> After Nice, let’s stop the nonsense. 
>
> Bruce Bawer 
>
> July 16, 2016
>
>  
>
> No more attempts to psychologically analyze every new jihadist—to probe 
> his troubled family or professional life in an attempt to figure out what 
> “turned him to violence and extremism.” 
>
>  
>
> No more reflexive reassurances that “this has nothing to do with Islam,” 
> that a handful of bad guys have “hijacked” a “peaceful” faith, and that 
> “the great majority of the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims are, of course, 
> peace-loving people who utterly reject this kind of action.” 
>
>  
>
> No more slick pivoting to the subject of gun control, or American 
> homophobia, or whatever other diversion seems useful under the specific 
> circumstances. 
>
>  
>
> No more blaming of Europeans’ supposed failure to accept or embrace or 
> integrate or employ Muslims, or of Muslims’ alleged poverty or hopelessness 
> or frustration or alienation. 
>
>  
>
> No more hand-wringing by journalists, as they stand mere yards from the 
> bodies of the dead, about the possible “backlash” against Muslims (which 
> never really materializes). 
>
>  
>
> No more declarations by U.S. officials that the mere mention of Islam in 
> connection with Islamic terrorism is “dangerous” and “counterproductive” 
> because it “alienates” the Muslim allies and Muslim communities whose help 
> we need in fighting this problem that we dare not properly name. 
>
> No more respectful TV interviews with representatives of “Muslim 
> civil-rights organizations” that have been proven over and over again to be 
> fronts for terrorism.
>
>  
>
> No more outrageous lies by government and media that, almost fifteen years 
> after 9/11, keep so many Americans so outrageously in the dark about the 
> world in which we live now. No more of the despicable day-to-day efforts by 
> the same actors to keep those Americans who do get it in line, to instill 
> in them an unholy fear that, if they dare to address the problem honestly, 
> they’ll be thrust forever out into the dark—beyond the realm of decent 
> society, unacceptable, unemployable, unfriendable. 
>
>  
>
> No more societal tyranny by those who (because they’re cowardly, or feel 
> powerless, or have no sense of responsibility to preserve the precious gift 
> of freedom that their own forebears fought and died for and have bequeathed 
> them, or are, inconceivably, unconcerned about the world their own children 
> and grandchildren will inhabit) treat as enemies not those who seek to 
> destroy them but those who dare to speak the truth about it.
>
>  
>
> No more ignorance. A couple of weeks ago, Adam Carolla recorded his 
> podcast—one of the most popular on the Internet—before an Amsterdam 
> audience. Carolla, an Angeleno, asked locals about life in the Netherlands. 
> They painted a thoroughly rosy picture. He asked about religion. They 
> depicted a near-utopian secular country free of reactionary faith. Poof! 
> Down the memory hole went Pim Fortuyn, Theo Van Gogh, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, 
> Geert Wilders. And Carolla didn’t challenge any of it. Then, just the other 
> day, in an interview on Joe Rogan’s podcast (which is even bigger than 
> Carolla’s), gay conservative Milo Yiannopoulos served up some basic facts 
> that everybody in the U.S. would know by now if the mainstream media were 
> doing its job—facts about the levels of Muslim rape in Sweden, about the 
> scale of antigay animus in Muslim communities, and about the systematic 
> efforts by European governments to obscure these and other ticklish 
> matters. Rogan, who is no fool, and who has interviewed hundreds of people 
> in an effort to educate himself about the world, was shocked by all of it. 
> (“Wow! Wow! Wow!”)
>
>  
>
> In the years after 9/11, major acts of Islamic terrorism in the West 
> seemed to come along every year or so, leaving plenty of time in between to 
> go back to pretending that everything was fine and to resume mouthing 
> benign platitudes. Now they’re happening so often, one right on top of the 
> other, that we can hardly keep track of them. The only upside is that it’s 
> getting harder and harder to maintain that pretense.
>
>  
>
> The time for shock is over. The time for heaping up flowers and candles 
> and stuffed animals at the sites of atrocities is over. 
>
> The lies and ignorance and cravenness must end, and the simple facts must 
> be faced. The free, civilized West has, for years now, been the target of a 
> war of conquest—a war waged in many forms (of which terrorism is only one) 
> by adherents 

Re: OMG, John Kerry actually "went there"

[Navybrat]

I'm so ashamed of a good 40 % of my fellow Americans. Talk about your 
lockstep leftist.! I got in a heated argument with a 40+ year progressive 
liberal friend of mine yesterday. She's so  drinking the koolaid and I 
swear she ticked off every talking point the left ever mouthed . We had to 
hang up the phones in the end. 
She emails me this afternoon and says she's sorry if she made me 
uncomfortable. That we won't be talking politics again. I wrote her back 
and told her I wasn't uncomfortable , that it got nasty as most political 
discussions get when you are so far apart in ideologies. I said I agreed 
about not discussing politics and that I have belonged to a political board 
for 10 years and I get plenty of that drama. 
We'll let it go...but she was being almost as bad as the board tards. Very 
nasty no matter that I tried to be conciliatory because of our long time 
friendship. No more. She made the rules  about not discussing politics. If 
she makes some smartass comment ..ever...I'm on her like flies on rice. 
Friend or not. I'm done with that shit. I'm standing up for my political 
principles whether   it pisses her off or not. Honestly...I think it made 
her uncomfortableand she was projecting. 
On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 9:50:14 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:

> *"Everything Changes~~~Nothing Changes~~~"*
>
> Does anyone really expect a Democrat; or any garden variety of a Secular 
> Progressive far left Moonbat to tell the truth?  Or to act in the best 
> interests of the American People?
>
> NADA..
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:33 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
> politic...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>
>> Four years ago Obama repeatedly told the ignorant lie that al quaeda was 
>> "on the run". His administration even lied over and over again about the 
>> cause of the terrorist attack in Benghazi because reality didn't fit the 
>> lie.
>>
>> Now, we have the Secretary of State just over 100 days before a 
>> presidential election claiming that ISIS is on the run.
>>
>>
>> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/17/cnns_jake_tapper_questions_john_kerry_doesnt_look_like_isis_is_on_the_run.html
>>
>> Expect to see them tripping all over themselves to lie once again to 
>> their gullible, easily grubered morons who support them.
>>
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Re: (White) Georgia cops overwhelm unarmed black teen

[Navybrat]

It's a wonderful story isn't it?I think Chirp brought to the other board.

On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 11:34:42 AM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> with kindness, concern, and hope and inspire a community to help him.
>
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/16/tent-dwelling-homeless-teen-bike-six-hours-college/
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Re: Why Republicans’ new anti-immigrant platform likely spells doom for them

[Navybrat]

I am and always WIL BE ANTI- ILLEGAL immigration. and definitely keep 
the Islamic wave to the barest minimum and screen them like no body's 
business.

On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 8:41:03 AM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> The author of this column is seriously tone deaf and completely out of 
> touch with what is going on in America (and in the world). Weekly we are 
> seeing the negative effects of countless nations refusing to protect their 
> nation's borders. The poor and working classes have been devastated here by 
> illegals taking over construction and hospitality and even fast food jobs - 
> and no segment of the population has been hurt more than young blacks. And 
> notice how she employs the dishonest leftwing tactic of conflating ILLEGAL 
> immigration with legal immigration. Thankfully more and more Americans 
> aren't falling for this bull shit anymore.
>
> And now we can add the examples all over the world of what allowing 
> radical Islamic terrorists to infiltrate countries results in - lots of 
> dead bodies piling  up.
>
> Polls also show that Americans in general are smarting than out-of-touch 
> leftwing pundits at the WaPo:
>
> Most voters continue to favor stricter border control over granting legal 
> status to those already here illegally and believe amnesty will just 
> encourage more illegal immigration. 
>
> A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59% of Likely 
> U.S. Voters think gaining control of the border should be the priority when 
> it comes to immigration reform. Thirty-four percent (34%) disagree and say 
> it’s more important to grant legal status to those already living here. (To 
> see survey question wording, click here 
> .)
>  
>
>
> These findings are consistent with regular surveying for the past four 
> years 
> .
>  
> Prior to 2012, support for stricter border control was generally in the low 
> to mid-60s. The number who say legalizing the status of those already here 
> is more important reached a high of 38% in December 2012 but fell to a 
> recent low of 30% in April of last year. 
>
>
>
> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/immigration_update
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 8:06:13 AM UTC-4, MJ wrote:
>>
>>
>> July 14 2016
>>
>> *Why Republicans’ new anti-immigrant platform likely spells doom for them 
>> *By Catherine Rampell
>>
>> The Republican Party had a chance to disavow Donald Trump’s xenophobia 
>> and nativism. Instead, the GOP doubled down. In the new 2016 Republican 
>> platform, delegates not only promised a wall along the southern border; 
>> they also decided to replace the term “illegal immigrants” with the more 
>> pejorative, dehumanizing epithet “ illegal aliens 
>> 
>> .”
>>
>> If history is any guide, these choices could prove very, very costly. 
>>
>> It’s true that Americans, or at least a vocal subset of Americans, have a 
>> long history of hostility 
>> 
>>  
>> toward immigrants. But for the most part, presidential candidates and their 
>> parties have been punished whenever they’ve indulged that hostility during 
>> election years. 
>>
>> The past century and a half provides case after case of candidates 
>> getting electorally pummeled after explicitly or implicitly endorsing 
>> anti-immigrant rhetoric. In almost every instance, this loss persuaded the 
>> defeated party to pivot toward more immigrant-friendly policies by the next 
>> election.
>>
>> In 1844, the Whig presidential ticket actively solicited endorsements 
>> from nativist groups. Whig vice-presidential candidate Theodore 
>> Frelinghuysen even led several organizations that were “openly hostile to 
>> Catholicism and new immigration,” as recounted 
>> in the book “ Dividing 
>> Lines: The Politics of Immigration Control in America 
>> ,”
>>  
>> by Daniel J. Tichenor, a political scientist at the University of Oregon. 
>>
>>
>> *Here are some of the people who are speaking at the 2016 Republican 
>> National Convention in Cleveland and some who've opted to skip the event. 
>> (Sarah Parnass, Danielle Kunitz/The Washington Post) *
>>
>> * http://wapo.st/29A4g37 *When the Whigs lost, 
>> party leadership concluded that Democrats’ support among 

Re: Clip-On Armpit Fan

[Navybrat]

LOLOLOL!!! Now that made my day!

On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 6:40:17 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote:

>
>
>
> http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/clip-on_armpit_fan/
>  
>
>
>

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Re: Euwetopian Chit-Chat

[Navybrat]

;) 


On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 9:42:06 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:

> !
>
> Ya still look good Ms. Navy!  
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Ya know...it's been so long I guess I've just forgotten. Sigh...  Getting 
>> old is not for sissys. Sorry.
>> On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 9:13:09 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>
>>> Ms. Navy,  I think you at one time were also a member here for a 
>>> while.It was during one of the periods of time where there was a 
>>> rebellion against the ABC Board, and a slew of people came over to this 
>>> side of the street.(And after a few months, leftThat's when the 
>>> first Euwetopia was formed, which eventually became "Cosmotopia"; when Euwe 
>>> took aa month or two break.I'm referencing eight or ten years ago by 
>>> the way.
>>>
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Re: Euwetopian Chit-Chat

[Navybrat]

Ya know...it's been so long I guess I've just forgotten. Sigh...  Getting 
old is not for sissys. Sorry.
On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 9:13:09 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Ms. Navy,  I think you at one time were also a member here for a 
> while.It was during one of the periods of time where there was a 
> rebellion against the ABC Board, and a slew of people came over to this 
> side of the street.(And after a few months, leftThat's when the 
> first Euwetopia was formed, which eventually became "Cosmotopia"; when Euwe 
> took aa month or two break.I'm referencing eight or ten years ago by 
> the way.
>
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Re: A heads up...

[Navybrat]

Thank you Mark!

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 9:18:52 PM UTC-6, THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote:
>
> Hey Navy, Glad to see you. Welcome 
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 6:38:57 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> I'mstillMags  posted the link to this board on Euwetopia so you may 
>> get some dregs coming over. These aren't sane people.just so ya know.
>>
>> Pissed me off because I just found this place and it isn't a hatefest and 
>> was looking forward to sticking around.
>>
>> Perp...they still to this day can't get over you kicking there asses. 
>> It's almost as funny as it's pathetic. 
>>
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A heads up...

[Navybrat]

I'mstillMags  posted the link to this board on Euwetopia so you may get 
some dregs coming over. These aren't sane people.just so ya know.

Pissed me off because I just found this place and it isn't a hatefest and 
was looking forward to sticking around.

Perp...they still to this day can't get over you kicking there asses. It's 
almost as funny as it's pathetic. 

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Re: what do you think?

[Navybrat]

At first I was outraged that he recommended that no charges be brought. 
It's so clear she lied and put top secret files at risk. 
But I have been reading and hearing this argument and I'm very hopeful . 
This country just can't deal with this bitch for 4-8 years.


On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 4:15:26 AM UTC-6, Bruce Majors wrote:

>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *'*
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
> This was sent to me by a friend and really tells it like it is.  
>  
> Barbie xo
>
>  
>
> ***
> I was wondering what was up...I like a guy that beats them at their own 
> game and did it totally in public so he's covered...Good for him
>
>  
>  A must read:
>  
> The director of the FBI did America a favor. He.presented his case to We 
> the People. I think that Comey did all he could yesterday. Should a case 
> have gone to trial, there would be no verdict prior to the election and all 
> of the evidence would have been kept from the public. He circumvented a 
> corrupt criminal justice system that he knew would fail us. According to 
> the Constitution, all citizens are her peers, but in the court of public 
> opinion, only a majority is requred to defeat her. In a court of law, it 
> must be unanimous . Comey presented his case today and there was truly 
> damning evidence presented. Comey impaneled the American people today 
> because there is no way that among 12 people there could be one that would 
> not be compromised. He is all too familiar with the ways of the Clintons. 
> Comey burned the rug today. This won't be swept under it. You have just 
> received a call to jury duty. Be the captain. Speak loud. Comey did."
> _
>
>
>Comey is not a stupid guy.  He may have been directed to "take the 
> fall" with his Hillary announcement (we know that Loretta didn't want this 
> thrown on her desk to preside over, even though the FBI has no authority to 
> make decisions whether or not to prosecute crimes; they only investigate 
> and Justice Dept decides that).  However, he decided to do something out of 
> the ordinary -- lay out and disclose all of his evidence during his Press 
> Conference.  He knew what he was doing and he knew that it would create a 
> "firestorm" of controversy.  If he had just sent everything he had to AG 
> Lynch, it might have all gotten buried or, at least, not disclosed until 
> long after the election.  Instead, he threw it all out for the public to 
> know.
>  
>He also knew that it would cause Congress to call for an investigation 
> so, now, he will not just be able to go and answer their questions; he made 
> himself available almost instantly ( tomorrow at 10 AM) full well knowing 
> that they will want to dig even deeper, hear about more evidence and have 
> an open-ended Q for the entire day if they want to.  If he wanted to, he 
> could have stalled this for a month just by saying "he's busy; send me a  
> Subpoena or let's schedule it for a convenient time.  I think Comey knew 
> that this way the FBI's entire case will get a full public airing (and, 
> since there isn't a prosecution pending, he can be candid and open about
> Anything and everything).  If it went to the Justice Dept's hands, it 
> would die a slow death there.
>  
> Nothing will be kept secret now; we'll learn about things (such as Hillary 
> having 12 private servers) that no one even suspected existed.  Comey can, 
> literally, try this case before the public, just as he started to do laying 
> out the key evidence just before "dropping the case", when everyone thought 
> he was heading toward a recommendation of prosecution.  The Public and 
> Media will now get to know EVERYTHING that would or could have been 
> presented in court if there was a prosecution (in fact, even more than what 
> could be presented in court because there will be no rules of evidence 
> holding him back).  This hearing could be extremely eye-opening.
>  
> Like I said, Comey isn't a stupid guy and he might have just outsmarted 
> Lynch and Obama when they told him to "kill this case".  A Grand Jury might 
> have taken 6 months or longer to accomplish, if playing "according to 
> Hoyle", plus it is secret, except for leaks.  Now nothing will be secret.  
> Again, Comey is not stupid and he might also prove that he is no one's 
> lacky; however, he will just "play it straight"; answer all of the 
> questions and not have to volunteer anything.  After all, Obama and Lynch 
> can't tell him to lie to Congress.  He might look foolish laying out this 
> case when not recommending prosecution but he might be wiser beyond our 
> thinking because now he will just be responding to questions "under oath."
>  
> That's my take on this scenario.  This could come out to be the biggest 
> fake-out in American history and, possibly, the only way to take down a 
> liar and dishonest government official who is 

Re: This Pence as VP stuff is setting my state up for mass chaos over the next 4 months!

[Navybrat]

Well shit! I was hoping for a good, calm match with Trump...to settle him a 
bit. even out the theater so to speak. The dems will make hay with this 
kind of stuff. Fuck!
Thank you for giving me a heads up. Yeah...I'm a believer ...but I don't 
want the government issuing laws because of it. Let them do what they 
wantthen sort it out with God...IMO. 
I'm glad I never had to even think about that kind of decision for myself. 
But that's not saying it didn't touch my family .


On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 5:56:07 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:

>
> He is very much a religious/social conservative (which is why I don't 
> really care for him). 
>
> He signed that Religious Freedom Restoration Act into law then got blasted 
> by the national media and what we refer to as "the gay mafia", remember? 
> And all it did was to state that the government had to show a compelling 
> interest in order to restrict a citizen's ability to practice/follow their 
> religion:
>
> "Senate Bill 101 prohibits state or local governments from substantially 
> burdening a person's ability to exercise their religion — unless the 
> government can show that it has a compelling interest and that the action 
> is the least-restrictive means of achieving it. It takes effect July 1."
>
> I think it was radically distorted by the media and gay rights' groups. 
> But it would have stopped this nonsense of gays forcing people to be 
> involved in their wedding ceremonies (which I personally think is 
> unconstitutional - especially for the photographers and others who have to 
> physically attend a ceremony that contradicts their religion). This bill 
> would have told them that they just need to find any of the other 150 
> photographers in the city who would gladly attend and participate in their 
> ceremony.
>
> But the one that really did me in with Pence was a very restrictive 
> abortion bill he signed into law in March of this year:
>
> Last month, governor Mike Pence signed into law House Enrolled Act 1337, 
> which added new provisions to Indiana’s existing abortion laws. Among other 
> things, the new law prohibits abortions obtained on the basis of “race, 
> color, national origin, ancestry, sex, or diagnosis or potential diagnosis 
> of the fetus having Down syndrome or any other disability”; it augments the 
> “informed consent” provisions currently on the books by adding new 
> information to that which a facility must provide to a woman seeking an 
> abortion; and it adds a requirement that fetal remains from a miscarriage 
> or abortion be cremated or interred. 
>
> It’s primarily that last measure that has prompted “Periods for Pence,” 
> which is swamping the governor’s office with phone calls informing him 
> about each caller’s reproductive cycle. The creator of the “Periods for 
> Pence” Facebook page has been transcribing her calls: 
>
> Me: “I need to get a message to the Governor that I am on day three of my 
> period. My flow seems abnormally heavy, but my cramps are much better to–” 
>
> Them: (seriously annoyed and trying to keep their voice down, but not 
> quite succeeding) MA’AM, WHAT IS IT THAT I CAN HELP YOU WITH? 
>
> Me: Oh, I don’t need your help, I just wanted to keep Governor Pence 
> informed of my reproductive cycle, since he seems so concerned.
>
> Read more at: 
> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433879/mike-pence-abortion-law
>
> Think about this. That means a woman who learns she has a severely 
> deformed fetus (including one with anencephaly or no brain that will die 
> either in the womb or within minutes or hours after being born) would have 
> been forced to carry the baby to term only to watch it die. Sorry, but 
> that's simply barbaric!
>
> I had to laugh at some of the stuff on their FB page "periods for pence".  
> IMO he deserved it. I mean, requiring a woman to bury a miscarried baby? 
> Thankfully our state Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional the day 
> before it was to take effect.
>
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:30:48 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> I had to call family in Indiana to find out a what they thought of Pence. 
>> My brother in law said he was pretty conservative fiscally...but he also 
>> said he wasn't a social conservative...and I'm hearing differently. What do 
>> you think of him Perp?
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:56:18 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The deadline for Pence to withdraw from the governor's race is tomorrow 
>>> (the Star is saying he already has). Then, a committee of 22 republicans 
>>> have 30 days to name his replacement on the ballot for November. That means 
>>> whoever does get 

Re: [New post] Malls Are Great Target For Muslim Jihadis

[Navybrat]

I'm getting to the point I look around my surroundings more these days. I 
went to a movie twice in the last 2 weeks and both times I sat in a area I 
thought would help me out the fastest.
I'm sad that my country has turned into 15 minutes of deadly fame.

But you gotta be smart . Big crowds don't entice me at all.

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:34:32 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote:

>
>
> burkasrugly posted: "Fellow infidels, Can any of you imagine a Muslim 
> jihadist attack on Turtle Creek Mall?  I can. Obama and his fellow 
> Democrats are ok with unarmed Americans. And they are also ok with bringing 
> all the unvetted Muslims in from Third World hellholes wher" 
> Respond to this post by replying above this line 
> New post on *actjonesboroar* 
>  Malls Are 
> Great Target For Muslim Jihadis 
> 
>  by 
> burkasrugly  
>
> Fellow infidels,
>
> Can any of you imagine a Muslim jihadist attack on Turtle Creek Mall?  I 
> can.
> Obama and his fellow Democrats are ok with unarmed Americans. And they are 
> also ok with bringing all the unvetted Muslims in from Third World 
> hellholes where they only know killing, hatred, and other attributes they 
> have gleaned from the unholy Koran. Listen to this guy who understands the 
> mind of the Muslim jihadis - Burkasrugly
> *burkasrugly * 
> | July 14, 2016 at 2:06 pm | Tags: AR 
> , NRA and Jihadist attacks 
> , Turtle 
> Creek Mall Jonesboro 
>  | 
> Categories: Radical Islam 
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Re: This Pence as VP stuff is setting my state up for mass chaos over the next 4 months!

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I had to call family in Indiana to find out a what they thought of Pence. 
My brother in law said he was pretty conservative fiscally...but he also 
said he wasn't a social conservative...and I'm hearing differently. What do 
you think of him Perp?

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 12:56:18 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> The deadline for Pence to withdraw from the governor's race is tomorrow 
> (the Star is saying he already has). Then, a committee of 22 republicans 
> have 30 days to name his replacement on the ballot for November. That means 
> whoever does get the nod then has 2.5 months to campaign before the vote in 
> November.
>
> Second, the three people being mentioned for Pence's replacement are US 
> Representative Susan Brooks, US Representative Todd Rokita (both of whom 
> have made preparations to remove themselves from ballots and run for 
> governor instead) and the current Lt. Governor Eric Holcomb - who was named 
> as a replacement in March of this year when the previous Lt. Governor 
> resigned.
>
> So that throws 2 of the House races here into disarray and in need of 
> replacement candidates too.
>
> To top it off, former democrat representative Baron HIll, who was set to 
> run for our US Senate seat vacated by republican Dan Coats, has withdrawn 
> his bid and former governor and US Senator Evan Bayh will be running 
> against republican Todd Young, who is currently serving his second term as 
> a US representative - thus leaving yet another congressional district with 
> no incumbent.
>
> I've never seen such upheaval at one time in my life! This state is going 
> to be as fun to watch as the national elections for once.
>
> For the record, I'd like to see Susan Brooks win the governorship and Todd 
> Young in the Senate. I voted for democrat Evan Bayh twice as governor and 
> twice as senator - as he used to be a very moderate/conservative democrat, 
> but then in his second term veered far left right alongside Hillary during 
> the 2008 presidential campaign (he was widely touted as a potential running 
> mate for her when everyone thought she would win the nomination). Bayh and 
> Clinton were among the 2 dozen leftwing democrats to oppose the nominations 
> of two highly qualified SC justices (Roberts and Alito) and then turn 
> around and vote to appoint the least qualified and most radical one ever 
> nominated - Sonia Sotomayor.
>
> Should be interesting. Bayh has the huge advantage (having been governor), 
> but it will depend on how many recall that he sadly became such a partisan 
> hack before leaving the Senate to become a lobbyist.
>

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Re: Cartoons just keep getting better!!

[Navybrat]

Thanks...I'm sharing this! :)
On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 10:32:50 PM UTC-6, Bill wrote:
>
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Re: Donald Trump Is a Scam. Evangelical Voters Should Back Away (CP Editorial)

[Navybrat]

If there ever is a 'viable' 3 party candidate...I'm open minded. But so far 
all they've done is throw the election to one side or another.
I can proudly say I have never in my 62 years voted for a dem.  

On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 5:19:34 PM UTC-6, brine wrote:

> Well as you know, I have not voted for either the Dem or Repub candidate 
> since the early 90s ... I think this might be the year that the 
> Libertarians get more traction ... all my Republican family keep saying 
> they won't vote, I told them to vote Libertarian ... at least you are 
> sending a message ... I am not a "party" person ... have voted for all of 
> them over the last 40 years!!!
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Keith In Tampa <keithi...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hah!
>>
>> Brine, there is no  other "legitimate" option other than voting for 
>> Crooked/Lying Hil Clinton or Donald Trump!  Whether we like itOr don't 
>> like it, voting for a goof ball open border abortion championing 
>> hig-as-a-kite pot smoker is, although better than voting for Hil Clinton, 
>> still a wasted vote!
>>
>> As a great mind said recently:
>>
>>
>> ​
>>
>>
>> http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/dennis-miller-dont-kid-point-vote-anyone-not-trump-vote-hillary/
>> ​
>>
>> Dennis Miller to #NeverTrumpers: Don’t Kid Yourself, At This Point, Any 
>> Vote for Anyone That is Not Trump Is a Vote for Hillary
>>
>> Jim Hoft <http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/author/jim-hoft/> May 9th, 
>> 2016 6:06 pm 127 Comments 
>> <http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/dennis-miller-dont-kid-point-vote-anyone-not-trump-vote-hillary/#disqus_thread>
>> [image: dennis miller rubio]
>>
>> Actor-comedian Dennis Miller is going after the #NeverTrumpers.
>>
>> Don’t kid yourself. At this point, any vote for anyone that is not Donald 
>> Trump is a vote for Hillary Clinton. Also, both Presidential boxes left 
>> blank is a vote for Hillary Clinton because as mindless as Liberals can be 
>> even they don’t enter into suicide pacts with that petulant, whiny part of 
>> themselves. As that is your wont, fine…do it! But don’t bullshit 
>> yourself. You’re electing Hillary Clinton because you want to elect Hillary 
>> Clinton.
>>
>> Dennis posted this on Facebook this afternoon:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> None that wouldn't waste my precious vote. sorry. Just like you go with 
>>> the army you have...you go with the candidate you have. Party over 
>>> person...always.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 3:36:30 PM UTC-6, brine wrote:
>>>>
>>>> voting against Kankles???
>>>>
>>>> There are options other than Mr. Trump!!!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You really think this will stop anyone, evangelicals...or just ru of 
>>>>> the mill  Chrisitians from voting against Kankles??? 
>>>>>
>>>>> Delusion noted ( as some always says ;)  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 1:40:34 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Editors' Note: The Christian Post has not taken a position on a 
>>>>>> political candidate before today. We are making an exception because 
>>>>>> Trump 
>>>>>> is exceptionally bad and claims to speak for and represent the interests 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> evangelicals.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We the senior editors of The Christian Post encourage our readers to 
>>>>>> back away from Donald Trump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the most popular evangelical news website in the United States and 
>>>>>> the world, we feel compelled by our moral responsibility to our readers 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> make clear that Donald Trump does not represent the interests of 
>>>>>> evangelicals and would be a dangerous leader for our country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump claims to be a Christian, yet says he has never asked for 
>>>>>> forgiveness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While God, in His wondrous creativity, has drawn people to Himself 
>>>>>> through the saving grace of Jesus Christ in many different ways, there 

Re: Donald Trump Is a Scam. Evangelical Voters Should Back Away (CP Editorial)

[Navybrat]

None that wouldn't waste my precious vote. sorry. Just like you go with the 
army you have...you go with the candidate you have. Party over 
person...always.

On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 3:36:30 PM UTC-6, brine wrote:
>
> voting against Kankles???
>
> There are options other than Mr. Trump!!!
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> You really think this will stop anyone, evangelicals...or just ru of the 
>> mill  Chrisitians from voting against Kankles??? 
>>
>> Delusion noted ( as some always says ;)  
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 1:40:34 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>>
>>> *Editors' Note: The Christian Post has not taken a position on a 
>>> political candidate before today. We are making an exception because Trump 
>>> is exceptionally bad and claims to speak for and represent the interests of 
>>> evangelicals.*
>>>
>>> We the senior editors of The Christian Post encourage our readers to 
>>> back away from Donald Trump.
>>>
>>> As the most popular evangelical news website in the United States and 
>>> the world, we feel compelled by our moral responsibility to our readers to 
>>> make clear that Donald Trump does not represent the interests of 
>>> evangelicals and would be a dangerous leader for our country.
>>>
>>> Trump claims to be a Christian, yet says he has never asked for 
>>> forgiveness.
>>>
>>> While God, in His wondrous creativity, has drawn people to Himself 
>>> through the saving grace of Jesus Christ in many different ways, there are 
>>> certain non-negotiable actions needed to become a Christian: One must 
>>> repent of their sins and follow Christ as Lord and Savior. Trump doesn't 
>>> talk this way, even when urged to.
>>>
>>> Further, his words and actions do not demonstrate the "fruit of the 
>>> spirit."
>>>
>>> Trump is a misogynist and philanderer. He demeans women and minorities. 
>>> His preferred forms of communication are insults, obscenities and untruths. 
>>> While Christians have been guilty of all of these, we, unlike Trump, 
>>> acknowledge our sins, ask for forgiveness and seek restitution with the aid 
>>> of the Holy Spirit and our community of believers.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, Trump's apparent reluctance to disavow David Duke until late 
>>> in the day was extremely distasteful. The Ku Klux Klan is an evil, unholy 
>>> movement representing the worst of America. Anyone who will not immediately 
>>> denounce their support is unfit to be president.
>>>
>>> Trump claims he will "protect Christians." We already have a Protector, 
>>> and He is not Trump.
>>>
>>> The grievances of Trump's supporters are legitimate. Politicians for too 
>>> long have promised to represent the best interests of all Americans before 
>>> an election, only to represent the interest of their cronies after the 
>>> election. But Trump's followers are being fooled into believing that he can 
>>> help them.
>>>
>>> Trump is promising many things that he cannot possibly deliver, but the 
>>> most frightening part is Trump's stated willingness to ignore the authority 
>>> of the Supreme Court, Congress and the U.S. Constitution if he were to 
>>> become president.
>>>
>>> Trump has been surrounded by controversy for decades because of his 
>>> untruthfulness, questionable business practices, reported association with 
>>> organized crime, and abrupt changes in fundamental positions. Many of these 
>>> controversies involve defrauding the working class and decisions that 
>>> compromised American workers. He has taken a political position both pro 
>>> and con on virtually every subject and major political party. This should 
>>> give evangelicals great pause and concern about supporting such a mercurial 
>>> and chameleon-like candidate. Past performance is the best predictor of 
>>> future behavior.
>>>
>>> Trump said he wants to make it easier to sue newspapers that criticize 
>>> him. When it was pointed out to him Sunday that he would have to amend the 
>>> Constitution's freedom of speech and freedom of press clauses, Trump was 
>>> unmoved, simply noting that England has weaker protections for the press.
>>>
>>> Many evangelicals, including our friends, have criticized Trump on our 
>>> own opinion page and elsewhere, such as M

Re: Check out New Black Panther Party leader says blacks must move to 5 stat...

[Navybrat]

First off...he's making hungry for fried chicken!! LOL!  He's awesome!



On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 7:12:05 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:

>
> https://www.facebook.com/terrencemontana.williams/videos/10205517899661769/?pnref=story
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Brian Bednarek  > wrote:
>
>> They were already given Liberia, why not move there if it's so bad here!!!
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Hot4azintop via PoliticalForum <
>> politic...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>> Click here: New Black Panther Party leader says blacks must move to 5 
>>> states and start a ‘country within a country’ | BizPac R 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Finally, these idiots come up with a plan..sounds good to me and 
>>> then we could move in and tear down their slums and public housing 
>>> projects while welcoming new folks to our neighborhoods which now become 
>>> much safer and we might even be able to leave our doors unlocked at night 
>>> and the keys left in the car with packages in sight as they always were 
>>> when I was growing up...not to mention the taxes we could save in not 
>>> paying benefits to these jerks. 
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Re: My question for Hillary and Trump fans

[Navybrat]

Just for you my friend...;) that and it gave me a chuckle knowing you.

On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 2:52:58 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:

> still believing in religious myths, eh?
>
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 3:36:51 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> True...but they still have human qualities...the others are Satan's spawn!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 1:26:18 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>>
>>> Those are the only three you CAN have a civil conservation with!
>>>
>>> Lobo, Fritzie;  Euwe
>>> ---
>>> their insults are just more civil.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 2:12:49 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Those are the only three you CAN have a civil conservation with! 
>>>>
>>>> Lobo, Fritzie;  Euwe
>>>>  Thanks for the nice words. I am not the Navy you rremember. I say some 
>>>> pretty horrendous things back to those assholes who constantly attack me 
>>>> ...the main culprits being justice ( Justfatass) and Ragnar( Biffer-fuck)
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:59:49 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Perp!
>>>>>
>>>>> !  I  recall several of the "Chapters" that you reference, and 
>>>>> an excellent analysis!  I was always fond of Lobo, Fritzie;  Euwe, and a 
>>>>> few others.  I was able to have civil interesting conversations with 
>>>>> those 
>>>>> guys, even though rarely did we agree on much.  
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not going to get into trashing anyone, but again, your summation 
>>>>> is very, very accurate!   I haven't seen WNCS in years; nor Mr. or Mrs. 
>>>>> Rabbit.I always felt sorry for Cricket, who was where I got my 
>>>>> "Wolkpack" analogy from, it always seemed as though anytime or anything 
>>>>> Cricket posted something, all would come out of the woodowrk to attack 
>>>>> him! 
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever happened to Gaar?  There was another mental patient.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 1:16 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
>>>>> politic...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm, here are my thoughts on Euwedopia. I can't speak to the current 
>>>>>> mix of loonbats on there, but my experience was with the site several 
>>>>>> years 
>>>>>> ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Navy, PNY, wncs, and crick were my favorites to read on there. All 
>>>>>> were well-informed and had a sense of humor. The leftwing "males" were 
>>>>>> almost exclusively emasculated and deluded. The rightwing males are 
>>>>>> pretty 
>>>>>> far out there too. They chased away the small number of intelligent 
>>>>>> males 
>>>>>> worth reading or who were funny (except Kamakazee, who seems funny and 
>>>>>> bright). Fritz would teter from being a well-meaning person trying to be 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> peace-keeper to someone clearly on the brink of a meltdown. The 
>>>>>> remaining 
>>>>>> females on that site are among the most vile, toxic, deluded, miserable 
>>>>>> victim-mongering losers I've ever seen in my life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked and see mercury is back on there. No surprise; I'm sure 
>>>>>> she'll fit right in. She posted that her brother was dying of cancer. I 
>>>>>> just hope nobody follows her all over the internet and claims he raped 
>>>>>> her 
>>>>>> kids and died of AIDS due to homosexuality as she said of my brother who 
>>>>>> died of cancer. She is the most hate-filled lunatic I've encountered on 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> internet - bar none.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure if Magcrest is on there or not, but I will say that the most 
>>>>>> fun I ever had on the internet was exposing her. That was absolutely 
>>>>>> priceless! She'd spent years making fun of my picture on multiple sites, 
>>>>>> all the while pretending to be some sort of sexy, attractive, 
>>>>>> fashionable 
>>>>>> person (frankly she be

Re: Have you seen this hilarious video of Sanders destroying Clinton on gun control?

[Navybrat]

LOLOLOL!! Oh I'm sharing this! 

On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 1:12:23 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> Bernie Sanders destroys Hillary Clinton in primary debate on Vermont gun 
> control 
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnPrxbYARJg=youtu.be=desktop
>
>
> I love it. :)
>
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Re: My question for Hillary and Trump fans

[Navybrat]

True...but they still have human qualities...the others are Satan's spawn!


On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 1:26:18 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:

> Those are the only three you CAN have a civil conservation with!
>
> Lobo, Fritzie;  Euwe
> ---
> their insults are just more civil.
>
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 2:12:49 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> Those are the only three you CAN have a civil conservation with! 
>>
>> Lobo, Fritzie;  Euwe
>>  Thanks for the nice words. I am not the Navy you rremember. I say some 
>> pretty horrendous things back to those assholes who constantly attack me 
>> ...the main culprits being justice ( Justfatass) and Ragnar( Biffer-fuck)
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 11:59:49 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Perp!
>>>
>>> !  I  recall several of the "Chapters" that you reference, and an 
>>> excellent analysis!  I was always fond of Lobo, Fritzie;  Euwe, and a few 
>>> others.  I was able to have civil interesting conversations with those 
>>> guys, even though rarely did we agree on much.  
>>>
>>> I'm not going to get into trashing anyone, but again, your summation is 
>>> very, very accurate!   I haven't seen WNCS in years; nor Mr. or Mrs. 
>>> Rabbit.I always felt sorry for Cricket, who was where I got my 
>>> "Wolkpack" analogy from, it always seemed as though anytime or anything 
>>> Cricket posted something, all would come out of the woodowrk to attack him! 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Whatever happened to Gaar?  There was another mental patient.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 1:16 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
>>> politic...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, here are my thoughts on Euwedopia. I can't speak to the current 
>>>> mix of loonbats on there, but my experience was with the site several 
>>>> years 
>>>> ago.
>>>>
>>>> Navy, PNY, wncs, and crick were my favorites to read on there. All were 
>>>> well-informed and had a sense of humor. The leftwing "males" were almost 
>>>> exclusively emasculated and deluded. The rightwing males are pretty far 
>>>> out 
>>>> there too. They chased away the small number of intelligent males worth 
>>>> reading or who were funny (except Kamakazee, who seems funny and bright). 
>>>> Fritz would teter from being a well-meaning person trying to be a 
>>>> peace-keeper to someone clearly on the brink of a meltdown. The remaining 
>>>> females on that site are among the most vile, toxic, deluded, miserable 
>>>> victim-mongering losers I've ever seen in my life.
>>>>
>>>> I checked and see mercury is back on there. No surprise; I'm sure 
>>>> she'll fit right in. She posted that her brother was dying of cancer. I 
>>>> just hope nobody follows her all over the internet and claims he raped her 
>>>> kids and died of AIDS due to homosexuality as she said of my brother who 
>>>> died of cancer. She is the most hate-filled lunatic I've encountered on 
>>>> the 
>>>> internet - bar none.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if Magcrest is on there or not, but I will say that the most 
>>>> fun I ever had on the internet was exposing her. That was absolutely 
>>>> priceless! She'd spent years making fun of my picture on multiple sites, 
>>>> all the while pretending to be some sort of sexy, attractive, fashionable 
>>>> person (frankly she behaved like a slut). After years of this, an 
>>>> anonymous 
>>>> poster sent me links to a site with pictures of her, revealing a morbidly 
>>>> obese --and I do mean MORBIDLY obese -- cow with a butch haircut who 
>>>> dressed in what looked like uniforms the guys who change your oil wear. 
>>>> You 
>>>> know - the kind whose gut fat hangs down onto her thighs?  LOL, it was too 
>>>> much fun exposing her. The screeching. The euwedopes abandoning and 
>>>> burning 
>>>> down boards and closing Euwedopia to give her refuge. I laugh just 
>>>> thinking 
>>>> about it.
>>>>
>>>> To this day, I don't know who sent me that link. I have my suspicions, 
>>>> but am not 100% certain, as she had more than one member on that site who 
>>>> detested her.
>>>>
>>>> When I re-joined the site after them promising to be neutral, sh

Re: Donald Trump Is a Scam. Evangelical Voters Should Back Away (CP Editorial)

[Navybrat]

You really think this will stop anyone, evangelicals...or just ru of the 
mill  Chrisitians from voting against Kankles??? 

Delusion noted ( as some always says ;)  

On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 1:40:34 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:

> *Editors' Note: The Christian Post has not taken a position on a political 
> candidate before today. We are making an exception because Trump is 
> exceptionally bad and claims to speak for and represent the interests of 
> evangelicals.*
>
> We the senior editors of The Christian Post encourage our readers to back 
> away from Donald Trump.
>
> As the most popular evangelical news website in the United States and the 
> world, we feel compelled by our moral responsibility to our readers to make 
> clear that Donald Trump does not represent the interests of evangelicals 
> and would be a dangerous leader for our country.
>
> Trump claims to be a Christian, yet says he has never asked for 
> forgiveness.
>
> While God, in His wondrous creativity, has drawn people to Himself through 
> the saving grace of Jesus Christ in many different ways, there are certain 
> non-negotiable actions needed to become a Christian: One must repent of 
> their sins and follow Christ as Lord and Savior. Trump doesn't talk this 
> way, even when urged to.
>
> Further, his words and actions do not demonstrate the "fruit of the 
> spirit."
>
> Trump is a misogynist and philanderer. He demeans women and minorities. 
> His preferred forms of communication are insults, obscenities and untruths. 
> While Christians have been guilty of all of these, we, unlike Trump, 
> acknowledge our sins, ask for forgiveness and seek restitution with the aid 
> of the Holy Spirit and our community of believers.
>
> On Sunday, Trump's apparent reluctance to disavow David Duke until late in 
> the day was extremely distasteful. The Ku Klux Klan is an evil, unholy 
> movement representing the worst of America. Anyone who will not immediately 
> denounce their support is unfit to be president.
>
> Trump claims he will "protect Christians." We already have a Protector, 
> and He is not Trump.
>
> The grievances of Trump's supporters are legitimate. Politicians for too 
> long have promised to represent the best interests of all Americans before 
> an election, only to represent the interest of their cronies after the 
> election. But Trump's followers are being fooled into believing that he can 
> help them.
>
> Trump is promising many things that he cannot possibly deliver, but the 
> most frightening part is Trump's stated willingness to ignore the authority 
> of the Supreme Court, Congress and the U.S. Constitution if he were to 
> become president.
>
> Trump has been surrounded by controversy for decades because of his 
> untruthfulness, questionable business practices, reported association with 
> organized crime, and abrupt changes in fundamental positions. Many of these 
> controversies involve defrauding the working class and decisions that 
> compromised American workers. He has taken a political position both pro 
> and con on virtually every subject and major political party. This should 
> give evangelicals great pause and concern about supporting such a mercurial 
> and chameleon-like candidate. Past performance is the best predictor of 
> future behavior.
>
> Trump said he wants to make it easier to sue newspapers that criticize 
> him. When it was pointed out to him Sunday that he would have to amend the 
> Constitution's freedom of speech and freedom of press clauses, Trump was 
> unmoved, simply noting that England has weaker protections for the press.
>
> Many evangelicals, including our friends, have criticized Trump on our own 
> opinion page and elsewhere, such as Matt Barber 
> 
> , Dr. Michael Brown 
> 
> , Kristi Burton Brown 
> 
> , Susan Stamper Brown 
> 
> , Rev. Mark Creech 
> 
> , Wallace Henley 
> 
> , E.W. Jackson 
> 
> , Max Lucado 
> 
> , Dr. Russell Moore 
> 
>  and Rep. Reid Ribble 
> .
>  
> If Trump were 

Re: My question for Hillary and Trump fans

[Navybrat]

erp!)
>>>
>>> ​
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:22 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
>>> politic...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You really should give yourself more credit Navy. You are plenty smart, 
>>>> and also you can be fierce but remain even-handed and reasonable. You 
>>>> never 
>>>> come off looking like a raging lunatic - unlike those you are surrounded 
>>>> by 
>>>> on a place like Euwetopia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 8:15:38 AM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I do the same...and the lovely progressives on another board act like 
>>>>> I'm stupid...but their idiots..so who cares! I got your meaning just 
>>>>> fine. 
>>>>> :) I don't have your smarts , but I do have a lot of passion about things.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 9:33:14 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Thx, Navy. Too many typos though; I leave out entire words when I'm 
>>>>>> typing quickly, lol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 3:41:37 PM UTC-4, Perplexed wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I answered your question and stated very clearly that it was based 
>>>>>>> on the idiotic notion that Trump should spend even a minute of time 
>>>>>>> worrying about offending legions of leftloons who wake up each day 
>>>>>>> searching for something to be offended by. Newsflash - he shouldn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's compare the two, shall we? Trump sent a tweet out that 
>>>>>>> contained an ordinary six-pointed star and failed to anticipate the 
>>>>>>> depth 
>>>>>>> of depravity that leftloons would stoop. Clinton, as Secretary of State:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. hosted a private server in her basement (deemed by the FBI to be 
>>>>>>> less secure than gmail) that handled highly classified intel
>>>>>>> 2. did #1 above with the obvious intent of shielding her 
>>>>>>> communications from federal obligations (incl congressional oversight 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> FOIA requests)
>>>>>>> 3. sent, received, or handed over that highly classified information 
>>>>>>> to at least ten different individuals without security clearances
>>>>>>> 4. failed to hand over the tens of thousands of emails she'd 
>>>>>>> illegally kept from pubic scrutiny for 4 years when she left office in 
>>>>>>> 2013
>>>>>>> 5. destroyed work-related emails upon learning she was the target of 
>>>>>>> a Congressional investigation into her use of an illegal email system
>>>>>>> 6. lied REPEATEDLY to the public about her intent and violations of 
>>>>>>> the law in #s1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 above.
>>>>>>> 7. lied WHILE UNDER OATH to Congress about #s 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 
>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My favorite of all was her response when asked about the security of 
>>>>>>> the private server she'd set up in her basement without permission: 
>>>>>>> that it 
>>>>>>> was in a house guarded by the Secret Service. Personally I think the 
>>>>>>> snotty, indignant tone she used in making such an incredibly ignorant 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> ridiculous statement reveals the depth of just how stupid Hillary 
>>>>>>> Clinton 
>>>>>>> is. My husband disagrees and thinks she knew that was an ignorant and 
>>>>>>> ridiculous statement, but that enough of her supporters were dumb 
>>>>>>> enough to 
>>>>>>> believe that where the server was physically located mattered.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your question shows how this country managed to elect a community 
>>>>>>> organizer who'd never managed so much as a Koolaid stand was deemed fit 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> run the country by more than half the voters twice. We are doomed as 
>>>>>>> long 
>>

Re: My question for Hillary and Trump fans

[Navybrat]

I do the same...and the lovely progressives on another board act like I'm 
stupid...but their idiots..so who cares! I got your meaning just fine. :) I 
don't have your smarts , but I do have a lot of passion about things.


On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 9:33:14 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:

>
>  Thx, Navy. Too many typos though; I leave out entire words when I'm 
> typing quickly, lol.
>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 3:41:37 PM UTC-4, Perplexed wrote:
>>
>>
>> I answered your question and stated very clearly that it was based on the 
>> idiotic notion that Trump should spend even a minute of time worrying about 
>> offending legions of leftloons who wake up each day searching for something 
>> to be offended by. Newsflash - he shouldn't.
>>
>> Let's compare the two, shall we? Trump sent a tweet out that contained an 
>> ordinary six-pointed star and failed to anticipate the depth of depravity 
>> that leftloons would stoop. Clinton, as Secretary of State:
>>
>> 1. hosted a private server in her basement (deemed by the FBI to be less 
>> secure than gmail) that handled highly classified intel
>> 2. did #1 above with the obvious intent of shielding her communications 
>> from federal obligations (incl congressional oversight and FOIA requests)
>> 3. sent, received, or handed over that highly classified information to 
>> at least ten different individuals without security clearances
>> 4. failed to hand over the tens of thousands of emails she'd illegally 
>> kept from pubic scrutiny for 4 years when she left office in 2013
>> 5. destroyed work-related emails upon learning she was the target of a 
>> Congressional investigation into her use of an illegal email system
>> 6. lied REPEATEDLY to the public about her intent and violations of the 
>> law in #s1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 above.
>> 7. lied WHILE UNDER OATH to Congress about #s 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 above.
>>
>> My favorite of all was her response when asked about the security of the 
>> private server she'd set up in her basement without permission: that it was 
>> in a house guarded by the Secret Service. Personally I think the snotty, 
>> indignant tone she used in making such an incredibly ignorant and 
>> ridiculous statement reveals the depth of just how stupid Hillary Clinton 
>> is. My husband disagrees and thinks she knew that was an ignorant and 
>> ridiculous statement, but that enough of her supporters were dumb enough to 
>> believe that where the server was physically located mattered.
>>
>> Your question shows how this country managed to elect a community 
>> organizer who'd never managed so much as a Koolaid stand was deemed fit to 
>> run the country by more than half the voters twice. We are doomed as long 
>> as Americans continue to show such abject ignorance.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:16:10 PM UTC-4, Bruce Majors wrote:
>>>
>>> As I originally asked, when I posted in between making love with Kirchik 
>>> and Soros,
>>>
>>> why do Trump and Hillary fans each think claiming they are too dumb or 
>>> old to figure out social media or internet security excuses only their guy 
>>> but not the other?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 2:10 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
>>> politic...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>

 You should be aware of the implications when legions of leftloons in 
 this country wake up each day looking for reasons to claim victim status 
 or 
 to be aggrieved about something. Millions of Americans finally reaches the 
 breaking point with this ignorant crap and tells you to stfu or simply 
 laughs at you and the ignorant leftwing media parroting your idiocy (and 
 ironically, *your* bigotry).

 The left shot their wad calling anyone who disagreed with Obama on 
 anything a "racist" for the past 8 years. And all you've done for the past 
 year is claim Trump is a scary racist and Islamophobe for wanting to end 
 the relentless assault on this country by illegal aliens and the clear and 
 present danger of radical Islamic terrorists using our open borders to 
 infiltrate America and harm our citizenry. No offense, but I personally 
 don't give an ounce of credence to pretty much anything you guys proclaim 
 is the latest national outrage - particularly when it involves such lazy, 
 effortless manufactured outrage such as claiming a political enemy is a 
 racist, homophobe, or anti-Semitic.

 On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 11:37:47 AM UTC-4, brine wrote:
>
> The point is that as a New Yorker the person who does his tweets 
> should be aware of the implications of a 6 pointed star and money in an 
> image!!!
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:24 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
> politic...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> No, I didn't grow up in the NY metro area, nor did most Americans 
>> spend their lives around the 2% who are Jewish. On the contrary, most of 
>> us 
>> grew up in 

Re: My question for Hillary and Trump fans

[Navybrat]

God , I miss your reasoned , kick ass posts! I wish you were kicking ass 
and taking names on Euwetopia. I know , I knowbut it's on my bucket 
list. ;)

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 1:41:37 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> I answered your question and stated very clearly that it was based on the 
> idiotic notion that Trump should spend even a minute of time worrying about 
> offending legions of leftloons who wake up each day searching for something 
> to be offended by. Newsflash - he shouldn't.
>
> Let's compare the two, shall we? Trump sent a tweet out that contained an 
> ordinary six-pointed star and failed to anticipate the depth of depravity 
> that leftloons would stoop. Clinton, as Secretary of State:
>
> 1. hosted a private server in her basement (deemed by the FBI to be less 
> secure than gmail) that handled highly classified intel
> 2. did #1 above with the obvious intent of shielding her communications 
> from federal obligations (incl congressional oversight and FOIA requests)
> 3. sent, received, or handed over that highly classified information to at 
> least ten different individuals without security clearances
> 4. failed to hand over the tens of thousands of emails she'd illegally 
> kept from pubic scrutiny for 4 years when she left office in 2013
> 5. destroyed work-related emails upon learning she was the target of a 
> Congressional investigation into her use of an illegal email system
> 6. lied REPEATEDLY to the public about her intent and violations of the 
> law in #s1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 above.
> 7. lied WHILE UNDER OATH to Congress about #s 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 above.
>
> My favorite of all was her response when asked about the security of the 
> private server she'd set up in her basement without permission: that it was 
> in a house guarded by the Secret Service. Personally I think the snotty, 
> indignant tone she used in making such an incredibly ignorant and 
> ridiculous statement reveals the depth of just how stupid Hillary Clinton 
> is. My husband disagrees and thinks she knew that was an ignorant and 
> ridiculous statement, but that enough of her supporters were dumb enough to 
> believe that where the server was physically located mattered.
>
> Your question shows how this country managed to elect a community 
> organizer who'd never managed so much as a Koolaid stand was deemed fit to 
> run the country by more than half the voters twice. We are doomed as long 
> as Americans continue to show such abject ignorance.
>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:16:10 PM UTC-4, Bruce Majors wrote:
>>
>> As I originally asked, when I posted in between making love with Kirchik 
>> and Soros,
>>
>> why do Trump and Hillary fans each think claiming they are too dumb or 
>> old to figure out social media or internet security excuses only their guy 
>> but not the other?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 2:10 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
>> politic...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You should be aware of the implications when legions of leftloons in 
>>> this country wake up each day looking for reasons to claim victim status or 
>>> to be aggrieved about something. Millions of Americans finally reaches the 
>>> breaking point with this ignorant crap and tells you to stfu or simply 
>>> laughs at you and the ignorant leftwing media parroting your idiocy (and 
>>> ironically, *your* bigotry).
>>>
>>> The left shot their wad calling anyone who disagreed with Obama on 
>>> anything a "racist" for the past 8 years. And all you've done for the past 
>>> year is claim Trump is a scary racist and Islamophobe for wanting to end 
>>> the relentless assault on this country by illegal aliens and the clear and 
>>> present danger of radical Islamic terrorists using our open borders to 
>>> infiltrate America and harm our citizenry. No offense, but I personally 
>>> don't give an ounce of credence to pretty much anything you guys proclaim 
>>> is the latest national outrage - particularly when it involves such lazy, 
>>> effortless manufactured outrage such as claiming a political enemy is a 
>>> racist, homophobe, or anti-Semitic.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 11:37:47 AM UTC-4, brine wrote:

 The point is that as a New Yorker the person who does his tweets should 
 be aware of the implications of a 6 pointed star and money in an image!!!

 On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 11:24 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum <
 politic...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> No, I didn't grow up in the NY metro area, nor did most Americans 
> spend their lives around the 2% who are Jewish. On the contrary, most of 
> us 
> grew up in places where a 6-pointed star - or any star - is seen more 
> often 
> in the context of a sheriff's badge.
>
> I grew up in the Midwest, and as I said, most of us don't spend our 
> time looking for ways to be a victim or offended. We leave that kind of 
> insanity to those of you on the coasts and our 

Re: [New post] Supreme Court judge Ruth Bader Ginsbe rg: If Trumps wins, it’s time to move to New Zealand

[Navybrat]

I kick her in the ass on her way on da plane.

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 6:09:02 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> ???
>
> Intentionally on her part so she'd have no vote?
>
> 
>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 5:20:10 PM UTC-4, MJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What if it is a means of recusal to ensure an outcome for any election 
>> related decrees?
>>
>> Regard$,
>> --MJ
>>
>> I have a lifetime appointment and I intend to serve it. I 
>> expect to die at 110, shot by a jealous husband. -- Thurgood Marshall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 06:12 PM 7/11/2016, you wrote:
>>
>> That old biddy needs to start packing now.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:17 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < 
>> politi...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'll chip in $100!
>>
>> That is incredibly inappropriate for ANY Supreme Court justice to speak 
>> out like this about an upcoming election. Hopefully it will accomplish what 
>> most ignorant statements made by liberals today have accomplished - more 
>> votes for Trump. :)
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 3:19:05 PM UTC-4, Travis wrote:
>> [[ I will chip in 1 dollar to help buy her a 1-way coach ticket on Air 
>> Malaysia.  ]]
>>
>> Dr. Eowyn posted: "Liberals keep threatening that if so-and-so is 
>> elected, they would leave the U.S. and move to a foreign country, usually 
>> to Europe. Hollyweirdos like Alec Baldwin and Barbra Streisand had made 
>> that threat before. The problem is they NEVER actually leave. " 
>> Respond to this post by replying above this line 
>>
>>
>> *New post on Fellowship of the Minds*
>>
>> [image: []]  
>> [image: []]  
>> * Supreme Court judge Ruth Bader Ginsberg: If Trumps wins, it’s time to 
>> move to New Zealand 
>> *
>>
>> by Dr. Eowyn  
>>
>> Liberals keep threatening that if so-and-so is elected, they would leave 
>> the U.S. and move to a foreign country, usually to Europe. Hollyweirdos 
>> like Alec Baldwin and Barbra Streisand had made that threat before. The 
>> problem is they NEVER actually leave. It's just all blather and empty talk.
>>
>> The latest liberal to make that threat is the very liberal Supreme Court 
>> "Justice" Ruth Bader Ginsburg -- she who once said that legalizing abortion 
>> is in the cause of eugenics or, bluntly put, culling the population of 
>> black and poor people. In July 2009, in a Sunday New York Times interview, 
>> Ginsburg 
>> said 
>> 
>> :
>>
>> "Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe [v. Wade] was decided, there 
>> was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations 
>> that we don’t want to have too many of."
>>
>> [image: Ruth Bader Ginsburg falls asleep at Obama' 2015 SOTU] 
>> 
>>
>> In an interview 
>> 
>>  
>> with The New York Times, last Friday, July 8, 2016, Ginsberg was outspoken 
>> about what she thinks of presumptive GOP presidential candidate Donald 
>> Trump. She moaned:
>>
>> “I can’t imagine what this place would be — I can’t imagine what 
>> the country would be — with Donnald Trump as our president. For the 
>> country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t 
>> even want to contemplate thaat.†
>>
>> She then quoted what her late husband, a tax lawyer who had died in 2010, 
>> would have said:
>>
>> “Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand.†
>>
>> Why wait till Trump is elected, Ruth Ginsburg?
>>
>> Honor your husband's memory and move to New Zealand already. I'll even 
>> chip in $1 to help pay for your airfare.
>>
>> But Ginsburg did accomplish something useful with her NYT interview: 
>> she's reminded us why Hillary Clinton can NEVER EVER be elected president.
>>
>> After the mysterious death of Antonin Scalia 
>> ,
>>  
>> the Supreme Court is now (supposedly) evenly divided 4:4 between 
>> conservatives and liberals. But judging by the Court's recent 5:3 ruling 
>> against 
>> Texas' anti-abortion law 
>> 
>>  
>> and 4:3 decision on affirmative action ( Fisher v. University of Texas 
>> ), that even 
>> division is an illusion. In both cases, it came down to "Justice" Anthony 
>> Kennedy siding with 

Re: Philo Castile

[Navybrat]

I'm looking for it Keith...I always us my pcIt's not showing an arrow 
that I can see. But I'll keep looking. Thanks!

On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 5:54:40 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Hey Ms. Navy!
>
> I don't use my phone on this site, but on my PC or laptop, there is a 
> little arrow down in the bottom right hand corner of each and every message 
> that you "Get Ready" to post (or maybe better said, "Compose") which has a 
> spell check feature:
>
>
> ​
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Haven't got an answer...see!
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 5:11:06 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>>
>>> So far I having got an answer to the editing ability here. It would be 
>>> very helpful for someone like me who types way to fast and sloppy!
>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 4:59:46 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was actually wondering if there is a way to edit on here. I take it 
>>>> there isn't? I've wanted to edit some and didn't recall.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:50:49 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good grief! I really need an edit button!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's so good to see someone else that see's what I see!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And standup and speaks it.  On Euwetopia, I get pigeon holed at a 
>>>>>> racist for even daring to thing that way!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: Philo Castile

[Navybrat]

So far I having got an answer to the editing ability here. It would be very 
helpful for someone like me who types way to fast and sloppy!
On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 4:59:46 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> I was actually wondering if there is a way to edit on here. I take it 
> there isn't? I've wanted to edit some and didn't recall.
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:50:49 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> Good grief! I really need an edit button!
>>
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>>
>>> It's so good to see someone else that see's what I see!
>>>
>>> And standup and speaks it.  On Euwetopia, I get pigeon holed at a racist 
>>> for even daring to thing that way!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>

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Re: Philo Castile

[Navybrat]

Haven't got an answer...see!

On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 5:11:06 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>
> So far I having got an answer to the editing ability here. It would be 
> very helpful for someone like me who types way to fast and sloppy!
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 4:59:46 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was actually wondering if there is a way to edit on here. I take it 
>> there isn't? I've wanted to edit some and didn't recall.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:50:49 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>>
>>> Good grief! I really need an edit button!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's so good to see someone else that see's what I see!
>>>>
>>>> And standup and speaks it.  On Euwetopia, I get pigeon holed at a 
>>>> racist for even daring to thing that way!
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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Re: Philo Castile

[Navybrat]

I remember too. 

On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 4:58:18 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> LOL, I knew what you meant. And I well remember being called any number of 
> names for stating the truth on Euwedopia!
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:50:49 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> Good grief! I really need an edit button!
>>
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>>
>>> It's so good to see someone else that see's what I see!
>>>
>>> And standup and speaks it.  On Euwetopia, I get pigeon holed at a racist 
>>> for even daring to thing that way!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>

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Re: Philo Castile

[Navybrat]

Good grief! I really need an edit button!

On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 3:49:04 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>
> It's so good to see someone else that see's what I see!
>
> And standup and speaks it.  On Euwetopia, I get pigeon holed at a racist 
> for even daring to thing that way!
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 11:55:23 AM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>>

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Re: Testing Testing...

[Navybrat]

Thanks fedup...I know Plainol well...and actually like him most of the 
time. He can be an ass...but he does know when to stop with me when I ask 
or get pissed at him. ;)

I appreciate you trying to give me that heads up. He knows me pretty well 
too. I think. lol...

On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:06:30 PM UTC-6, fed up wrote:

> Ms. Navy, sorry you had to bear the brunt of plain ol.  He is an expert 
> level troll that rarely engages in any kind of logical discourse.  That 
> being said, he is obviously intelligent and can be thought provoking if you 
> can get past the loutish self importance, bluster, over the top vulgarity 
> and unhealthy obsession with Jews and Christians. He gets under all of our 
> skin from time to time, it is nothing personal.
>
> *Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid*
> On Jul 8, 2016 3:42 PM, plainolamerican <plainol...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
> What's your excuse? You hate everyone under the guise of we're all the 
> 'human race'.
> ---
> it's true ... there is only one human race on the planet right now.
>
>  Ya, as long as you don't believe in God, or accept gays as normal, or 
> hate Israel.
> ---
> gods were created in the imaginations of man, gays are humans, and I don't 
> hate israel or their muzzy enemies. I do pity them and wish our government 
> would stop arming and funding their silly war.
>
> You have no clean hands to accuse me of anything. So leave it and leave me 
> be. Stop following me around to attack me on every thread. Even a stupid 
> thread about bacon!
> ---
> I'm not following you ... your just the only one here ... calm down ... 
> pet your pussy ... I'll see you around.
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:31:07 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>
> WEll...that's your opinion and I can't deny the hate that's developed in 
> me. 
>
> What's your excuse? You hate everyone under the guise of we're all the 
> 'human race'. Ya, as long as you don't believe in God, or accept gays as 
> normal, or hate Israel. 
>
> You have no clean hands to accuse me of anything. So leave it and leave me 
> be. Stop following me around to attack me on every thread. Even a stupid 
> thread about bacon!
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 1:24:37 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>
> Just being honest. I can get down and dirty with the best of them. I had 
> the best teachers.
> ---
> yes ... I witnessed your transformation from a sweet amiable xian woman to 
> a conservative homophobic and islamophobic warrior. 
> Congrats!!!
>
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>
> Just being honest. I can get down and dirty with the best of them. I had 
> the best teachers.
>  
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>
> I'm not quite the grace and charm  one any longer. Years of the libs on 
> Euwetopia has hardened me.
> ---
> does that make your husband horny?
>
> just kiddin'
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 8:07:27 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>
> Oh Keith...you're sweet!..I'm not quite the grace and charm  one any 
> longer. Years of the libs on Euwetopia has hardened me. :) But I treat 
> people how they treat me. Thankyou for the intro and the welcome!
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:51:02 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> Hey Everyone!
>
> Meet one of the original crew of Political Forum!  Group:  Meet Ms. Navy!
>
> A class act, and the epitome of grace and charm!  We're glad to have you 
> back in the Group fold!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> HelloNice to meet you, gtheist.
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:41:27 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>
> Do you mean literally or the ones who still hold on to some sanity?
> On Jul 7, 2016 7:38 PM, "Dotis Navybrat" <navyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello...anybody home??
>
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Re: Testing Testing...

[Navybrat]

ok...petting pussy as I type...;) 

On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 1:42:43 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>
> What's your excuse? You hate everyone under the guise of we're all the 
> 'human race'.
> ---
> it's true ... there is only one human race on the planet right now.
>
>  Ya, as long as you don't believe in God, or accept gays as normal, or 
> hate Israel.
> ---
> gods were created in the imaginations of man, gays are humans, and I don't 
> hate israel or their muzzy enemies. I do pity them and wish our government 
> would stop arming and funding their silly war.
>
> You have no clean hands to accuse me of anything. So leave it and leave me 
> be. Stop following me around to attack me on every thread. Even a stupid 
> thread about bacon!
> ---
> I'm not following you ... your just the only one here ... calm down ... 
> pet your pussy ... I'll see you around.
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:31:07 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> WEll...that's your opinion and I can't deny the hate that's developed in 
>> me. 
>>
>> What's your excuse? You hate everyone under the guise of we're all the 
>> 'human race'. Ya, as long as you don't believe in God, or accept gays as 
>> normal, or hate Israel. 
>>
>> You have no clean hands to accuse me of anything. So leave it and leave 
>> me be. Stop following me around to attack me on every thread. Even a stupid 
>> thread about bacon!
>>
>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 1:24:37 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>>
>>> Just being honest. I can get down and dirty with the best of them. I had 
>>> the best teachers.
>>> ---
>>> yes ... I witnessed your transformation from a sweet amiable xian woman 
>>> to a conservative homophobic and islamophobic warrior. 
>>> Congrats!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just being honest. I can get down and dirty with the best of them. I 
>>>> had the best teachers.
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not quite the grace and charm  one any longer. Years of the libs 
>>>>> on Euwetopia has hardened me.
>>>>> ---
>>>>> does that make your husband horny?
>>>>>
>>>>> just kiddin'
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 8:07:27 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh Keith...you're sweet!..I'm not quite the grace and charm  one any 
>>>>>> longer. Years of the libs on Euwetopia has hardened me. :) But I treat 
>>>>>> people how they treat me. Thankyou for the intro and the welcome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:51:02 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meet one of the original crew of Political Forum!  Group:  Meet Ms. 
>>>>>>> Navy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A class act, and the epitome of grace and charm!  We're glad to have 
>>>>>>> you back in the Group fold!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HelloNice to meet you, gtheist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:41:27 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you mean literally or the ones who still hold on to some sanity?
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2016 7:38 PM, "Dotis Navybrat" <navyb...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello...anybody home??
>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: 15 Deliciously Unexpected Ways To Eat Even More Bacon

[Navybrat]

ticles/1355-is-the-*law*
> -of-moses-torah-still-binding
> <https://www.google.com/#>
>
>1. 
>
> <https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aZDylfmHcG4J:https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1355-is-the-law-of-moses-torah-still-binding+=9=en=clnk=us>
>2. 
>
> <https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366=643=related:https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1355-is-the-law-of-moses-torah-still-binding+jewish+laws+says+christians=1=X=0ahUKEwiEq7X2yuTNAhWNNx4KHcKaARkQHwhYMAg>
>
> Though the law of Moses was still operative until the death of Christ (and 
> its civil  David J. Williams, says that Paul's reference to “the Jewish 
> law in Ephesians ...
> Are Christians Bound by the Law of Moses? | CARM 
> <https://carm.org/christians-bound-by-law>
> https://carm.org/*christians*-bound-by-*law*
> <https://www.google.com/#>
>
>1. 
>
> <https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Bnsc04wCbIkJ:https://carm.org/christians-bound-by-law+=10=en=clnk=us>
>2. 
>
> <https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366=643=related:https://carm.org/christians-bound-by-law+jewish+laws+says+christians=1=X=0ahUKEwiEq7X2yuTNAhWNNx4KHcKaARkQHwheMAk>
>
> The first Christians were Jews, and Jews predominated in the church in 
> its ... 15:24 tells us that they were saying "you must be circumcised and 
> keep the Law.".
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:15:47 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> Fuck off Plainol...you crossing lines again.
>>
>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>>>
>>> I gave up pork 4 years ago. 
>>> ---
>>> in an attempt to observe jewish law.
>>> did you also let a jewish rabbi suck your son's penis blood after his 
>>> circumcision?
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 8:40:56 AM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Don't hate me ...but I gave up pork 4 years ago. I do like beef, 
>>>> buffalo and turkey bacon as replacements. I know...not quite the 
>>>> same...but 
>>>> good enough!
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 6:28:13 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.buzzfeed.com/peasandpeonies/15-times-bacon-never-let-you-down-1vim4?utm_term=.hxEzDnR2R#.jpoJ5xl4l
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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Re: Testing Testing...

[Navybrat]

WEll...that's your opinion and I can't deny the hate that's developed in 
me. 

What's your excuse? You hate everyone under the guise of we're all the 
'human race'. Ya, as long as you don't believe in God, or accept gays as 
normal, or hate Israel. 

You have no clean hands to accuse me of anything. So leave it and leave me 
be. Stop following me around to attack me on every thread. Even a stupid 
thread about bacon!

On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 1:24:37 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:

> Just being honest. I can get down and dirty with the best of them. I had 
> the best teachers.
> ---
> yes ... I witnessed your transformation from a sweet amiable xian woman to 
> a conservative homophobic and islamophobic warrior. 
> Congrats!!!
>
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> Just being honest. I can get down and dirty with the best of them. I had 
>> the best teachers.
>>  
>>
>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not quite the grace and charm  one any longer. Years of the libs on 
>>> Euwetopia has hardened me.
>>> ---
>>> does that make your husband horny?
>>>
>>> just kiddin'
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 8:07:27 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh Keith...you're sweet!..I'm not quite the grace and charm  one any 
>>>> longer. Years of the libs on Euwetopia has hardened me. :) But I treat 
>>>> people how they treat me. Thankyou for the intro and the welcome!
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:51:02 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> Meet one of the original crew of Political Forum!  Group:  Meet Ms. 
>>>>> Navy!
>>>>>
>>>>> A class act, and the epitome of grace and charm!  We're glad to have 
>>>>> you back in the Group fold!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HelloNice to meet you, gtheist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:41:27 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean literally or the ones who still hold on to some sanity?
>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2016 7:38 PM, "Dotis Navybrat" <navyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello...anybody home??
>>>>>>>>
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Re: 15 Deliciously Unexpected Ways To Eat Even More Bacon

[Navybrat]

Fuck off Plainol...you crossing lines again.

On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:
>
> I gave up pork 4 years ago. 
> ---
> in an attempt to observe jewish law.
> did you also let a jewish rabbi suck your son's penis blood after his 
> circumcision?
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 8:40:56 AM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> Don't hate me ...but I gave up pork 4 years ago. I do like beef, buffalo 
>> and turkey bacon as replacements. I know...not quite the same...but good 
>> enough!
>>
>> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 6:28:13 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.buzzfeed.com/peasandpeonies/15-times-bacon-never-let-you-down-1vim4?utm_term=.hxEzDnR2R#.jpoJ5xl4l
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: Testing Testing...

[Navybrat]

Just being honest. I can get down and dirty with the best of them. I had 
the best teachers.
 

On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 11:32:42 AM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote:

> I'm not quite the grace and charm  one any longer. Years of the libs on 
> Euwetopia has hardened me.
> ---
> does that make your husband horny?
>
> just kiddin'
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 8:07:27 PM UTC-5, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> Oh Keith...you're sweet!..I'm not quite the grace and charm  one any 
>> longer. Years of the libs on Euwetopia has hardened me. :) But I treat 
>> people how they treat me. Thankyou for the intro and the welcome!
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:51:02 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Everyone!
>>>
>>> Meet one of the original crew of Political Forum!  Group:  Meet Ms. Navy!
>>>
>>> A class act, and the epitome of grace and charm!  We're glad to have you 
>>> back in the Group fold!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> HelloNice to meet you, gtheist.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:41:27 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean literally or the ones who still hold on to some sanity?
>>>>> On Jul 7, 2016 7:38 PM, "Dotis Navybrat" <navyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello...anybody home??
>>>>>>
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Re: 15 Deliciously Unexpected Ways To Eat Even More Bacon

[Navybrat]

Don't hate me ...but I gave up pork 4 years ago. I do like beef, buffalo 
and turkey bacon as replacements. I know...not quite the same...but good 
enough!

On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 6:28:13 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.buzzfeed.com/peasandpeonies/15-times-bacon-never-let-you-down-1vim4?utm_term=.hxEzDnR2R#.jpoJ5xl4l
>  
>
>
>

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Re: Watch this video clip of Clinton from February of 2015

[Navybrat]

I'm writing that title down. Sounds like a good read. 
I've never doubted her and slick willy's corruption. Not to mention the 
ineptness, the lacking of character...and just plain 'sleeze' factor. From 
the day she stayed with that cheating SOB...I have had absolutely no 
respect for her at woman...let alone a leader!

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 8:20:36 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:

>
> It's bizarre Navy. My husband just finished reading that book ("Crisis of 
> Character") by the guy who stood guard outside of the Oval Office while 
> Clinton was president. He couldn't put it down; said that seeing what she's 
> done with this email stuff (lying, parsing the words, changing the lie, 
> lying some more, destroying evidence) makes every bit of the shit we have 
> heard for years about the Clintons is all likely true. I agree.
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 9:41:37 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> It wouldn't matter to them...they're bots when it comes to Kankles. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 7:32:16 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/Ite7mDrnbYU
>>>
>>> She admits in the very first question that she used multiple devices; 
>>> more proof her claim that she set up the server so she could have 
>>> everything on one device was just another lie.
>>>
>>> And her idiot supporters think she's smart? Sheesh!
>>>
>>

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Re: Watch this video clip of Clinton from February of 2015

[Navybrat]

It wouldn't matter to them...they're bots when it comes to Kankles. 

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 7:32:16 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> https://youtu.be/Ite7mDrnbYU
>
> She admits in the very first question that she used multiple devices; more 
> proof her claim that she set up the server so she could have everything on 
> one device was just another lie.
>
> And her idiot supporters think she's smart? Sheesh!
>

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Re: Hi Perp!

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It's ok...I'm normally not paranoid! LOL!

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 7:34:27 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, I took the dog for a walk. She takes her sweet time, lol.
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 9:25:24 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> I guess I'm on ignoreI see you here, don't know what I have done. I 
>> do hope all has been well with you.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 7:08:18 PM UTC-6, Navybrat wrote:
>>>
>>> It's been ages...hope all is well. :)
>>>
>>

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Re: Hi Perp!

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Oh there you are! I saw you were here and started thinking you were mad at 
me or something! Sorry...
We are good. I have 2 granddaughters now. :) 10 and 8. 
It's so good to see someof the old peeps again. How's Turtle? please tell 
him hello for me when you speak. 

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 7:33:07 PM UTC-6, Perplexed wrote:

>
> Hey Navy! All is well with me; thanks. How about you and your family?
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 9:08:18 PM UTC-4, Navybrat wrote:
>>
>> It's been ages...hope all is well. :)
>>
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Re: Hi Perp!

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I guess I'm on ignoreI see you here, don't know what I have done. I do 
hope all has been well with you.

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> It's been ages...hope all is well. :)
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It's been ages...hope all is well. :)

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Re: Testing Testing...

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Oh Keith...you're sweet!..I'm not quite the grace and charm  one any 
longer. Years of the libs on Euwetopia has hardened me. :) But I treat 
people how they treat me. Thankyou for the intro and the welcome!

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> Hey Everyone!
>
> Meet one of the original crew of Political Forum!  Group:  Meet Ms. Navy!
>
> A class act, and the epitome of grace and charm!  We're glad to have you 
> back in the Group fold!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Navybrat <navyb...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> HelloNice to meet you, gtheist.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:41:27 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you mean literally or the ones who still hold on to some sanity?
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Re: Testing Testing...

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Thank you...I'll get my feet wet soon. :)


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> Well it's nice to meet you. I think there are some folks about so pick a 
> topic state a position we either argue or commiserate. So belly up and 
> welcome aboard.
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>> HelloNice to meet you, gtheist.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:41:27 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote:
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>>> Do you mean literally or the ones who still hold on to some sanity?
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Re: Testing Testing...

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HelloNice to meet you, gtheist.

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> Do you mean literally or the ones who still hold on to some sanity?
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Testin Testing...

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Yeah...I'm in!


Is there an edit button?



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Testing Testing...

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Hello...anybody home??

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Re: Just popping in to.....

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I've missed you too. A person's gotta do what they gotta do, but it's
nice to see you again, especially this time of year!

On Dec 23, 8:53 pm, Mrs. Rabbit mrs.whiterab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Go ahead and call PETA, it won't be the first time!  ;)

 Have missed talking with you!!!  I have just too much on my plate for
 the boards these days, but with Christmas break here, I hope to catch
 up some.

 Take care!

 On Dec 23, 10:50 pm, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:



  groan! ;-)

  On Dec 23, 8:05 pm, Mrs. Rabbit mrs.whiterab...@gmail.com wrote:

   What does Santa call reindeer who refuse to work?

   wait for it

   wait for it

   DINNER!

   :D

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Re: Just popping in to.....

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Thanks Travis!

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 Merry Christmas to you too NavyBrat.



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Re: Urgent!

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As Turtle would say droll .-)

On Dec 23, 9:05 pm, Mrs. Rabbit mrs.whiterab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Christmas Restructure
 Urgent: Famous Reindeer Terminated
 The recent announcement that Donner and Blitzen have elected to take
 the early reindeer retirement package has triggered a good deal of
 concern about whether they will be replaced, and about other
 restructuring decisions at the North Pole.

 Streamlining is due to the North Pole's loss of dominance of the
 season's gift distribution business. Home shopping channels and mail
 order catalogues have diminished Santa's market share. He could not
 sit idly by and permit further erosion of the profit picture.

 The reindeer downsizing was made possible through the purchase of a
 late model Japanese sled for the CEO's annual trip. Improved
 productivity from Dasher and Dancer, who summered at the Harvard
 Business School, is anticipated. Reduction in reindeer will also
 lessen airborne environmental emissions for which the North Pole has
 received unfavorable press.

 I am pleased to inform you that Rudolph's role will not be disturbed.
 Tradition still counts for something at the North Pole. Management
 denies, in the strongest possible language, the earlier leak that
 Rudolph's nose got that way, not from the cold, substance abuse.
 Calling Rudolph a lush who was into the sauce and never did pull his
 share of the load was an unfortunate context at a time of year when
 he is known to be under executive stress.

 As a further restructuring, today's global challenges require the
 North Pole to continue to look for better, more competitive steps.
 Effective immediately, the following economy measures are to take
 place in the Twelve Days of Christmas subsidiary:

 The partridge will be retained, but the pear tree never turned out to
 be the cash crop forecasted. It will be replaced by a plastic hanging
 plant, providing considerable savings in maintenance;

 The two turtle doves represent a redundancy that is simply not cost
 effective. In addition, their romance during working hours could not
 be condoned. The positions are therefore eliminated;

 The three French hens will remain intact. After all, everyone loves
 the French;

 The four calling birds were replaced by an automated voice mail
 system, with a call waiting option. An analysis is underway to
 determine who the birds have been calling, how often and how long they
 talked;

 The five golden rings have been put on hold by the Board of Directors.
 Maintaining a portfolio based on one commodity could have negative
 implications for institutional investors. Diversification into other
 precious metals as well as a mix of T-Bills and high technology stocks
 appear to be in order;

 The six geese-a-laying constitutes a luxury which can no longer be
 afforded. It has long been felt that the production rate of one egg
 per goose per day is an example of the decline in productivity. Three
 geese will be let go, and an upgrading in the selection procedure by
 personnel will assure management that from now on every goose it gets
 will be a good one;

 The seven swans-a-swimming is obviously a number chosen in better
 times. The function is primarily decorative. Mechanical swans are on
 order. The current swans will be retrained to learn some new strokes
 and therefore enhance their outplacement;

 As you know, the eight maids-a-milking concept has been under heavy
 scrutiny by the EEOC. A male/female balance in the workforce is being
 sought. The more militant maids consider this a dead-end job with no
 upward mobility. Automation of the process may permit the maids to try
 a-mending, a-mentoring or a-mulching;

 Nine ladies dancing has always been an odd number. This function will
 be phased out as these individuals grow older and can no longer do the
 steps;

 Ten Lords-a-leaping is overkill. The high cost of Lords plus the
 expense of international air travel prompted the Compensation
 Committee to suggest replacing this group with ten out-of-work
 congressmen. While leaping ability may be somewhat sacrificed, the
 savings are significant because we expect an oversupply of unemployed
 congressmen this year;

 Eleven pipers piping and twelve drummers drumming is a simple case of
 the band getting too big. A substitution with a string quartet, a
 cutback on new music and no uniforms will produce savings which will
 drop right down to the bottom line.

 We can expect a substantial reduction in assorted people, fowl,
 animals and other expenses. Though incomplete, studies indicate that
 stretching deliveries over twelve days is inefficient. If we can drop
 ship in one day, service levels will be improved.

 Regarding the lawsuit filed by the attorney's association seeking
 expansion to include the legal profession (thirteen lawyers-a-suing)
 action is pending.

 Lastly, it is not beyond consideration that deeper cuts may be
 necessary in the future to stay competitive. should that happen, the
 Board will 

Re: Just popping in to.....

[NavyBrat]

Merry Christmas Keith and to you too Holly! :-)

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 To all of my bud's here at Political Forum,  here's wishing you all a very
 Merry Christmas!!

 Good to see ya Mrs. Navy, Mrs. Rabbit, Travis, Dave, and everyone else here
 at PF!!

 Keith (In Tampa This Week...)



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   Merry Christmas to you too NavyBrat.

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Peace.

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Wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Peace.

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Re: Just popping in to.....

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groan! ;-)

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 What does Santa call reindeer who refuse to work?

 wait for it

 wait for it

 DINNER!

 :D

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Re: Where were you when Kennedy was shot?

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I was in the nurses office at school ( 3rd or 4th grade I
think)...when I returned to my class all the kids had their heads down
on desks ( following the announcement over the school intercome) and
were crying. Tho I didn't understand the magnitude of the event at the
time, I layed my head down and cried too. It was scary to see the
emotions of the students and teachers.  That memory is what stayed
with me from the time. :-(

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 was sitting in a small office typing menus, when the food checker
 stuck his head in and exclaimed, President Kennedy was shot!
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Re: Happy Father's Day To All You Dads....................

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Here Here! Have a great day dads!

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Re: This guy is totally whacko

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He's certainly an adventurer! It's a cool idea if it works.

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Re: Smoking bans at restaurants are more of a workplace health issue

[NavyBrat]

I have stated how I feel about the ban on smoking and why. What doyou
want? Me to care that you are upset you can't light up nect to me
because the law says you can't? That ain't gonna happen. I still
thrilled I don't have to smell you or your tobacco 'scent'. So sue me.
Banging your head agaisnt a wall?.. They say insanity is doing
something over and over that doesn't have the outcome that you want or
expect. That would make you crazy...because nothing you can write will
make me change my mind on my happiness that you can't smoke in the
same public building I'm in. You lost , get over it and smoke yourself
silly in the cold. Or hey...do the smart thing and quit. You'll live
longer and so will the victims of your exhaled poisons. But stop
whinning about something that isn't going to change back to the old
ways. The public demanded it , as they should.

On Mar 16, 3:10 am, AmericanBuilt.us i...@americanbuilt.us wrote:
 On Mar 15, 8:17 pm, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:

  what about restaurant owners in THEIR OWN bars?
  or business owners in THEIR OWN office buildings?
  *
  As I said in my post. Not the same as a private home. The restuarants
  and bars have health codes they have to meet to serve the public.
  Smoking falls well within those health codes to be concerned about.
  The filtration systems weren't adequate enough, and didn't protect the
  workers health either.

 it's like banging my head against a wall...

 is this crap you've invented - or did a POLITICIAN feed it to you?

 compare the typical amount of smoke in a bar with OSHA
 requirements...

 OSHA = Occupational Safety  Health Administrations

 = WORK HEALTH CODE

 and NOT ALL offices are public, mine wasn't
 WTF were small businesses REQUIRED to spend (taxable) $100,000s on
 smoke eaters right before the ban

 Environmental Tobacco Smoke (ETS)

 Because the organic material in tobacco doesn't burn completely,
 cigarette smoke contains more than 4,700 chemical compounds. Although
 OSHA has no regulation that addresses tobacco smoke as a whole, 29 CFR
 1910.1000 Air contaminants, limits employee exposure to several of the
 main chemical components found in tobacco smoke. In normal situations,
 exposures would not exceed these permissible exposure limits (PELs),
 and, as a matter of prosecutorial discretion, OSHA will not apply the
 General Duty Clause to ETS.

 For further information to offer to employers/employees as guidance,
 you may wish to review a document published by the U.S. Environmental
 Protection Agency (EPA) about the health effects from environmental
 tobacco smoke, A Fact Sheet: Respiratory Health Effects of Passive
 Smoking. Additional information on indoor air quality in general can
 be found on the Indoor Air Quality Technical Links page on the OSHA
 website.

 We hope you find this information helpful. If you have any questions,
 please feel free to contact the Office of Health Enforcement at (202)
 693-2190

 now call them and ASK WHY OSHA HAS NO REGULATION THAT ADDRESSES
 TOBACCO

 ASK FOR A SCIENTIFIC REPORT THAT PROVES SMOKING CAUSES CANCER

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Re: Smoking bans at restaurants are more of a workplace health issue

[NavyBrat]

Morning rigsy. I hate over use of perfums also. I have gotten more
sensitive to those kinds of sscents over the years. I always wonder
what they are trying to hide? Bathing and a lite spritz goes a long
way in smelling acceptable.
As far as Obama smoking...I think he's a bad example in that. I
understand the addiction and his right to do it. But there is no doubt
in my mind that some kid is going to see him and emulate him because
hey...if the president thinks its ok just saying

On Mar 16, 6:51 am, rigsy03 rigs...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The public changed government's mind about Prohibition so the same
 could happen to smoking- one cannot be sure of anything absolutely.
 Sorry you don't like the smell of tobacco. I do- especially pipes or
 cigars. What I can't stand is getting into an elevator with overly
 perfumed women. Or wondering how many germs are mutating under long
 painted fingernails. BTW, Obama smokes- what do you think of that?

 On Mar 16, 7:19 am, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:



  I have stated how I feel about the ban on smoking and why. What doyou
  want? Me to care that you are upset you can't light up nect to me
  because the law says you can't? That ain't gonna happen. I still
  thrilled I don't have to smell you or your tobacco 'scent'. So sue me.
  Banging your head agaisnt a wall?.. They say insanity is doing
  something over and over that doesn't have the outcome that you want or
  expect. That would make you crazy...because nothing you can write will
  make me change my mind on my happiness that you can't smoke in the
  same public building I'm in. You lost , get over it and smoke yourself
  silly in the cold. Or hey...do the smart thing and quit. You'll live
  longer and so will the victims of your exhaled poisons. But stop
  whinning about something that isn't going to change back to the old
  ways. The public demanded it , as they should.

  On Mar 16, 3:10 am, AmericanBuilt.us i...@americanbuilt.us wrote:

   On Mar 15, 8:17 pm, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:

what about restaurant owners in THEIR OWN bars?
or business owners in THEIR OWN office buildings?
*
As I said in my post. Not the same as a private home. The restuarants
and bars have health codes they have to meet to serve the public.
Smoking falls well within those health codes to be concerned about.
The filtration systems weren't adequate enough, and didn't protect the
workers health either.

   it's like banging my head against a wall...

   is this crap you've invented - or did a POLITICIAN feed it to you?

   compare the typical amount of smoke in a bar with OSHA
   requirements...

   OSHA = Occupational Safety  Health Administrations

   = WORK HEALTH CODE

   and NOT ALL offices are public, mine wasn't
   WTF were small businesses REQUIRED to spend (taxable) $100,000s on
   smoke eaters right before the ban

   Environmental Tobacco Smoke (ETS)

   Because the organic material in tobacco doesn't burn completely,
   cigarette smoke contains more than 4,700 chemical compounds. Although
   OSHA has no regulation that addresses tobacco smoke as a whole, 29 CFR
   1910.1000 Air contaminants, limits employee exposure to several of the
   main chemical components found in tobacco smoke. In normal situations,
   exposures would not exceed these permissible exposure limits (PELs),
   and, as a matter of prosecutorial discretion, OSHA will not apply the
   General Duty Clause to ETS.

   For further information to offer to employers/employees as guidance,
   you may wish to review a document published by the U.S. Environmental
   Protection Agency (EPA) about the health effects from environmental
   tobacco smoke, A Fact Sheet: Respiratory Health Effects of Passive
   Smoking. Additional information on indoor air quality in general can
   be found on the Indoor Air Quality Technical Links page on the OSHA
   website.

   We hope you find this information helpful. If you have any questions,
   please feel free to contact the Office of Health Enforcement at (202)
   693-2190

   now call them and ASK WHY OSHA HAS NO REGULATION THAT ADDRESSES
   TOBACCO

   ASK FOR A SCIENTIFIC REPORT THAT PROVES SMOKING CAUSES CANCER

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Re: Smoking bans at restaurants are more of a workplace health issue

[NavyBrat]

Morning sweetie! Thankyou for being so conscience of others breathing
issues. Sounds like a lovely evening out. Did you kick up t he dance
floor too?  I love to dance after a couple of drinks. ;-) Not very
good at it, but its fun.

On Mar 16, 7:48 am, Mrs. Rabbit mrs.whiterab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mornin' chick!

 Congrats on putting the cigs down!  It's HARD as hell, but can be
 done!

 Believe it or not, but hubby actually took me OUT this weekend.  It
 was a small bar, with a live band (hubby is good friends with a member
 or else we wouldn't have been there) and smoking wasn't allowed on the
 inside of the building, only on the outside deck facing the ocean.  It
 was a nice set up.  However, I was concerned before getting there how
 smokey it would be once inside.  I was pleased to see the smokers
 being directed outside due to the smoking ban.  Now, as a smoker, I
 wouldn't have mind going outside because I know there are people who
 have breathing problems including but not limited to asthma.   Ever
 seen the pic of a fish lying beside a fishbowl full of water?  The
 caption below is burned in my mindAsthma is like being a fish out
 of water...

 On Mar 16, 9:29 am, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:



  Morning rigsy. I hate over use of perfums also. I have gotten more
  sensitive to those kinds of sscents over the years. I always wonder
  what they are trying to hide? Bathing and a lite spritz goes a long
  way in smelling acceptable.
  As far as Obama smoking...I think he's a bad example in that. I
  understand the addiction and his right to do it. But there is no doubt
  in my mind that some kid is going to see him and emulate him because
  hey...if the president thinks its ok just saying

  On Mar 16, 6:51 am, rigsy03 rigs...@yahoo.com wrote:

   The public changed government's mind about Prohibition so the same
   could happen to smoking- one cannot be sure of anything absolutely.
   Sorry you don't like the smell of tobacco. I do- especially pipes or
   cigars. What I can't stand is getting into an elevator with overly
   perfumed women. Or wondering how many germs are mutating under long
   painted fingernails. BTW, Obama smokes- what do you think of that?

   On Mar 16, 7:19 am, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:

I have stated how I feel about the ban on smoking and why. What doyou
want? Me to care that you are upset you can't light up nect to me
because the law says you can't? That ain't gonna happen. I still
thrilled I don't have to smell you or your tobacco 'scent'. So sue me.
Banging your head agaisnt a wall?.. They say insanity is doing
something over and over that doesn't have the outcome that you want or
expect. That would make you crazy...because nothing you can write will
make me change my mind on my happiness that you can't smoke in the
same public building I'm in. You lost , get over it and smoke yourself
silly in the cold. Or hey...do the smart thing and quit. You'll live
longer and so will the victims of your exhaled poisons. But stop
whinning about something that isn't going to change back to the old
ways. The public demanded it , as they should.

On Mar 16, 3:10 am, AmericanBuilt.us i...@americanbuilt.us wrote:

 On Mar 15, 8:17 pm, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:

  what about restaurant owners in THEIR OWN bars?
  or business owners in THEIR OWN office buildings?
  *
  As I said in my post. Not the same as a private home. The 
  restuarants
  and bars have health codes they have to meet to serve the public.
  Smoking falls well within those health codes to be concerned about.
  The filtration systems weren't adequate enough, and didn't protect 
  the
  workers health either.

 it's like banging my head against a wall...

 is this crap you've invented - or did a POLITICIAN feed it to you?

 compare the typical amount of smoke in a bar with OSHA
 requirements...

 OSHA = Occupational Safety  Health Administrations

 = WORK HEALTH CODE

 and NOT ALL offices are public, mine wasn't
 WTF were small businesses REQUIRED to spend (taxable) $100,000s on
 smoke eaters right before the ban

 Environmental Tobacco Smoke (ETS)

 Because the organic material in tobacco doesn't burn completely,
 cigarette smoke contains more than 4,700 chemical compounds. Although
 OSHA has no regulation that addresses tobacco smoke as a whole, 29 CFR
 1910.1000 Air contaminants, limits employee exposure to several of the
 main chemical components found in tobacco smoke. In normal situations,
 exposures would not exceed these permissible exposure limits (PELs),
 and, as a matter of prosecutorial discretion, OSHA will not apply the
 General Duty Clause to ETS.

 For further information to offer to employers/employees as guidance,
 you may wish to review a document published

Re: Smoking bans at restaurants are more of a workplace health issue

[NavyBrat]

That's right...I don't care about you standing in the cold . I did it
for years and didn't bitch and moan about it. I never smoked in my own
home when my children lived there. Because any fool knows ciggerettes
aren't good for developing lungs. It's the law now and I don't feel
sorry for you needs what so ever. It's nice not smell your habit on me
when I  go out to have a nice meal or a few drinks.
Nah...you stfuI staid I was up front about my reasons for being
thrilled with the country going smokeless in public places. That you
don't like it makes no never mind to me. puff away bozo. Just do it
out side in the cold away from me and mine.

On Mar 14, 4:42 pm, AmericanBuilt.us i...@americanbuilt.us wrote:
 On Mar 14, 7:50 am, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:

  Your freedoms don't out freedom mine. ;).

 i see how you are. your freedom to get what YOU WANT is more important
 than mine. maybe instead of me standing outside smoking in the cold...
 you should stop taking your children to eat in a BAR where people
 DRINK  SMOKE...

 you quit because you wanted to and had THE FREEDOM to...

 when women or blacks asked for the right to vote, did they demand that
 it be ILLEGAL for all white men to vote? why can't the OWNER of the
 bar HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DECIDE if they want to lose 80% of their
 business ($ to support their family AND the families of ALL their
 employees) to get a scumbag looser like yourself to stop WHINING
 about what stinks.

 ever think that maybe 200+ bar owners who LOST THEIR FAMILY BUSINESS
 and their 2000+ (now unemployed) employees, might be sitting in a
 house that is being foreclosed, with children whom they cannot afford
 to clothe or feed - are thinking to themselves right now, THIS
 STINKS!. not to mention the people now competing for lower paying
 jobs with them.

 either find me a SCIENTIFIC report that PROVES 2nd-hand smoke causes
 cancer - or STFU and stop whining like a crybaby about what stinks -
 because if you ask me, people who FORCE THEIR will upon others with no
 care for THEIR feelings or rights: stink...
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Re: Smoking bans at restaurants are more of a workplace health issue

[NavyBrat]

I don't have a problem with that. The problem prior to the ban was
'every' restuarant allowed smoking. If it were divided up and there
where an equal number of licenses for smoking and non smoking
establishments( I don't want to drive 12 miles to find a smokefree
place) that would be an equatablesolution. But until that would
happen...I'm enjoying the clean air.
On Mar 15, 8:24 am, Mark markmka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Darlin',

 How would you feel about establishments being able to declare themselves
 smoking or non-smoking ??

 Smokers don't enter non-smoking establishments and non-smokers don't enter
 smoking permitted establishments.

 Shouldn't everyone be able to be accommodated and have a choice as to where
 to go without government interference (again) in a legal pursuit ?

 I agree that malls, stores, and Government buildings should be smoke free as
 it is not possible to segregate in these places.





 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:08 AM, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:

  That's right...I don't care about you standing in the cold . I did it
  for years and didn't bitch and moan about it. I never smoked in my own
  home when my children lived there. Because any fool knows ciggerettes
  aren't good for developing lungs. It's the law now and I don't feel
  sorry for you needs what so ever. It's nice not smell your habit on me
  when I  go out to have a nice meal or a few drinks.
  Nah...you stfuI staid I was up front about my reasons for being
  thrilled with the country going smokeless in public places. That you
  don't like it makes no never mind to me. puff away bozo. Just do it
  out side in the cold away from me and mine.

  On Mar 14, 4:42 pm, AmericanBuilt.us i...@americanbuilt.us wrote:
   On Mar 14, 7:50 am, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:

Your freedoms don't out freedom mine. ;).

   i see how you are. your freedom to get what YOU WANT is more important
   than mine. maybe instead of me standing outside smoking in the cold...
   you should stop taking your children to eat in a BAR where people
   DRINK  SMOKE...

   you quit because you wanted to and had THE FREEDOM to...

   when women or blacks asked for the right to vote, did they demand that
   it be ILLEGAL for all white men to vote? why can't the OWNER of the
   bar HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DECIDE if they want to lose 80% of their
   business ($ to support their family AND the families of ALL their
   employees) to get a scumbag looser like yourself to stop WHINING
   about what stinks.

   ever think that maybe 200+ bar owners who LOST THEIR FAMILY BUSINESS
   and their 2000+ (now unemployed) employees, might be sitting in a
   house that is being foreclosed, with children whom they cannot afford
   to clothe or feed - are thinking to themselves right now, THIS
   STINKS!. not to mention the people now competing for lower paying
   jobs with them.

   either find me a SCIENTIFIC report that PROVES 2nd-hand smoke causes
   cancer - or STFU and stop whining like a crybaby about what stinks -
   because if you ask me, people who FORCE THEIR will upon others with no
   care for THEIR feelings or rights: stink...

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Re: Smoking bans at restaurants are more of a workplace health issue

[NavyBrat]

see? We can come to middle ground. I do get riled when someone like
Americanbuiltus gets nasty and attacks. My daughter smokes and as
someone who did it for 30 plus years, I do know what it feels like to
be put outside to smoke. But of course since I'm done with it, I don't
mind at all being able to go anywhere and not 'deal' with it. I do
draw the line at people being told what they can and can't do in their
own homes and cars. There are some cases where smokers living in a
townhome like residence ( that they owned) were sued by non- smokers
because the smoke was coming through the walls. In this case, it
should have been in writting when the person  who was buying the
townhome that no smoking would be allowed. If you own it, its your to
smoke in or not smoke in. Now before you say buisness owners sit in
the same potno, it's not the same. Restuarants and bars and such
have health officals checking lots of stuff out in their buisnesses.
When its for the public use...its different than private home
ownership.

On Mar 15, 8:48 am, Mark markmka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I agree with that.





 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:32 AM, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:

  I don't have a problem with that. The problem prior to the ban was
  'every' restuarant allowed smoking. If it were divided up and there
  where an equal number of licenses for smoking and non smoking
  establishments( I don't want to drive 12 miles to find a smokefree
  place) that would be an equatablesolution. But until that would
  happen...I'm enjoying the clean air.
  On Mar 15, 8:24 am, Mark markmka...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hey Darlin',

   How would you feel about establishments being able to declare themselves
   smoking or non-smoking ??

   Smokers don't enter non-smoking establishments and non-smokers don't
  enter
   smoking permitted establishments.

   Shouldn't everyone be able to be accommodated and have a choice as to
  where
   to go without government interference (again) in a legal pursuit ?

   I agree that malls, stores, and Government buildings should be smoke free
  as
   it is not possible to segregate in these places.

    On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:08 AM, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net
  wrote:

That's right...I don't care about you standing in the cold . I did it
for years and didn't bitch and moan about it. I never smoked in my own
home when my children lived there. Because any fool knows ciggerettes
aren't good for developing lungs. It's the law now and I don't feel
sorry for you needs what so ever. It's nice not smell your habit on me
when I  go out to have a nice meal or a few drinks.
Nah...you stfuI staid I was up front about my reasons for being
thrilled with the country going smokeless in public places. That you
don't like it makes no never mind to me. puff away bozo. Just do it
out side in the cold away from me and mine.

On Mar 14, 4:42 pm, AmericanBuilt.us i...@americanbuilt.us wrote:
 On Mar 14, 7:50 am, NavyBrat dotis2...@comcast.net wrote:

  Your freedoms don't out freedom mine. ;).

 i see how you are. your freedom to get what YOU WANT is more
  important
 than mine. maybe instead of me standing outside smoking in the
  cold...
 you should stop taking your children to eat in a BAR where people
 DRINK  SMOKE...

 you quit because you wanted to and had THE FREEDOM to...

 when women or blacks asked for the right to vote, did they demand
  that
 it be ILLEGAL for all white men to vote? why can't the OWNER of the
 bar HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DECIDE if they want to lose 80% of their
 business ($ to support their family AND the families of ALL their
 employees) to get a scumbag looser like yourself to stop WHINING
 about what stinks.

 ever think that maybe 200+ bar owners who LOST THEIR FAMILY BUSINESS
 and their 2000+ (now unemployed) employees, might be sitting in a
 house that is being foreclosed, with children whom they cannot afford
 to clothe or feed - are thinking to themselves right now, THIS
 STINKS!. not to mention the people now competing for lower paying
 jobs with them.

 either find me a SCIENTIFIC report that PROVES 2nd-hand smoke causes
 cancer - or STFU and stop whining like a crybaby about what stinks -
 because if you ask me, people who FORCE THEIR will upon others with
  no
 care for THEIR feelings or rights: stink...

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